http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/ Discussion of topics related to professionally lead firearms training. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:11:14 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/images/tgo/misc/rss.jpg http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/ http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30453-security-guard-training.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:06:28 GMT For those in the forum that work in the private security sector, what kind of additional training do you get to engage in beyond the 2 day... For those in the forum that work in the private security sector, what kind of additional training do you get to engage in beyond the 2 day state-sanctioned course? ]]> Tactics and Training logicprevails http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30453-security-guard-training.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30414-10-cis-handgun-class-11-15-09-a.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:42:43 GMT I would like to congratulation Todd and Dustin on giving a Excellent Handgun Class. These * are two very thorough and knowledgeable instructors *who... I would like to congratulation Todd and Dustin on giving a Excellent Handgun Class. These are two very thorough and knowledgeable instructors who take the time to ensure you learn about the issues as well as how to shoot better. I highly recommend this class to all persons wanting their Handgun Carry Permit; they make it fun, entertaining and educational. It also makes for a great refresher class (at half the Price) for people who have their Permit but could use some updating in the new laws and procedures. Besides it's FUN!

I can't wait to take the Advanced Conceal Carry Class as well as the Defensive Pistol Class.

Thanks Guys,
James ]]> Tactics and Training Javaguzzi http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30414-10-cis-handgun-class-11-15-09-a.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30159-opportunity-veterans-day-free-israeli-training-memphis.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:24 GMT I want to honor Veterans day tomorrow by offering a free training session for up to 6 people in the Memphis area. All you pay is Range Entry fee... I want to honor Veterans day tomorrow by offering a free training session for up to 6 people in the Memphis area. All you pay is Range Entry fee ($10).


The training will be tomorrow, the 11th (Veterans day) from 12 noon until 2:00pm and will be dynamic, interesting and all based on aggressive Israeli counter terror training methods.

This offer is a good one. If you are interested, please PM me today so I can reserve a spot for you.

The training will be at BullzEye Range (Security Acadamy and Supply) at
3463 Lamar Ave
Memphis, TN 38118-1611
(901) 542-3479

Come and GET SOME!

Ben ]]> Tactics and Training Ben http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/30159-opportunity-veterans-day-free-israeli-training-memphis.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29898-cis-glock-class-11-4-09-a.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:59:43 GMT CIS alumni were invited to attend a "stripping your baby to the bare essentials" class at no charge.8 of us accepted.
As usual Todd did the talking while Dustin wandered throughout the room pointing out individual details.2 of us found previously unsuspected cracked parts:in at least 1 case eliciting a "Never seen that before" comment from our factory certified armorer/instructors.
I have repeatedly praised CIS classes on this board:last night was no exception.The fact that Todd & Dustin would present this class at no cost to attendees speaks to their integrity & committment.The fact that they could teach thumb-fingered me to detail-strip a Glock & feel fairly comfortable doing so speaks to their skill as teachers. These guys are a class act that know their stuff,are able to communicate their knowledge & are willing to do so. I cannot recommend their classes strongly enough. ]]> Tactics and Training earthworm http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29898-cis-glock-class-11-4-09-a.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29847-tactical-response-fighting-pistol-oct-31-nov-1-aar.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:46:25 GMT This was a quick writeup I did specifically for GetOffTheX.com Forums, but I thought I'd share it with you guys. I REALLY got a lot out of it and it happen to be one of the best weekends I've had, EVER. I will add more details if anyone is interested. Thanks for reading!

I came across Tactical Response by a fluke. I had an opportunity to watch the Fighting
Pistol DVD about a year prior to this class, and I found myself asking why I
wasn't prepared to protect myself and my family. I figured it was time to act, and that's when
I found out Tactical Response was in Camden, Tennessee. I happen to be from Nashville, and at
that point I thought it was a door opening in my face that I'd be stupid not to enter. I have
had no shooting experience other than a few shots here and there with years in between them. I
have never owned a gun, and never had anyone to teach me about hunting, self protection,
fighting, or target shooting. I am thankful that I am building a solid foundation consisting
of a wise mindset, tactics that work, skills (to be added to my toolbox), and gear that does
not malfunction.

There were 12 of us, and it was a real Oregon Trail-mix of people. A surgeon, a computer
guy/EMT, contractors, a principle/cover model, a Marine, and more of course that I'm leaving
out not that I don't love them all. I saw names on guns like H&K (cough), Sig, Kimber, S&W,
Glocks - My 19, the one alumnus's 19, a 22 and 23 (i think) a 17L (this cat was shooting the same
hole in his target all damn day).

As soon as I got to the gear shop on day 1, I had some XS Big Dots put on my Glock 19
(thank you very much Allen), I figured I didn't hardly have any experience shooting with stock
sights I may as well switch now, and I'm very glad I did. I'll never go back either because my
sight picture is acquired much faster now.

The classroom lectures were really a treat. I have been in school my entire life sans a
few infant years (I'm 22), and I know a good teacher when I see one, and there happened to be
a few at Tactical Response. Jay and Brian kicked us off in class on Halloween morning Oct. 31,
2009. The lectures were brilliant even though I have seen Fighting Pistol DVD more than a
couple times. There's nothing like being in the class yourself, asking questions yourself, and
taking notes and letting the information sink in. There is a LOT of information given, and it
would have been completely foreign to me without the Fighting Pistol DVD. Then again without
the DVD, there would be no class for me. Redundancy is the only way I can see this stuff being
imprinted in your head for quick recall emergency use. Buy the DVD, then take the class. I
simply lucked out on this order of operations. James finished us up in class on Day 2 in class
for 3 hours before range time. I learn more every time I listen to the guy. Redundancy is the
key to learning this stuff, and is the key to memory recall under stress. I got most out of
the mindset lectures.

After class it was off to the range. I have been waiting on a Raven Concealment holster
and mag pouch for about 5 weeks, and of course it didn't come in time for Fighting Pistol, but
that was no problem. I just got my ass to Camden and the rest was really smooth as can be. I
borrowed a Blade Tech OWB. I didn't tell anyone, but that was the first holster I'd ever put
on. When I practiced my draw stroke that I learned from the DVD it was always with an "Air
Holster", and I'm telling on myself now so that you dip****s out there will stop thinking you
have to get to a certain point in your gear knowledge or "get better" before you go to
Tactical Response. I'm not saying show up without half the gear list because you can't afford
it, but I'm also not saying put off the class for a year or two because you need that one last
piece of gear. Build your house on the rock, not the sand.

The instructors really showed their talent for teaching on the range. Safety was put
first; it was well explained in class and translated well to the range. New shooters are going
to do unsafe things myself included. Tim, Jay, and Brian were all on their "A-game" spotting
the screw ups, and they really kept their cool even in the most opportune times to chew the
hell out of somebody. I got excellent feedback from all three of them, in all the drills we
did. You will do things at Tactical Response that are not available at other places. I can't
tell you how privileged I feel to have started at this point rather than have to fix years and
years of screwing up fundamentals of shooting and fighting. A perp is not stuck behind the
rules of a range master when he whips out a gun on you; why should I be constrained in my
training!? Things that I really improved on were grip, sight picture, drawing, and I'd say the
thing I may hold on to the most out of the practical portion of Fighting Pistol is getting off
the damn X. It is MORE important to MOVE than to MAKE SHOTS if there's a choice between the
two because when you stop, you're dead. It makes perfect sense when you analyze it; dead is
bad, alive is good.

Some of my favorite time spent was just hanging out chatting. I stayed in the Team Room,
and it was like home. I can't thank James Yeager enough for letting us stay in his house. I
don't know if I'd be an alumni if that wasn't a part of the training experience. Staying in
the team room is something I look forward to doing again and again... truly a life-changing experience. ]]> Tactics and Training iamtwon http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29847-tactical-response-fighting-pistol-oct-31-nov-1-aar.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29808-does-such-training-exist.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:26:36 GMT I am new shooter been through HCP and NRA basic handgun course but wanting to take my training to next level. Seen lots of comment check out this... I am new shooter been through HCP and NRA basic handgun course but wanting to take my training to next level. Seen lots of comment check out this class or this seminar so here is my question. In other sports I usual reach a level where most effective use of time and money is one on one training. A qualified individual giving tips on ways to better improve my performance. Private lessons if playing golf. In a gym situation called a personal trainer. Would like it to be on going situation meeting twice or once a month for an hour or something similar, so traveling here or there wouldn't really work. Need something within say an hour distance to my location. So does this training exist ? If so whom you recommend or not recommend? ]]> Tactics and Training Harold http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29808-does-such-training-exist.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29777-wear-vest.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:21:17 GMT Or don't stand too close to the steel target you are shooting....

I was out shooting my steel targets I made a few months ago. I was about 25 yards away when I shot and a piece of the round ricocheted back, hitting me in the side.

Unfortunately I neglected to put on my vest when I went out back to shoot. I figured I was only going to shoot one mag and I didn't need to bother this time. Luckily it didn't penetrate any deeper than it did.

A minor injury that placed a few inches to the right could have been serious.





Wear a vest or move back when shooting steel.

Rifle caliber was .308 ]]> Tactics and Training Mike http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29777-wear-vest.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29571-free-training-session-introduction-israeli-combat-training.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:16:26 GMT Hi, I wanted to extend a free training session for a small group of folks in the Memphis area. I am doing this because I would like to introduce... Hi,
I wanted to extend a free training session for a small group of folks in the Memphis area. I am doing this because I would like to introduce people to my training and the Israeli counter terror techniques I teach and live by.

Please PM me if you are interested. There are no strings attached. The only cost to you will be range fee ($10) and ammunition.

If I have enough people interested, I will do this several times.

I hope that some of those that attend will find that they would like to continue to train with me after this session but again, no strings attached.

If you are looking to gain a different and aggressive perspective on how to defend your life against violent attack, please feel free to let me know and I will reserve a spot for you.

I currently train individuals and groups (civilians and Law Enforcement) during the week and on Sundays so my time is at a premium but this is something that I have wanted to do for a while for the people on this forum.

my website is : www.IsraeliCombatTraining.com

My Training is for any gender and just about any age. All I ask is that you come with a positive mental attitude, an open mind to learn new technique and a safe approach to firearms.

Again, if you are interested or have questions, please PM me.

Thank you,
Ben ]]> Tactics and Training Ben http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29571-free-training-session-introduction-israeli-combat-training.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29378-safetysouth-general-defensive-shotgun-class-review.html Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:13:48 GMT Took the Safety South Defensive Shotgun Saturday and let me say this is a great class and Bo is a great teacher and very thorough in his teaching... Took the Safety South Defensive Shotgun Saturday and let me say this is a great class and Bo is a great teacher and very thorough in his teaching process.

The class starts with a classroom session discussing safety, shotgun types, ammunition types, storage, combat loading, unloading and ready condition, “cruiser” ready. After the classroom session we transitioned to the range to start the live fire portion of the class. He encourages everyone to seek different manufacturers of ammunition for the class as the variation of patterns can vary greatly.

Live fire started with patterning using birdshot at different yardages and combat reloading and tube loading to help keep your gun topped off. We shot both positive and negative targets which helps with accuracy and understanding how much your shot spreads at different distances.

We next transitioned to steel targets and remained on birdshot and focused on dealing with threats and different loading (combat loading, combat loading and tube loading). We performed combat reloading until the threat is dealt with and shooting from “cruiser” ready and dealing with threats.

Next we moved to buckshot patterning on different manufacturers ammo at different yardages. This is a very eye opening process if you have never done this and it is also interesting to see the difference even between gun manufacturers. Bo is very thorough in getting everyone to review other class members shot patterning and discuss effectiveness of the pattern in a defensive situation.

As we continued with buckshot we wrapped up that portion shooting a qualification round at different yardages and we used the honor system to score (you had to score 90%).

Finally we moved to shooting slugs. Again, we shot the qualification course which consisted of combat reloads at different yardages. Again, we scored on the honor system (you had to score 100%).

We wrapped up the day with a little fun. Bo set up dry wall in different configurations (dry wall, dry wall and ply wood, aluminum skinned door) and we got to shoot through them with the three different types of ammunition. Interesting to see the different types of penetration and then transfer that to your house and how you could impact your family or neighbors depending on where you live.

Overall a very good class and a more knowledge to use as I continue down my training path. Shotgun classes are hard to come by in the area and I would highly recommend taking Bo’s class if you get the chance. ]]> Tactics and Training flyfishtn http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29378-safetysouth-general-defensive-shotgun-class-review.html http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29136-church-security.html Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:47:20 GMT Does anyone know of a trainer or group in Tennessee who has worked with churches on security arrangements? Something along the lines of verbally... Does anyone know of a trainer or group in Tennessee who has worked with churches on security arrangements? Something along the lines of verbally solving the problem and if that doesn't work move on to Mace or a Stun Gun.

99% of event will not require a firearm but we have a few people with or in the process of getting their carry permit. But those still need training in when to use it. ]]> Tactics and Training Spiffy http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/29136-church-security.html