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09-12-2009, 04:12 AM
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NM: Judge tell police to leave OCers alone
Nice article with link to the ruling.
Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for openly carrying guns Those police are in deep doo doo without their immunity. |
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09-12-2009, 06:37 AM
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Not only did he rule for the gun owner, it was a summary judgement.
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Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defence be the_real_object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands? Patrick Henry http://patrioticwisdom.net |
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09-12-2009, 10:07 AM
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Can this ruling apply in Milwaukee?
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09-12-2009, 11:07 AM
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Examples need to be made of the cops in this case.
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09-12-2009, 11:31 AM
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09-12-2009, 12:12 PM
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this ruling is out of a District Court in the 10th District, but was not a decision out of the larger 10th Circuit Court of Appeals itself, but I don't see why it will not likely be quoted and used in rulings in other districts. I don't see why a ruling out of one district can't be mentioned, or used in cases in other districts...and hopefully it will.
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Here's the caselaw cited in the ruling: Quote:
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Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defence be the_real_object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands? Patrick Henry http://patrioticwisdom.net |
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09-12-2009, 12:15 PM
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it won't have to apply, but I don't see why the case cannot be used in pleadings in Wisconsin or anywhere else, but--there is so much pressure being placed on OC'ers in Wisconsin--Milwaukee in particular, but in other places--that Wisconsin is just ripe for a major civil rights case. The OC arrest of a man on his own property, on his own porch this past week for simply refusing to give his name to the police--is going to be a nice civil suit against the police.
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09-12-2009, 12:49 PM
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What about being left alone in Tennessee?
There have been plenty of OC Tennesseans on this board alone with stories just like Matthew St. John's. Quote:
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