SBR Question

**Capbyrd** · 09-06-2009, 09:46 AM

I'm on the cusp of finishing my first AR and a 10.5 inch barrel has become increasingly attractive to me. My question is, if I complete the requirements for an SBR, can I throw a longer barrel on it every once in a while if I wanted to?

**SureShot308** · 09-06-2009, 10:01 AM

Yes, because it is registered as an SBR you aren't required to have a short barrel on it. But if you have more than 1 AR and only 1 of them is SBR then you can only have 1 SBR upper in your possession.

**willis68** · 09-06-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SureShot308

Yes, because it is registered as an SBR you aren't required to have a short barrel on it. But if you have more than 1 AR and only 1 of them is SBR then you can only have 1 SBR upper in your possession.

You sure about that? I thought you could own multiple SBR uppers as long as you have one registered lower receiver?

**SureShot308** · 09-06-2009, 11:16 AM

I'm not 100% sure on that. I was told that it fell into the constructive intent category because you could possibly make multiple SBR's at a time with only 1 SBR registered lower.
I know that if you only have one lower and it is SBR then you can have as many uppers as you want to. I'll have to double check on that one.

**Capbyrd** · 09-08-2009, 02:43 PM

Ok great. So I can definitely throw a long barrel on a SBR registered lower. That's great news. Thanks guys.

**Gun Trust Lawyer, David G** · 10-16-2009, 11:57 PM

Actually the ATF requires that you remove the items from the NFA status if you put a longer barrel on it unless it is also a SBR. You might reference this article
ATF Form 1 (5320.1)for SBR/SBS with multiple barrel lengths - NFA Gun Trust Lawyer Blog

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Originally Posted by SureShot308

Yes, because it is registered as an SBR you aren't required to have a short barrel on it. But if you have more than 1 AR and only 1 of them is SBR then you can only have 1 SBR upper in your possession.

**moreland281** · 10-25-2009, 07:07 PM

So you can't have multiple uppers (SBR) for 1 SBR'ed Lower?
i have a 6933 on order and i'm looking at getting a SBR 9mm and 22lr upper for it as well......

Hummm..... Any ATF ruling on paper about this (for either way)

If Not I"ll write the Tech Branch and ask for an answer on paper and post it here (for anyone else to use as a reference if needed)

**Verbal Kint** · 10-25-2009, 07:15 PM

Easy solution... SBR items in one safe/location... regular firearms in the other. Do not mix and match the two "sets". Do not pass go. Do not collect $500.

Honestly, if people in your household have access to your weapons... the SBR needs to be locked away where only you have access to it, anyway. Unless there's a Trust involved, which is a whole different story in itself. So just lock the NFA items up, separately, and call it a day.

**bwhited** · 10-25-2009, 08:38 PM

Too lazy to look it up and find the letter but ATF says that you can place a non NFA barrel length or shorter NFA length as long as you keep the orginial config that is on the Form 4 or 1. They also say that they "appreciate" notification of the lengths that you attend to use...so you can send them a letter with your serial # and copy of your form telling them all the lengths you attend to use and you should be fine.

**Gun Trust Lawyer, David G** · 10-26-2009, 11:37 AM

You have to deal with both state and federal laws on this issue. While you can have multiple barrel lengths on an SBR under the NFA, you cannot use a non NFA barrel IE a full length as this would take the firearm outside the purview of the NFA and switching it back and forth would cause problems.

09-06-2009, 09:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Capbyrd TGO Member Joined: Aug 2009 Where: Memphis TN Age: 26 Posts: 119	SBR Question I'm on the cusp of finishing my first AR and a 10.5 inch barrel has become increasingly attractive to me. My question is, if I complete the requirements for an SBR, can I throw a longer barrel on it every once in a while if I wanted to? __________________ Byrd's Arsenal Mosin Nagant 91/30, Glenfield 778 12 guage, Ruger 10/22, CMMG AR-15, Hi-Point C9, Ruger Standard, SA XD9sc, Mossberg 500, Ruger 10/22 (1776-1976) Former Members of Byrd's Arsenal Ruger P89DC, SA XD45 Service, SA XD40 Service Bi-Tone

09-08-2009, 02:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Capbyrd TGO Member Joined: Aug 2009 Where: Memphis TN Age: 26 Posts: 119	Ok great. So I can definitely throw a long barrel on a SBR registered lower. That's great news. Thanks guys. __________________ Byrd's Arsenal Mosin Nagant 91/30, Glenfield 778 12 guage, Ruger 10/22, CMMG AR-15, Hi-Point C9, Ruger Standard, SA XD9sc, Mossberg 500, Ruger 10/22 (1776-1976) Former Members of Byrd's Arsenal Ruger P89DC, SA XD45 Service, SA XD40 Service Bi-Tone

10-25-2009, 07:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Verbal Kint TGO Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 Where: Paducah, KY Age: 31 Posts: 2,373	Easy solution... SBR items in one safe/location... regular firearms in the other. Do not mix and match the two "sets". Do not pass go. Do not collect $500. Honestly, if people in your household have access to your weapons... the SBR needs to be locked away where only you have access to it, anyway. Unless there's a Trust involved, which is a whole different story in itself. So just lock the NFA items up, separately, and call it a day. __________________ *:: United States Air Force :: 2W051* :: 2002-2008 :: [ GLOCK 23 .40S&W :: 3rd Gen :: Improved Anti-Glock-Butt Feature ]** "Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again." - Ronald Wilson Reagan, 40th President of the United States

10-26-2009, 11:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gun Trust Lawyer, David G TGO Freshman Joined: Jul 2009 Where: Jacksonville, FL Age: 44 Posts: 23	You have to deal with both state and federal laws on this issue. While you can have multiple barrel lengths on an SBR under the NFA, you cannot use a non NFA barrel IE a full length as this would take the firearm outside the purview of the NFA and switching it back and forth would cause problems. __________________ David Goldman, Attorney GunTrustLawyer.com NRA Life Member

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09-06-2009, 10:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
SureShot308 TGO Member Joined: Aug 2009 Where: Nashville, TN Age: 28 Posts: 213	Yes, because it is registered as an SBR you aren't required to have a short barrel on it. But if you have more than 1 AR and only 1 of them is SBR then you can only have 1 SBR upper in your possession.

09-06-2009, 11:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
SureShot308 TGO Member Joined: Aug 2009 Where: Nashville, TN Age: 28 Posts: 213	I'm not 100% sure on that. I was told that it fell into the constructive intent category because you could possibly make multiple SBR's at a time with only 1 SBR registered lower. I know that if you only have one lower and it is SBR then you can have as many uppers as you want to. I'll have to double check on that one.

10-25-2009, 07:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
moreland281 TGO Member Joined: Feb 2008 Where: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 106	So you can't have multiple uppers (SBR) for 1 SBR'ed Lower? i have a 6933 on order and i'm looking at getting a SBR 9mm and 22lr upper for it as well...... Hummm..... Any ATF ruling on paper about this (for either way) If Not I"ll write the Tech Branch and ask for an answer on paper and post it here (for anyone else to use as a reference if needed)

10-25-2009, 08:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
bwhited TGO Freshman Joined: Aug 2009 Where: Nashville, TN Posts: 39	Too lazy to look it up and find the letter but ATF says that you can place a non NFA barrel length or shorter NFA length as long as you keep the orginial config that is on the Form 4 or 1. They also say that they "appreciate" notification of the lengths that you attend to use...so you can send them a letter with your serial # and copy of your form telling them all the lengths you attend to use and you should be fine.