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Urse
02-02-2008, 08:42 PM
Ann Coulter prefers Hillary over McCain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc&feature=related

triggertime
02-03-2008, 12:34 AM
She's just stirring the pot in an attempt to get the GOP to
realize that even though McCain has the momentum, he
is not the best choice to represent the party and he really
should not get the nomination...

Engloid
02-03-2008, 01:02 AM
THe phrase "C U Next Tuesday" comes to mind.

enfield
02-03-2008, 01:15 AM
If it's McCain vs Hillary, then I probably won't vote for the first time in my life. I don't see the point in it.

Engloid
02-03-2008, 01:26 AM
If it's McCain vs Hillary, then I probably won't vote for the first time in my life. I don't see the point in it.
Even in a battle of "lesser of two evils," there is still a lesser. In this case, I think it would be McCain.

Beretta Racer
02-03-2008, 01:27 AM
If it's McCain vs Hillary, then I probably won't vote for the first time in my life. I don't see the point in it.

That would be your choice. Nothing personal, but a bad choice. Presidential elections are, for most voters, a lesser of evils. Not voting for who ever the Republican nominee is, is just giving a vote to Hillary or Obama. Personally I would vote for Saddam Hussein, before I would not cast a vote against Hillary or Obama.

dralarms
02-03-2008, 01:30 AM
That would be your choice. Nothing personal, but a bad choice. Presidential elections are, for most voters, a lesser of evils. Not voting for who ever the Republican nominee is, is just giving a vote to Hillary or Obama. Personally I would vote for Saddam Hussein, before I would not cast a vote against Hillary or Obama.


Ouch.

ACMM
02-03-2008, 02:15 AM
I don't normally agree with AC on anything, she's jsut a loud mouth IMO. However, looking at the records side by side it looks almost even. Then when you factor in the socialist crap that's had McCain's name on it, TEB does look to actually be the more conservative choice. Crazy.

I won't vote for either of them, a vote for the lesser evil is still a vote FOR evil.

slothful1
02-03-2008, 02:36 AM
If it's McCain vs Hillary, then I probably won't vote for the first time in my life. I don't see the point in it.


Vote third party as a protest vote. If you don't vote at all, that will be interpreted as apathy, when what you actually want to do is register disgust.

TNDixieGirl
02-03-2008, 03:20 AM
A third party vote, or not voting at all, is a vote FOR Hillary.

Mike.357
02-03-2008, 03:58 AM
or not voting at all


Interesting that republicans are threatening not to go vote. Usually poor voter turnout hurts the Dem's but it looks the other way this time.

McCain may well end up nominated but he will send the country down the tubes at a slower pace than Hillary or Obama can.

jackdog
02-03-2008, 04:38 AM
I Think McCain will get the nod for sure. I don't think he can beat the Demorats

waynesan
02-03-2008, 05:57 AM
My :2cents:;

While John McCain is probably my least favorite candidate on the Republican side, if it comes down to a race between him and Hilary/Obama, he will get my vote. I hope it doesn't come down to that - there is still a hope that something miraculous will occur between now and what seems as his inevitable nomination for the Republican Party.

With what seems a very likely possibility, if the next President is Hilary or Obama, they will be joined with a Democratic majority in the House and Senate and I shudder to think of what mischief that will bring. The most troubling aspect of this scenario is the very real possibility that several Supreme Court appointments are likely to be made along with all the federal court appointments that will surely be made and the rights of gun owners will be turned upside down. Can you imagine a Federal Judiciary stacked with clones of Ruth Bader Ginsburg? That is what we have to look forward to if they get their way.

Let me reiterate, I do not like John McCain. I applaud his service to his country as a fighter pilot and prisoner of war but that does not qualify one to be the President. He has made many bad decisions as far as I'm concerned. But I do think that if he were elected, the conservatives would be more likely to have some influence on him, moreso than on the alternative.

I can't help but think of the Presidential Election of 1992. Many conservatives were angry with Bush the Elder for his moderate political governance - especially following eight years under Mr. Right, Ronald Reagan.
Many conservatives abandoned Bush and voted for Ross Perot. Perot siphoned over 19 million votes away from Bush, and Clinton won the popular vote by just about 6 million votes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_1992

Ross Perot — like Bush a conservative Texas businessman, but unlike Bush playing to concerns about the budget deficit — siphoned crucial moderate and conservative votes from Bush. Perot, in gaining a higher percentage of the popular vote than any third-party presidential candidate in eighty years, allowed Clinton to win with the smallest plurality in the same time period

So as it stands now, I will hold my nose and pray for forgiveness for voting for the man. But I will not vote third party nor will I stay home and by so doing help Hilary/Obama to do what they plan to do with America.

molonlabetn
02-03-2008, 06:18 AM
Methinks that McCain has a better chance of beating Obama than Hillary... so I'm leaning towards the idea of voting Obama in the primary, and McCain in the general. Regardless of anything else... there is no way that evil woman should occupy any political office.

This would make for a great Axe Snake Peel Body Scrub commercial...

Beretta Racer
02-03-2008, 01:27 PM
Methinks that McCain has a better chance of beating Obama than Hillary... so I'm leaning towards the idea of voting Obama in the primary, and McCain in the general. Regardless of anything else... there is no way that evil woman should occupy any political office.

This would make for a great Axe Snake Peel Body Scrub commercial...

Actually I think McCain has a better chance against Hillary. Hillary brings out the anti-Clinton voters. Obama is newer and doesn't have the political baggage. Also, McCain is not viewed by many to be an ultra-conservative and more of a moderate. McCain is more likely to take some Dem votes away from those who detest Hillary. Hillary isn't likely to take many Republican votes.

strickj
02-03-2008, 02:59 PM
it it just me or was she speaking in an alien toung?i could not understand hardly anything she said!
but it could just be this nyquil i have been sipping on http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/thumbnail2/2185_coughing.gif
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/thumbnail2/2198_splitting_headache.gif

flyfishtn
02-03-2008, 04:48 PM
A third party vote, or not voting at all, is a vote FOR Hillary.

Actually, this is not true. If you vote for a third party, say Libertarian, and you are voting for what you believe in, then you are voting properly. What it does is move votes away from the primary two parties, it doesn't add weight in one direction or the other.

As others have said and I have said myself, we end up voting the lesser of two evils most of the time, I just hope to have a real choice.

TN.Frank
02-03-2008, 05:00 PM
I wish everyone would vote Libertarian for once just to shake up the "Two Party" system that we've gotten stuck into over the last 100 years or so. Maybe it'd send a wake up call to D.C. that we're just not going to take all of their B.S. any more and that we DO have options besides the Reps and Dems.

fury2neon
02-03-2008, 05:12 PM
Interesting that republicans are threatening not to go vote. Usually poor voter turnout hurts the Dem's but it looks the other way this time.

McCain may well end up nominated but he will send the country down the tubes at a slower pace than Hillary or Obama can.

That is a lie perpetuated by the media that does not match the evidence of the elections over the past 40 years. Reagan was elected with some the highest voter turnout to date as was W second term.

I wish everyone would vote Libertarian for once just to shake up the "Two Party" system that we've gotten stuck into over the last 100 years or so. Maybe it'd send a wake up call to D.C. that we're just not going to take all of their B.S. any more and that we DO have options besides the Reps and Dems.

Amen brother preach on! Now, if only the Libertarian's just had a candidate that believed in defending the country.

bang-flash
02-03-2008, 05:51 PM
ron paul should go independent so there would "hypothetically" be 4 candidates to choose from. assuming there is a libertarian on the ballot. i agree as stated above that the 2 party system has gone the wrong way in the country and neither side is able to understand the populace as a whole. not that you can please all the people all the time. but having more options for people to express themselves versus just the elephant or the donkey may encourage the people to take a more active participation in their govt and maybe, just maybe realize how messed up the 2 major parties have become.

NuTcAsE
02-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Clinton Health Plan May Mean Tapping Pay
By CHARLES BABINGTON (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
February 03, 2008 11:40 AM EST
WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.
The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."
Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."

TN.Frank
02-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Libertarians believe in allowing citizens to own firearms so by default WE can defend our country the way our founding fathers intended us to do. :koolaid:

fury2neon
02-03-2008, 06:00 PM
Libertarians believe in allowing citizens to own firearms so by default WE can defend our country the way our founding fathers intended us to do. :koolaid:

Except for keeping the fight over there rather than allowing it come over here.

http://www.lp.org/

All the Libertarian candidates want to pull all the troops back to the US. That does not mean just Iraq as they advertise but all troops from every where. And that would leave us at a very bad strategic disadvantage.

BTW - I am a Neal Boortz/Larry Elder Libertarian

flyfishtn
02-03-2008, 09:51 PM
Remember, the current Republican party was originally organized and intended to be like the Libertarian of today.

The Rabbi
02-04-2008, 02:27 AM
Theodore Roosevelt (whom everybody quotes and no one reads) and Richard Nixon probably did more to create the govt we have now than any Democrat.

On topic: Hillary is vindictive as hell. She hates guns, she hates the NRA and she will make our lives miserable. It would be easy to shut down every gun dealer in the country by zealous enforcement actions. This would not require legislation at all, just the right nods at ATF. And she is very capable of doing this.
I would caution all those waving the flag of Ron Paul or threatening to stay at home that voting against Hillary is an imperative this time.

Engloid
02-04-2008, 02:32 AM
On topic: Hillary is vindictive as hell. She hates guns, she hates the NRA and she will make our lives miserable. It would be easy to shut down every gun dealer in the country by zealous enforcement actions. This would not require legislation at all, just the right nods at ATF. And she is very capable of doing this.
I would caution all those waving the flag of Ron Paul or threatening to stay at home that voting against Hillary is an imperative this time.
Exactly how I feel. I think she'll do everything possible to give the scum of our country food, housing, and the ability to be part of the select few that own guns.

bkelm18
02-04-2008, 02:47 AM
I'm a firm believer in voting for who you want in office and am quite disgusted with the idea of voting the lesser of two evils. A vote for 3rd party is NOT a vote for Hillary, it's a vote for the candidate who you want to lead this country. That's all. You can play this lesser of two evil bullsh*t all you want and you can bring up that beaten to death Ross Perot crap all you want, I WILL vote third party and will NOT feel guilty about it no matter who gets elected. Period. I'm fully aware of the possible cost of having Hillary elected and what it might do to this country, but I will not play these stupid games. I am voting for who I want, not who I don't want. If this country wants to flush itself into the sewer, so be it, but you reap what you sew.

Engloid
02-04-2008, 03:01 AM
I'm a firm believer in voting for who you want in office and am quite disgusted with the idea of voting the lesser of two evils. A vote for 3rd party is NOT a vote for Hillary, it's a vote for the candidate who you want to lead this country. That's all. You can play this lesser of two evil bullsh*t all you want and you can bring up that beaten to death Ross Perot crap all you want, I WILL vote third party and will NOT feel guilty about it no matter who gets elected. Period. I'm fully aware of the possible cost of having Hillary elected and what it might do to this country, but I will not play these stupid games. I am voting for who I want, not who I don't want. If this country wants to flush itself into the sewer, so be it, but you reap what you sew.
You may think your philosophy is that of somebody that refuses to play a game and therefore wins... but may be doing what the politcians want you to do.

bkelm18
02-04-2008, 03:05 AM
You may think your philosophy is that of somebody that refuses to play a game and therefore wins... but may be doing what the politcians want you to do.

How can voting for someone who I want to be in office be doing what the politicians want me to do? I never said I was going to win, I know the person who I will vote for will not win the election and probably not even the primary, but I'll be doing what I know to be right. If the politicians want me to do what I feel to be right, then yes, you are 100% correct, I am playing their game. If you can show me where on the ballot it says "A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Hillary", then I'll agree with you that I'm just a dumb kid who got fooled by the system... But hey, that's me. I'm not going to get into a political argument about my obviously radical views on voting, so I'll just leave by saying you all can vote how you want, I certainly will.

Beretta Racer
02-04-2008, 03:23 AM
If you can show me where on the ballot it says "A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Hillary", then I'll agree with you that I'm just a dumb kid who got fooled by the system...

Yeah, I'm sure the ballot would say that....... Vote how ever you like. Just remember, it's also a numbers game. A lot of adding, some subtracting, but mostly dividing.

Engloid
02-04-2008, 03:25 AM
If the politicians want me to do what I feel to be right, then yes, you are 100% correct, I am playing their game.
Of course they want you to do what's right.. isn't that what they do most of the time? :D