LIGHTS FOR CCW AND LAW ENFORCEMENT - Page 2

**Verbal Kint** · 10-28-2007, 10:46 AM

Awesome, posts! Thanks for taking the time to post all of that, and link the photos.

**clutepc** · 10-28-2007, 11:01 AM

I have to agree!!!
I never though about lights that much but I can see the results of what works and what doesn't.
Not only do I now see the importance but I'm going shopping this week!
Thank You for taking the time to post it!!

**canynracer** · 10-28-2007, 03:48 PM

nice job!! great post...now I need to go buy a light!!! I swear you guy are gonna get me divorced!!

**clutepc** · 10-28-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canynracer

nice job!! great post...now I need to go buy a light!!! I swear you guy are gonna get me divorced!!

LOL gun=$$$

I know the feeling

**jcoyle6** · 10-28-2007, 11:28 PM

Great info! Thanks for sharing

**bteague2** · 10-28-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canynracer

nice job!! great post...now I need to go buy a light!!! I swear you guy are gonna get me divorced!!

It's not the light that'll get you divorced, it's those 123A batteries

**Marswolf** · 10-29-2007, 05:51 AM

I don't think it is clear (maybe even mentioned) in Watchmaker's posts, but he is the manufacturer/supplier of the Borealis light and battery system.

I've really enjoyed his posts over time. While he is a merchant, his emphasis is always on real-world demonstrations of lights. You won't see that from other manufacturers. I'm very happy to see him here.

**watchmaker** · 10-29-2007, 10:22 AM

Thank you Marswolf for your appreciation of my posts.
I am not really a merchant, more like a craftsman, as my Borealis lights are largely made by my own two hands (not assembled line involved) each require several hours to built and although I am a retired watchmaker, my time at the bench is limited by my wishes to spend more of the time of my last years, in hunting and fishing, than in working.

As I own close to two hundred lights (between flashlights and tactical) my pet project is to do those beam shots, so the members can compare the different lights that are in the market.

So, more reviews of different lights will be coming along periodically, I recently have extended my attention to head lights for hunting, when dressing a deer recently, I appreciate the flood of a good LED light and the fact that as it was a headlight, my hands were free to work on the deer.

All the best
Watchmaker
a.k.a.
Black Bear

**Marswolf** · 10-29-2007, 10:33 AM

I have one of those head lights. Rayovac.

Three position switch. First position turns on two red LEDs for night vision stuff. Second position is a white LED and the third position is a mini-mag type bulb in a somewhat focusable reflector.

Just a cheapie, but it works.

**watchmaker** · 10-29-2007, 06:31 PM

Marswolf,
I don't know if your light is similar to the one I have been using in the past two weeks, mine is called RayOvac Sportsman Xtreme, and is all LED, the first is a red light with good throw (ideal to walk to the tree stand without polluting the woods with light) second bulb is a blue light and the third is a Luxeon III (good thrower) with a movable flood lens on top of the head.

It is a good light, and here is my small review of it.

SPORTMAN XTREME HEADLAMP LED

BY RAYOVAC

I also got this headlight at Wal-Mart. The light is really small and lightweight, it works with one AA battery that drives a one-watt Luxeon with considerable brightness.

It also has two red lights and a blue light (probably Nichias 5 mm) that are set up at a side of the main reflector, and the main reflector has a filter to diffuse the light and make quite a big flood. This feature permits this headlamp to be a thrower of considerable brightness and a flood light to do close-up chores while camping or even reading a book in bed.

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Very versatile, the red light is a good feature for those that are considerate and will not shine a light in the face of others campers, and will preserve your night vision. Unlike others that I have seen before, this red light is good enough for walking.

The Nichia LED with the blue tint is billed as a tracking light. Good luck if you try to use the blue light for that purpose only: the main beam without the diffusing filter (that just moves to one side) is much better for tracking, as the white light will show the blood as a natural red color, while the blue light shows it in black.

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This light will appeal to the most ultra lightweight backpacker; it is really small and light in weight. The run time is given at two hours, while the lumen output is given at 45.

I am very impressed with the ample flood given by the diffusing filter at close range. It so happened that I was showing my car’s battery terminals to my brother-in-law that is a mechanic, and the little light was giving out plenty of illumination. I have found my new light for changing tires and looking under the hood, as well as hiking some trails.

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I decided to make a new distance standard for head lights and I fixed it at 16 yards. Some make it that far and some don’t; I believe that if a head lamp can’t make 16 yards it is not worth having. This light makes a good throw to the 16 yards where my deer target was, as you can see in the picture of the beam shot.

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I consider the price I paid for this light a bargain ($18.83) and it is available at Wal-Mart and I imagine in many other places. It uses easily available AA batteries and is almost unnoticeable in weight and bulk. I highly recommend it as an alternative to more expensive lights, and although the two hour runtime will not seem to be enough for serious hikers that spend several days in treks, I think it is okay for a day hike.

Best wishes,
Watchmaker

10-28-2007, 11:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
clutepc TGO Senior Member Joined: Oct 2007 Where: Nashville, TN Age: 44 Posts: 582 Blog Entries: 3	I have to agree!!! I never though about lights that much but I can see the results of what works and what doesn't. Not only do I now see the importance but I'm going shopping this week! Thank You for taking the time to post it!! __________________ M&P 40 Compact S&W 642 >>>-------->

10-28-2007, 11:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
jcoyle6 TGO Member Joined: Jan 2007 Where: Franklin, TN Posts: 236	Great info! Thanks for sharing __________________ Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice!

10-29-2007, 05:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
Marswolf TGO Senior Member Joined: Jan 2007 Where: Tri-Cities Age: 60 Posts: 5,895	I don't think it is clear (maybe even mentioned) in Watchmaker's posts, but he is the manufacturer/supplier of the Borealis light and battery system. I've really enjoyed his posts over time. While he is a merchant, his emphasis is always on real-world demonstrations of lights. You won't see that from other manufacturers. I'm very happy to see him here. __________________ "Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions” —G.K. Chesterton "Duty is the sublimest word in the language. You cannot do more than your duty; you never wish to do less." - Robert E. Lee Mediocrity cherishes rules; as for me, I hate them; I feel for them and for every restriction, corporation, caste, hierarchy, level, herd, a loathing which fills my soul.... -Gustave Flaubert

10-29-2007, 10:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
Marswolf TGO Senior Member Joined: Jan 2007 Where: Tri-Cities Age: 60 Posts: 5,895	I have one of those head lights. Rayovac. Three position switch. First position turns on two red LEDs for night vision stuff. Second position is a white LED and the third position is a mini-mag type bulb in a somewhat focusable reflector. Just a cheapie, but it works. __________________ "Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions” —G.K. Chesterton "Duty is the sublimest word in the language. You cannot do more than your duty; you never wish to do less." - Robert E. Lee Mediocrity cherishes rules; as for me, I hate them; I feel for them and for every restriction, corporation, caste, hierarchy, level, herd, a loathing which fills my soul.... -Gustave Flaubert

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10-28-2007, 10:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Verbal Kint TGO Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 Where: Paducah, KY Age: 31 Posts: 2,373	Awesome, posts! Thanks for taking the time to post all of that, and link the photos.

10-29-2007, 10:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
watchmaker TGO Member Joined: Oct 2007 Where: Long island, N. Y. Posts: 52	Thank you Marswolf for your appreciation of my posts. I am not really a merchant, more like a craftsman, as my Borealis lights are largely made by my own two hands (not assembled line involved) each require several hours to built and although I am a retired watchmaker, my time at the bench is limited by my wishes to spend more of the time of my last years, in hunting and fishing, than in working. As I own close to two hundred lights (between flashlights and tactical) my pet project is to do those beam shots, so the members can compare the different lights that are in the market. So, more reviews of different lights will be coming along periodically, I recently have extended my attention to head lights for hunting, when dressing a deer recently, I appreciate the flood of a good LED light and the fact that as it was a headlight, my hands were free to work on the deer. All the best Watchmaker a.k.a. Black Bear

10-29-2007, 06:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
watchmaker TGO Member Joined: Oct 2007 Where: Long island, N. Y. Posts: 52	Marswolf, I don't know if your light is similar to the one I have been using in the past two weeks, mine is called RayOvac Sportsman Xtreme, and is all LED, the first is a red light with good throw (ideal to walk to the tree stand without polluting the woods with light) second bulb is a blue light and the third is a Luxeon III (good thrower) with a movable flood lens on top of the head. It is a good light, and here is my small review of it. SPORTMAN XTREME HEADLAMP LED BY RAYOVAC I also got this headlight at Wal-Mart. The light is really small and lightweight, it works with one AA battery that drives a one-watt Luxeon with considerable brightness. It also has two red lights and a blue light (probably Nichias 5 mm) that are set up at a side of the main reflector, and the main reflector has a filter to diffuse the light and make quite a big flood. This feature permits this headlamp to be a thrower of considerable brightness and a flood light to do close-up chores while camping or even reading a book in bed. [/font] Very versatile, the red light is a good feature for those that are considerate and will not shine a light in the face of others campers, and will preserve your night vision. Unlike others that I have seen before, this red light is good enough for walking. The Nichia LED with the blue tint is billed as a tracking light. Good luck if you try to use the blue light for that purpose only: the main beam without the diffusing filter (that just moves to one side) is much better for tracking, as the white light will show the blood as a natural red color, while the blue light shows it in black. [/font] This light will appeal to the most ultra lightweight backpacker; it is really small and light in weight. The run time is given at two hours, while the lumen output is given at 45. I am very impressed with the ample flood given by the diffusing filter at close range. It so happened that I was showing my car’s battery terminals to my brother-in-law that is a mechanic, and the little light was giving out plenty of illumination. I have found my new light for changing tires and looking under the hood, as well as hiking some trails. [/font] I decided to make a new distance standard for head lights and I fixed it at 16 yards. Some make it that far and some don’t; I believe that if a head lamp can’t make 16 yards it is not worth having. This light makes a good throw to the 16 yards where my deer target was, as you can see in the picture of the beam shot. [/font] I consider the price I paid for this light a bargain ($18.83) and it is available at Wal-Mart and I imagine in many other places. It uses easily available AA batteries and is almost unnoticeable in weight and bulk. I highly recommend it as an alternative to more expensive lights, and although the two hour runtime will not seem to be enough for serious hikers that spend several days in treks, I think it is okay for a day hike. Best wishes, Watchmaker