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Old 05-14-2009, 10:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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xd, your boy must be like hulk if he doesn't mind the recoil
 
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Off-hand, the felt recoil of mine is no big deal.

On the bench, she's a beast.

I do love shooting mine though! For $55, I couldn't pass her up. Its just like everything else I have...nothing special to anyone but me!

And that's ok!
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sorry, I skipped to the end here and only lightly read the other's posts, sorry if I am redundant, but this is kind of a boring thread with a lot of ignorance and empty arguments with poorly constructed syllogisms.

The Mosin came into being during the time of the development of the Gew98, and the US was still using those blasted Krags. Tactics of the time called for controlled shooting at distances of 300 to 900 metres.

Tada. The rifle fit the bill. And it did a good job. Just like many countries of the time, Russia continued to press forward the theory of controlled fire for another 60 years.

Reliable. Accurate and Effective.

Today it is an affordable piece of 19th century arms that supported itself admirably well into the 1st half of the 20th century.

Garand? Ya, great rifle... developed nearly 40 years after this old timer. Apples and Oranges.

Remember, when the Russians were fielding Mosins, we were fielding Krags... How great was the Krag? Read what Teddy R. had to say about them against the Mausers in Cuba...

It was a great rifle in its day and holds 60 years of history in it.

As for felt recoil, my first deer rifle when I was 12 was a Springfield '03... There is an entire generation now grown up on .223 and 7.62x39 that has no concept of "getting on a weapon" -- not to control the shot, but rather, to control the rifle and the shot. Show me an AR with a Muzzle brake and I'll show you the man/woman behind it fails to comprehend the art of marksmanship.
 
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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xd, your boy must be like hulk if he doesn't mind the recoil

I'll see if I can get a pic of him shooting it this weekend. Give it he is 12 but I gave him some of my old pants to wear yesterday. He is about 130lbs now, that is what I was when I got married at 21. He is also about as tall as I am & wears a 10 shoe.
 
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:43 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Remember their original action design was in 1891, millions were mass produced by Soviet block countries and some by Remington and Westinghouse to arm the average commie infantryman so they are a no frills duty rifle but they did their job. That being said back when my brother was a big hunter he took his limit of bucks with one shot for three years with a Mosin with no scope made by Remington between WW1 and WW2.
 
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I will have my 91/30, complete with bayonet attached, up at Norris tomorrow for the shoot. Primarily as a convenience. I can just sit there and poke holes in the target and change them out without firing a shot.
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Found this video. Not bad at all.


Sorry if the video doesn't play, it shows an error to me but type in Mosin Nagant accuracy search on YouTube.
 
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that's gotta be better than THIS guy....


 
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I have a Tula m91/30 and an Izzy m44. I like Mosin Nagants because they are affordable and milsurp ammo is both plentiful and inexpensive. IMHO you would be hard pressed to find a better value for your centerfire shooting dollar.
 
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Sorry, I skipped to the end here and only lightly read the other's posts, sorry if I am redundant, but this is kind of a boring thread with a lot of ignorance and empty arguments with poorly constructed syllogisms.

The Mosin came into being during the time of the development of the Gew98, and the US was still using those blasted Krags. Tactics of the time called for controlled shooting at distances of 300 to 900 metres.

Tada. The rifle fit the bill. And it did a good job. Just like many countries of the time, Russia continued to press forward the theory of controlled fire for another 60 years.

Reliable. Accurate and Effective.

Today it is an affordable piece of 19th century arms that supported itself admirably well into the 1st half of the 20th century.

Garand? Ya, great rifle... developed nearly 40 years after this old timer. Apples and Oranges.

Remember, when the Russians were fielding Mosins, we were fielding Krags... How great was the Krag? Read what Teddy R. had to say about them against the Mausers in Cuba...

It was a great rifle in its day and holds 60 years of history in it.

As for felt recoil, my first deer rifle when I was 12 was a Springfield '03... There is an entire generation now grown up on .223 and 7.62x39 that has no concept of "getting on a weapon" -- not to control the shot, but rather, to control the rifle and the shot. Show me an AR with a Muzzle brake and I'll show you the man/woman behind it fails to comprehend the art of marksmanship.
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