What to carry when I can't carry? - Page 3

**Kegger** · 10-13-2009, 11:38 AM

I know a couple people at UTC that carry anyway. Not necessarily the smartest idea though.

I'm a big fan of a knife, monkey's fist, and a very bright flashlight. Blind 'em, then hit 'em.
And I second the ASP cert, cause it's better than nothing in a gun fight.

**canynracer** · 10-13-2009, 11:48 AM

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**RugerFan7** · 10-13-2009, 02:56 PM

I am stuck in the same hole. I go to MTSU and I feel like it is the main place I need to carry but I can't. Right now I just carry a large pocket knife. Tazers you only have one shot, so I don't think they are worth the money.

**steve m** · 10-24-2009, 02:36 PM

Does anyone know what the Tn laws are on carrying batons concealed? What about

saps/blackjacks?

**Fallguy** · 10-24-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by steve m

Does anyone know what the Tn laws are on carrying batons concealed? What about

saps/blackjacks?

Illegal.

Quote:

39-17-1307 Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon

(a)(1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm, a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4"), or a club.

It is a defense if you have certificate showing your trained in the use of the baton.

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39-17-1308 Defenses to unlawful possession or carrying of a weapon.

(a) It is a defense to the application of § 39-17-1307 if the possession or carrying was:

(9) By any person possessing a club or baton who holds a certificate that the person has had training in the use of a club or baton for self-defense that is valid and issued by a certified person authorized to give training in the use of clubs or batons, and is not prohibited from purchasing a firearm under any local, state or federal laws

**Hi Point** · 10-25-2009, 04:19 PM

39-17-1309. Carrying weapons on school property. —

(a) As used in this section, “weapon of like kind” includes razors and razor blades, except those used solely for personal shaving, and any sharp pointed or edged instrument, except unaltered nail files and clips and tools used solely for preparation of food, instruction and maintenance.

(b) (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, with the intent to go armed, any firearm, explosive, explosive weapon, bowie knife, hawk bill knife, ice pick, dagger, slingshot, leaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, knuckles or any other weapon of like kind, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution.

(2) A violation of this subsection (b) is a Class E felony.

(c) (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. It is not an offense under this subsection (c) for a nonstudent adult to possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property.

Michie's Legal Resources

Handgun Carry Permit T.C.A. Codes

I am with you. UTC is not safe. They like to keep things hush hush by just quietly sending us a scrappy email about someone getting robbed at gunpoint or shots being fired in a dorm.

**Rebtl** · 10-25-2009, 05:02 PM

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I am with you. UTC is not safe. They like to keep things hush hush by just quietly sending us a scrappy email about someone getting robbed at gunpoint or shots being fired in a dorm.

Do they ever! Too bad the community or at least the school paper never says a word about it that I have seen. (aside from campus crime log lol)

**razorback2003** · 10-25-2009, 10:33 PM

Get some of that good Kimber Pepper Blaster or Fox Labs to put distance between you and an attacker...you don't want to get into a knife fight with someone because you have to get too close to actually use a knife in self defense. I look at a knife as more of a tool than self defense item....you want something that you can have distance...point...incapacitate...and get away fast...and the good pepper blaster and fox labs does it....knife gets you way too close to the attacker and folks often don't take too kindly to getting stuck and you may get your butt whooped or worse or killed. If you could go to college in Alabama....do it...at least there you'd be legal to carry your handgun there on your TN carry permit...but that probably isn't an option for you.

**Westwindmike** · 10-26-2009, 09:30 AM

A good cane is a great weapon when you can't carry. You can even carry it on an airliner.

**Rock Nova** · 10-26-2009, 12:12 PM

What about a white light with a strike bezel? I'm working on a Master's degree and my classes are all at night, so I carry a Surefire 6P defender. Not only can the light temporarily blind someone, but the strike bezel is pretty gnarly - I would not want it bashed and dragged across my head!

Surefire 6P® Defender® - 6PD-BK available from SureFire

I also carry a big folding Benchmade as well.

10-25-2009, 04:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
Hi Point TGO Member Joined: Jun 2009 Where: Chattanooga Posts: 59	39-17-1309. Carrying weapons on school property. — (a) As used in this section, “weapon of like kind” includes razors and razor blades, except those used solely for personal shaving, and any sharp pointed or edged instrument, except unaltered nail files and clips and tools used solely for preparation of food, instruction and maintenance. (b) (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, with the intent to go armed, any firearm, explosive, explosive weapon, bowie knife, hawk bill knife, ice pick, dagger, slingshot, leaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, knuckles or any other weapon of like kind, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. (2) A violation of this subsection (b) is a Class E felony. (c) (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. It is not an offense under this subsection (c) for a nonstudent adult to possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property. Michie's Legal Resources Handgun Carry Permit T.C.A. Codes I am with you. UTC is not safe. They like to keep things hush hush by just quietly sending us a scrappy email about someone getting robbed at gunpoint or shots being fired in a dorm. __________________ Reloaderz your source for all things reloading Come learn how to reload your primers! We look forward to seeing you over there, and make sure to let us know you are from TN when you introduce yourself! Last edited by Hi Point; 10-25-2009 at 04:23 PM..

10-26-2009, 09:30 AM	#29 (permalink)
Westwindmike TGO Senior Member Joined: Sep 2007 Where: Murfreesboro Age: 55 Posts: 660	A good cane is a great weapon when you can't carry. You can even carry it on an airliner. __________________

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10-13-2009, 11:38 AM	#21 (permalink)
Kegger TGO Member Joined: Mar 2008 Where: Franklin, TN Age: 23 Posts: 270	I know a couple people at UTC that carry anyway. Not necessarily the smartest idea though. I'm a big fan of a knife, monkey's fist, and a very bright flashlight. Blind 'em, then hit 'em. And I second the ASP cert, cause it's better than nothing in a gun fight.

10-13-2009, 02:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
RugerFan7 TGO Freshman Joined: Dec 2008 Where: Fairview, TN Age: 23 Posts: 19	I am stuck in the same hole. I go to MTSU and I feel like it is the main place I need to carry but I can't. Right now I just carry a large pocket knife. Tazers you only have one shot, so I don't think they are worth the money.

10-24-2009, 02:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
steve m TGO Freshman Joined: Aug 2009 Where: nashville Posts: 2	Does anyone know what the Tn laws are on carrying batons concealed? What about saps/blackjacks?

10-25-2009, 10:33 PM	#28 (permalink)
razorback2003 TGO Senior Member Joined: Oct 2007 Where: Shelby County, TN Posts: 624	Get some of that good Kimber Pepper Blaster or Fox Labs to put distance between you and an attacker...you don't want to get into a knife fight with someone because you have to get too close to actually use a knife in self defense. I look at a knife as more of a tool than self defense item....you want something that you can have distance...point...incapacitate...and get away fast...and the good pepper blaster and fox labs does it....knife gets you way too close to the attacker and folks often don't take too kindly to getting stuck and you may get your butt whooped or worse or killed. If you could go to college in Alabama....do it...at least there you'd be legal to carry your handgun there on your TN carry permit...but that probably isn't an option for you.

10-26-2009, 12:12 PM	#30 (permalink)
Rock Nova TGO Freshman Joined: Oct 2009 Where: Smyrna, TN Posts: 1	What about a white light with a strike bezel? I'm working on a Master's degree and my classes are all at night, so I carry a Surefire 6P defender. Not only can the light temporarily blind someone, but the strike bezel is pretty gnarly - I would not want it bashed and dragged across my head! Surefire 6P® Defender® - 6PD-BK available from SureFire I also carry a big folding Benchmade as well.