need pics of proper no carry sign's

OK all of the buzz is about proper sign's being posted correctly, does anyone have pics or connections to pics that show proper wording, colors and or where they have to be placed at entrances. I would also like how much power the place of buisness has if sign's are not by the rule.

Thanks for any info, Rando

I think pics have been posted here before...but I haven't tried a search yet.

As far as wording goes...the law says the wording has to be "substainly simillar" to what is in 39-17-1359. To my knowledge there is not a legal definition or a court ruling on what substainly simillar is. IMO it needs to contain: Who is posting the property, what part(s) of the property are off-limits, refrence 39-17-1359 and mention the $500 fine.

As far as color goes...there is no required coloring of the background or lettering.

As far as where they are placed...the law says at "all entrances primarly used by the public" and that it should be "plainly visable" to the average person entering.

A place of business can tell you to leave the property if you armed, even if they do not have a posted sign, let alone an improper posting. If you do not leave then you are trespassing.

The sign below isn't the only possible rendition, but this one does include all of the parts and text listed in the TCA. I generated this sign for my MD ( He is not anti gun but does deal with patients that don't need to be near a gun!) He wanted to be legal and proper in how he went about it, so I made this one on the computer for him. I get peeved when owners who want to post say they can't "afford " the right signs. This was done on a home PC in about 5 minutes!

When I was managing an armored car company I did the same thing in MS Word in about 3 minutes without the slashed pistol. I even listed excpetions of employees and LEO with official buisness. I made it the bigges type that would all fit on one page and printed it out and taped it to the inside of the glass on the door.

I laminated two of the signs and a copy of the TCA paragraph for the Doc to keep in his office. You can also buy card stock dirt cheap in Walmart and make very professional signs. I hate the darn things but if they are going to do it, do it right and legal. To me the current law is fair. It allows me to carry and allows the proprietor the right of property.The main thing is, if they are going to post let us know right up front legally and we can all avoid embarassment. It also let's me know that I may want to go somewhere else. Not one of the signs I have seen on TV have been in the right format.

Originally Posted by wjh2657

I laminated two of the signs and a copy of the TCA paragraph for the Doc to keep in his office. You can also buy card stock dirt cheap in Walmart and make very professional signs. I hate the darn things but if they are going to do it, do it right and legal. To me the current law is fair. It allows me to carry and allows the proprietor the right of property.The main thing is, if they are going to post let us know right up front legally and we can all avoid embarassment. It also let's me know that I may want to go somewhere else. Not one of the signs I have seen on TV have been in the right format.

The only signs I have seen in the whole state that have been correct were the ones on govt buildings in downtown Nashville. My wife works for HCA and all of thier hospitals are posted wrong.

Originally Posted by redbarron06

The only signs I have seen in the whole state that have been correct were the ones on govt buildings in downtown Nashville. My wife works for HCA and all of thier hospitals are posted wrong.

Makes you wonder, do they even really mean what they are supoesedly trying to say or are the just trying to appease someone while not actually pissing others off?

Originally Posted by DavidD

Makes you wonder, do they even really mean what they are supoesedly trying to say or are the just trying to appease someone while not actually pissing others off?

Honestly, with all the misinformation out there about the law, and gun related laws in particular, I seriously doubt that the majority of improperly posted businesses have incorrectly posted intentionally. I'd bet most just don't know any better.

Originally Posted by 56FordGuy

Honestly, with all the misinformation out there about the law, and gun related laws in particular, I seriously doubt that the majority of improperly posted businesses have incorrectly posted intentionally. I'd bet most just don't know any better.

I suppose. Wishful thinking on my part

Originally Posted by DavidD

Makes you wonder, do they even really mean what they are supoesedly trying to say or are the just trying to appease someone while not actually pissing others off?

I am afraid that somebody's lawyer will have to find out in civil court. They'll win, but there will be a big attorney fee attached! I am for everybody being able to exercise their rights. I just want them to do it legally! I didn't just throw a gun in my pocket. I took the classes and went through the licensing program to be able to carry. The posters can take the time to read the law and then post correctly. They need to take responsibility for their decision and live with the possibility of consequences (if any actually do occur.) If they don't want my business, then post. Don't blame the government for it! On the other hand I can understand the logic (I may not agree with it wholeheartedly) that certain types of establishments and institutions may feel that the need for public safety requires them to post and I may still go there. That is my choice and the law allows us both a choice.