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Old 07-01-2009, 10:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I hate to say I believe the glory days are well behing us. I seems to me that we are just becoming an average country like the rest of the world. But if you where to ask most people from other countries I would venture to say that they would change places with us any day.
 
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ahh it swings left for 20 or 30 years and swings right for 20 or 30 years. It will swing back around as far to the right as it goes to the left. Just might take awhile....
Or, we have a depression like the '30s. Except unlike then, we'll likely lose a third of our population, and it would likely be similar in many other countries.

Things would probably swing to the right in a hurry.

Actually, that might be the only thing that keeps the US viable for another 233 years or so.

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Old 07-02-2009, 06:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies. I will go on and keep fighting. Don't have a choice. It just gets to me to think what kind of country we are leaving to our kids. I know things have been bad before but it seems when things improve it is never quite as good as it was before. Kind of like trying to walk up a muddy riverbank. 1 step forward and slide back 2. In the end you are always a little worse off. Guess I need to go to the range and shoot something.

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Old 07-02-2009, 06:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Guess I need to go to the range and shoot something.

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That usually makes me feel better about things.
 
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The last time this nation was at a similar crossroad--It was in 1860...

The OP is right--as sad as it is--we have seriously begun our descent into fascism...I don't believe this "economic crisis" is temporary--they call it a recession, but in reality it is still a depression, albeit on a smaller scale than 1929. We have allowed what passes for politicians to sell this country out--and they continue to do so every day. They are chewing at nails trying to find a way to completely circumvent the Constitution--and now that the Democrats have a super majority--they can push through anything they want, and the President will sign it--and that includes their much anticipated "assault weapons ban"...whether or not they are voted out after the fact makes no difference once the cow is out of the barn...
I believe the first words of justme's quote are exactly right (as well as the analysis that follows -- great insight!!!) ; but i believe first words are the most important!! This country is exactly at the crossroads; it will either continue to go left and down to third world status; or the responsible adults in this country will wake up and do something to stem the idiocy that is running rampant in Washington.

The Democrats, the socialists, the anti-captitalists, the "something for nothing crowd", the enviornmental crowd, the other lesser known socialist 60's hippies, along with the foolish have banded together to beat a weak RINO republican presidential candidate and sorry republican incumbents to give us what we have now. This group of miscreants is busy committing economic suicide, making war on capitalism, and paying off their sorry constituency.

In doing all this, Oboma and the Dems have polarized the country exactly as was the case with states rights just before the civil war. The fact is that these people need to be beat at the ballot box; or they will destroy this country. Folks need to wake up and become politically active.

Some have said in this forum that both the Democrats and the Republicans have lost their bearings and are all just a bunch of "dammed polititians". I agree with this; that's why I keep harping about the character of those we send to Washington. Folks have been voting with their pocketbooks way too long in this country. They need to wake up and see (as others have observed) that our liberties are being eroded and our country is being destroyed economically with government trying to buy everything and everybody.

If the real citizens of this country do not wake up, get busy, and elect some real leadership for this country, people like Oboma and the sorry bunch helping him will destroy this country, take your liberties, and make you serfs. That's what third world socialists usually do. So we all need to get busy seeing that this doesnt happen. That means to support good people running for office with both talk and cash. Otherwise, it may have to be done with the cartridge box at great cost to everyone.

I want all here to fully understand that I am, indeed, a rabid, paritzan Republican. I am a Republican because i believe nothing that the current Demorat party believes. Do I believe in third parties? -- NO -- it takes too long to get them going; so the Republicans (sorry as some of them are) are the only viable opposition to the idiocy and treason that is going on now.

It is my belief that if you identify yourself as a Demorat or " Undecided" you you simply have not taken the time to look deeply at what is going on. Do the Republicans do bad things and make bad choices? Yes!! -- they do and have -- they largely allowed Oboma and the Dems to win because of character issues, spending issues, and being "RINO Democrat Lite." If you want the country cleaned up; clean up the Republican party; lets get busy and start cleaning it up now -- that means to get active.

If the Republicans and the other responsible adults in this country do not wake up; go to work; and raise up qualified, honest, conservative, less government, liberty restoring candidates and get them elected; this country will be destroyed and your children and grandchildren will be serfs; and it wont take another 30 years to do this at the rate the Dems are going now.

We all need to get to work, the hides we save will be our own.

Thats how i see things this morning.

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Old 07-02-2009, 11:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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We made it past Carter; we'll make it past Obama.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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We made it past Carter; we'll make it past Obama.
YES WE CAN!!!!! BUT keep in mind Obama has already did more damage to the country in six month's than Carter did in four year's ! JMHO
 
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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We made it past Carter; we'll make it past Obama.
Honestly, if he keeps this pace up, Obama's going to make Carter look like one of the great world leaders of history, in comparison...
 
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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YES WE CAN!!!!! BUT keep in mind Obama has already did more damage to the country in six month's than Carter did in four year's ! JMHO
I dunno. Carter didn't properly deal with Iran, and look where we are today? I lost too many brother Marines in 1983 just because that was too cowardly to deal with them properly. Then there are the ones that we've lost in Afghanistan and Iraq too.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Honestly, if he keeps this pace up, Obama's going to make Carter look like one of the great world leaders of history, in comparison...
What I think is a hoot is that his approval rating is dropping. Perhaps the people who voted for him are realizing their mistake?
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