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			<title>Hand Gun Carry in Restraunts No Longer Legal</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:36:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Greetings all, 
  
I know this is addressed in the newsworthy forum but I wanted to get it into the carry forum so everyone would be aware. 
  
The...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Greetings all,<br />
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I know this is addressed in the newsworthy forum but I wanted to get it into the carry forum so everyone would be aware.<br />
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The law allowing carrying in restraunts serving booze was overturned today on the basis of abiguity.  Therefore, it is NOT legal to carry under current laws.<br />
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Here's a link to the discussion in the newsworth forum.<br />
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<a href="!30649!http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/newsworthy-reports/30649-judge-rules-guns-bars-law-unconstitutional.html" target="_blank">http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/ne...itutional.html</a></div>

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			<title>Minotaur MTAC VS. Cross Breed Super Tuck</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have been trying to decide which concealed carry holster to purchase.  Right now I conceal carry my Glock 22 Mexican style with no cartridge in the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have been trying to decide which concealed carry holster to purchase.  Right now I conceal carry my Glock 22 Mexican style with no cartridge in the chamber.  I have been looking at the Minotaur and the Cross Breed holsters.  I have tried on the Minotaur before and really liked it, but I've heard claims from Cross Breed that they are the most comfortable.  Has anybody tried them both out? If you have which one would you recommend? Thanks.</div>

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			<title>Day Trip and Back to Knoxville</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:42:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I live in the Nashville area and was given 4 tickets and parking pass to take my family to see the University of Tennessee play Vanderbilt. Since...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I live in the Nashville area and was given 4 tickets and parking pass to take my family to see the University of Tennessee play Vanderbilt. Since this trip is roughly 180 miles each direction I would ideally like to carry as I do everyday in case of car failure or whatever little surprises arise. However since I am driving straight up to knoxville parking on campus and driving back after the game is there anyway for me to carry legally up for the trip leave it my car during the game and drive back with my handgun? The way I read the law there is not since I will be bring on campus. Would love some guidance on this question.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Ruth's Chris in Knoxville...]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:06:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Does anyone know if they are posted? Legal or otherwise.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know if they are posted? Legal or otherwise.</div>

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			<title>Bringing the family to  Chattanooga</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:23:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am coming to Chattanooga from Atlanta tomorrow.  Going to the tourist attractions anything I need to know about carrying in TN or Chat (I have a GA...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am coming to Chattanooga from Atlanta tomorrow.  Going to the tourist attractions anything I need to know about carrying in TN or Chat (I have a GA permit) ?  Also what are the laws regarding long guns?  I like to roll with the AR in the trunk?  I am going to look through the TN laws but there is always things that are missed or confusing in these laws. <br />
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			<title>Trip to IN tomorow</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Well Ive got to drive for my job tomorow to go pick up a car in Indiana. Ive looked at a couple different sites and from what I can find I should be...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well Ive got to drive for my job tomorow to go pick up a car in Indiana. Ive looked at a couple different sites and from what I can find I should be fine to <acronym title="Concealed Carry">cc</acronym> from TN thru KY and in IN since I have a valid TN permit. I just want to make sure Im right and there isnt any different laws I need to know about before I head out in the morning. Any advice or knowledge is appreciated thx <br />
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			<title>AR Carry laws?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:46:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey guys. I may be moving to back to Arkansas and am looking for some good to the point info on AR carry/gun laws. I do have my TN HCP and know that...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys. I may be moving to back to Arkansas and am looking for some good to the point info on AR carry/gun laws. I do have my TN <acronym title="Handgun Carry Permit">HCP</acronym> and know that it's honored, but just curious as to what laws may be different.<br />
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So far I know this:<br />
- no church carry<br />
- no government buildings (State or Federal)<br />
- no sporting events<br />
- no  schools etc. <br />
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BTW - AR is for Arkansas not Armalite Rifle!;)</div>

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			<title>Just how much $$$$ already!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My wife and I finally went to the DMV to turn in our stuff and and pay for our "rights" and they tell us we need to get our fingerprints somewhere...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My wife and I finally went to the DMV to turn in our stuff and and pay for our &quot;rights&quot; and they tell us we need to get our fingerprints somewhere else. So I set that up on-line with that &quot;cojent id / TAPS&quot; webpage and is says it's going to cost $48 for each of us!!<br />
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Do we acually have to use this system? I know others who've been finger printed at local sheriff's offices or jails. We've already paid too much to back out now, and I don't want to risk losing what we've already paid for. But good-golly Ms. Molly I sure don't want to drop ANOTHER $100 if I can help it. Can I get fingerprinted somewhere else?<br />
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			<title>HCP wrong expiration date!!!!!!!!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:42:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey guys, this may not be the right place to post this question, if not I do appologize. 
  
My question is this, I came home from Iraq on midtour...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys, this may not be the right place to post this question, if not I do appologize.<br />
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My question is this, I came home from Iraq on midtour and got my carry permit. I went back to Iraq and 5 months later I came home and my permit was waiting for me at the house.  However, I noticed that the experiation date was wrong, it said it expires in 2005, when I just received it.<br />
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I am so very pissed right now, I know I need to call the dept of safety, I just dont know what or how long it will take to rectify the situation and if I can carry my handgun even though the permit says it expires in 2005.<br />
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Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated:eek::eek::eek:</div>

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			<title>Your Opinion</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:16:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey guys , got to go to FL. after thanksgiving with my brother to work on his mother-in-laws trailer before she comes down for the winter, he's...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys , got to go to FL. after thanksgiving with my brother to work on his mother-in-laws trailer before she comes down for the winter, he's picking me up, so taking his truck I'm trying to decide what to take, here's the list could take more than one  who knows. Mil-Spec 45 in Galco paddle holster,  G-19 in highnoon <acronym title="Inside The Waistband">iwb</acronym>,  Taurus Pt 745 in highnoon <acronym title="Inside The Waistband">iwb</acronym>,  &quot;bugs&quot; S&amp;W 442 pocket holster or ankle, Kel-Tec P11  pocket or ankle, &quot;deepcover&quot; Taurus Pt 22.  Maybe room for my &quot;Romy&quot;.  Trailer park is in a rough part of town now. I'm leaning toward, 45 and 442, hoping for room for the &quot;Romy&quot;, but the G-19 an P11 combo wood allow for only 1 kind of ammo, and use less space since the 9 is smaller, and that's my problem, the 9 is smaller!!!  What say ye?</div>

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			<title>Can I carry on Tennessee river/blueway?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:28:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey guys, 
 
Taking a float trip into the the Tennessee River Gorge this weekend, and I'm wanting to take my carry piece along.  I have a Tennessee...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys,<br />
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Taking a float trip into the the Tennessee River Gorge this weekend, and I'm wanting to take my carry piece along.  I have a Tennessee carry permit.  Does anyone know if there are any reasons I cannot carry while on the Tennessee River?  <br />
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I don't know why I would not be able to, but since it's a waterway I thought there might be something I was not aware of.  Any info you could provide would be helpful.  I tried searching the topic but could not turn up anything.<br />
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Thanks!</div>

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			<title>Not Your Typical Restaurant Posting</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:11:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My wife and I went to a restaurant in town this evening and I noticed this "posting" on the front door. The next door on the way in had a TN Firearms...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My wife and I went to a restaurant in town this evening and I noticed this &quot;posting&quot; on the front door. The next door on the way in had a TN Firearms Association sticker as well. I know I&quot;m from a smaller town, but I had never seen this sticker and thought it was a nice way to welcome us who <acronym title="Concealed Carry">CC</acronym>. They will continue to get my business.<br />
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			<title>Interesting approach to restaurants that post</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:49:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>The whole restaurant posting issue has turned out to be a non-issue for me, as none of the restaurants that I frequent on a regular basis have...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The whole restaurant posting issue has turned out to be a non-issue for me, as none of the restaurants that I frequent on a regular basis have posted. I think it's going to become even less of an issue over time as the public and the media move on to something else.<br />
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That said, this blogger has an interesting approach to dealing with restaurants that have posted:<br />
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<a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/11/03/on-establishments-that-post/" target="_blank">On Establishments That Post | Snowflakes in Hell</a><br />
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				<a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2009/10/activism.html" target="_blank"><font color="#ae0000">Kevin got a reply back from the establishment that prohibited carry in Arizona</font></a>, which basically revealed the proprietor isn’t the biggest fan of ordinary citizens carrying guns around. That’s making me wonder if there might be a technique that would be more effective for gun owners to try. I live six miles outside of a major city who’s culture and population are not too friendly to the idea either, but I’ve only ever into one place that’s got a sign. I think the reason establishments aren’t quick to post signs is twofold, one is that most of the guns walking around this area are out of sight, meaning businesses and proprietors aren’t really all that aware people are walking around with guns. Two is that they don’t want to risk the signal that their establishment is that kind of place. It’s to the latter that this idea is geared. Let me give you a hypothetical conversation or e-mail:<blockquote>You: I notice the no guns sign outside. What kind of place is this? Do I have to be worried this is the kind of establishment people want to bring guns to?<br />
Them: Oh no, it’s perfectly fine. There was a chance in state law, and we have to put that there to keep people with guns out.<br />
You: It makes me uncomfortable that you think you have to put a sign up like that. What does it say about the kind of place? They don’t have a sign up at &lt;pick your own competitor here&gt;, maybe that’s a safer place.<br />
</blockquote>Now they will likely try to explain it away, but they will wonder how many customers think the same thing and don’t say anything. Maybe I’m totally nuts here, but I’m suggesting that based on the fact that someone putting up a sign likely isn’t really likely to budge on the issue in terms of philosophy, unless a lot of gun owners complain. Probably not enough will to make a difference.<br />
But if you can make the manager fear that the no guns sign is making customers wonder if their business is kind of a rough place, or that the sign is reflecting poorly on their business, they might rethink it. Obviously that’s not a prescription for every circumstance, but I have to wonder if that could work on some proprietors who aren’t going to be persuaded by pro-gun arguments.
			
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			<title>Resturaunt prohibited concealed handgun signs...?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:58:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Are those still legal to have posted in resturaunts? The ones in red letters on white background that says "knowingly possessing a concealed handgun...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Are those still legal to have posted in resturaunts? The ones in red letters on white background that says &quot;knowingly possessing a concealed handgun where alcoholic beverages are served...blah, blah, blah... fines... imprisonment... under Tennessee code...<br />
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That resturaunt bill did pass already? Right?:rolleyes:<br />
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What I am asking is if a resturaunt still has those signs up (before the bill passed) are they still lawfully enforceable?</div>

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			<title>and the count down begins...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>well i finished my paper work and finger printed today, so will see how long the wait is. hopefully not to long.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>well i finished my paper work and finger printed today, so will see how long the wait is. hopefully not to long.</div>

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