All the Mosin hype

I just picked up a 1967 "sneak" M39. I can't wait to see what this thing will do. I've heard that most of these "sneaks" will do sub MOA. Too bad I can't shoot that well!

As far as the buttpad thing goes. I turned my shoulder yellow twice shooting from the bench with mosins. After that, it is limbsaver all the way.

I have found that shooting from the bench that a butt pad does not really help all that much. The only way I can shoot it sitting down is to support it with my elbows or hold it totally up in the air with my arms. Off a rest it makes me cry.

I like the screwed on pad if for no other reason than it adds some more space from my eyes to the rear sights. And it really does not look goofy like a sleeve looks.

I think old age comes into play too when shooting the thing. I have sore shoulders just from being an old fart. When I was a young buck recoil was laughable.

forgot to ask, whats a "sneak"?

sub-moa and mosin nagant... two words I'd never thought to see in the same sentence....
Mike, you complain about your shoulder, I'll complain about my eyes. I can't even see a 1 inch target at a hundred yards anymore.

Originally Posted by Mark@Sea

sub-moa and mosin nagant... two words I'd never thought to see in the same sentence....
Mike, you complain about your shoulder, I'll complain about my eyes. I can't even see a 1 inch target at a hundred yards anymore.

Nice of you to weigh in Mark.

I complain about the shoulder, I figure the eyesight goes without saying. I can't see the bullseye at 100 yards. I just aim in the general direction and lob them in there. I figure if I can hit a sewer lid at that distance I did my part.

I do believe a big part of any accuracy with a Mosin Nagant is the ammo.
I have some that is pretty consistant and had some that is all over the place.

I am getting a bit of Russian ammo soon and I am curious as to how consistant that will be from round to round.

Originally Posted by Mike.357

forgot to ask, whats a "sneak"?

The best I can dig up is that the sneak rifles were made between 67 and 71 for the purpose of target shooting. They were made from selected new old stock parts from when the finns ceased producing rifles (1945?). They are reported to be accurate, because they were built and fitted from selected parts with accuracy in mind.

From what I've read, and this is hard to substantiate, but I've read it in multiple places FWIW that none of the Finnish m39s would be put into service if unless they shot 1.5" at 100m.

I've never seen one of these sneaks before. But the one that is on its way is unissued, so I can't wait to fire it.

Originally Posted by Mike.357

Nice of you to weigh in Mark.

I complain about the shoulder, I figure the eyesight goes without saying. I can't see the bullseye at 100 yards. I just aim in the general direction and lob them in there. I figure if I can hit a sewer lid at that distance I did my part.

I do believe a big part of any accuracy with a Mosin Nagant is the ammo.
I have some that is pretty consistant and had some that is all over the place.

I am getting a bit of Russian ammo soon and I am curious as to how consistant that will be from round to round.

I really like the bulgarian stuff. I've only had one bad bullet (wouldn't even come close to chambering), and a couple split necks in 500 rds.

I coughed up for some of the match SVD ammo but never found it to be worth the $$. Certainly no more accurate in the finn than the bulgarian. Maybe it is best suited to the SVD.

I've got 800rds of czech on the way, and I've been told that it is pretty good. By far the worst stuff I've shot is Barnaul zinc plated. Wolf wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it kept jamming the bolt.

From what I've heard, the russin mosins like light ball, and the finns like heavier bullets. Unfortunately, the heavier stuff is not as plentiful.

Mike, did you end up ordering the mojo peep sights?

sounds interesting mrnick. Post up a pic or two when you can.

Originally Posted by Mike.357

sounds interesting mrnick. Post up a pic or two when you can.

Here is a shot:


I'm actually hoping that the trigger will be better on this one than on my '44, but I am not getting my hopes up.

nice looking rifle alright. Very M38 ish haha.

Furniture is outstanding.