BATFE ACKNOWLEDGES A NATIONWIDE DATABASE OF GUN OWNERS - Page 2

**FlyntG** · 11-06-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geek

Somehow I am really not surprised.

Where is my tin foil hat, I'm puttin that thing back on.

Anybody care to email me plans for a good tinfoil hat? maybe we should make these things out of something more sturdy.

**USMCJG** · 11-06-2009, 04:32 PM

I'm not surprised by this at all. We all already knew, or should have, that we have gun registration, or more accurately, gun owner registration. When a dealer goes out of business and turns over their 4473's to the BATFE, they sure aren't going to just destroy them. They will be logged in a database to be referenced by the government. Of course some of the guns that had 4473's filled out on them will have been sold to someone else, but the person who bought them will still be known to be a gun owner. Quite simply, Form 4473=delayed gun owner registration.

**kckndrgn** · 11-06-2009, 04:44 PM

So, if guns are purchased "illegally", then there were purchased w/o the NJ police permission (in NJ one must get "permission" from the PD to purchase a gun) then how would said gun be in the registry?

Hmm, just another way to track the law abiding citizens, dunno.

**crimsonaudio** · 11-06-2009, 04:47 PM

Wow, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I figured this was illegal, too.

Yeesh.

11-06-2009, 04:49 PM

Need to get the NRA in on this and file a federal lawsuit!

**jackdm3** · 11-06-2009, 04:54 PM

Seems like lots of private purchases are in order. I mean, if you have to choose from that or a dealer, why not. (Sorry vendors)

**SUNTZU** · 11-06-2009, 05:13 PM

The articles are from 2007. Nothing has been done by any gun rights groups since then?

**TNTitan** · 11-06-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNTZU

The articles are from 2007. Nothing has been done by any gun rights groups since then?

some have: BATFE and its Gun Registration

**strickj** · 11-06-2009, 05:23 PM

Is this really "national"?

From reading the article it sounds localized to NJ. Which was already antigun to begin with.

**SUNTZU** · 11-06-2009, 05:23 PM

I can see clearly now.....the rain has gone. Thanks TnTitan. I'd call you TT, but that would just rapidly degrade your nickname into something you might not like for every future TGO event.

11-06-2009, 04:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
USMCJG TGO Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 Where: Tri-Cities, TN Age: 36 Posts: 534	I'm not surprised by this at all. We all already knew, or should have, that we have gun registration, or more accurately, gun owner registration. When a dealer goes out of business and turns over their 4473's to the BATFE, they sure aren't going to just destroy them. They will be logged in a database to be referenced by the government. Of course some of the guns that had 4473's filled out on them will have been sold to someone else, but the person who bought them will still be known to be a gun owner. Quite simply, Form 4473=delayed gun owner registration. __________________ "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777.

11-06-2009, 04:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
kckndrgn TGO Member Joined: Mar 2007 Where: Memphis, TN Age: 36 Posts: 297	So, if guns are purchased "illegally", then there were purchased w/o the NJ police permission (in NJ one must get "permission" from the PD to purchase a gun) then how would said gun be in the registry? Hmm, just another way to track the law abiding citizens, dunno. __________________ Welcome to Tennessee, patron state of shootin' things

11-06-2009, 04:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
crimsonaudio Tony Scalia Joined: Apr 2008 Where: Shelby County Posts: 1,844	Wow, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I figured this was illegal, too. Yeesh. __________________ I'm your huckleberry

11-06-2009, 04:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
jackdm3 TGO Member Joined: Jul 2009 Where: Memphis, TN (Drain-hole of the state) Posts: 417	Seems like lots of private purchases are in order. I mean, if you have to choose from that or a dealer, why not. (Sorry vendors) __________________ "We'll teach them the ways of war, They won't come here any more." Heather Alexander, March of Cambreadth

11-06-2009, 05:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
SUNTZU Faugh a Ballagh Joined: Dec 2007 Where: at the old spot by the river Age: 32 Posts: 4,067 Blog Entries: 5	The articles are from 2007. Nothing has been done by any gun rights groups since then? __________________ "An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself... A murderer is less to fear." --Marcus Tullius Cicero REMEMBER FORT HOOD.

11-06-2009, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rem_700 Guest Posts: n/a	Need to get the NRA in on this and file a federal lawsuit!

11-06-2009, 05:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
strickj ...waiting Moderator Joined: Nov 2007 Where: chattanooga Age: 26 Posts: 5,966	Is this really "national"? From reading the article it sounds localized to NJ. Which was already antigun to begin with. __________________ "you appear intelligent, but when you open your mouth the effect is spoiled"--What Planet Are You From

11-06-2009, 05:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
SUNTZU Faugh a Ballagh Joined: Dec 2007 Where: at the old spot by the river Age: 32 Posts: 4,067 Blog Entries: 5	I can see clearly now.....the rain has gone. Thanks TnTitan. I'd call you TT, but that would just rapidly degrade your nickname into something you might not like for every future TGO event. __________________ "An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself... A murderer is less to fear." --Marcus Tullius Cicero REMEMBER FORT HOOD.

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