Feeling real gloomy about our future

Hmmm, strange that Bush's name isn't mentioned once in this thread...

Originally Posted by mrnick

Hmmm, strange that Bush's name isn't mentioned once in this thread...

Okay, I'll mention him. I think Bush did a poor job. I think the new guy makes Bush look amazingly good. I think the congress under Bush was horrible, and it's basically the same congress we have now. A single party having near total control of the government is the worst thing that we can have.

Vote for Ron Paul and people like him in 2010 and 2012 if you want liberty returned and government downsized. We have got to get some more people who are willing to stand up for the Constitution in Congress and in the White House before it's too late.

Cliff

Hi Glenn,

I'm having the depression issue, too. Lately when it gets worse than normal, I get in the car and drive to a gun store. I usually see someone there who gets me thinking about something else, and then I feel better. I like looking at guns, too, and I can usually find a firearm that fires my interest, and that also helps. I have been going to the movies more than usual, but it's summer, and that may actually be normal.

I watch the news and see the insanity and ask "What can we do? What can I do? Surely there is SOMETHING I should be doing." So I write my U.S. Representative and my senators. I am not sure it is doing any good, but I feel like I must try. So I also ask these elected officials, "What else can I, an average citizen, do? Please tell me, and I will try to do it. What else can I do to make this insanity stop?" No one has answered that question yet, but I will keep asking. I wonder who they talk to.

Yeah, I've thought about moving to Texas, but I like being a Tennessean. I hope it doesn't come to that.

I'm praying a lot. This is God-sized problem. In my opinion, He has to be part of ANY solution for it to be successful in the long-term. I believe the rest of the personal answers will come from above.

I do feel your pain, and you are certainly NOT alone.

TNVOLFAN

Brother, you aren't alone.

Yeah, I've thought about moving to Texas,

and moving to Texas is going to solve what?

Originally Posted by USMCJG

A single party having near total control of the government is the worst thing that we can have.

Bingo.

Originally Posted by USMCJG

Okay, I'll mention him. I think Bush did a poor job. I think the new guy makes Bush look amazingly good. I think the congress under Bush was horrible, and it's basically the same congress we have now. A single party having near total control of the government is the worst thing that we can have.

Vote for Ron Paul and people like him in 2010 and 2012 if you want liberty returned and government downsized. We have got to get some more people who are willing to stand up for the Constitution in Congress and in the White House before it's too late.

Cliff

This is a great summary analysis!! Great job!! Here are some things to think about:

I think Bush did a poor job.

Several things made Bush look bad:

1. He never answered his critics in congress or the press.
2. He did not finish Iraq in a timely manner. He was hijacked by the same bunch that didn't finish Gulf War I. He muzzled the military. He said that Iraq would not turn into Viet Nam. He allowed his political enemies in the press and in the Demorat party do just that by their treasonous actions. This alienated the American People (and it should havve). This is his greatest shame. The Iraq war should have been over in a matter of months, not years.
3. He acted as a "big government" Republican with not curbing government spending and government power.
4. He did not go after the career bureaucrats in the State Department, the Defense Department, and the CIA who openly defied him and ultimately destroyed his credibility with the electorate.

In summary, George Bush almost single handedly assured that the republicans would be defeated by being way too reasonable. He made some unbelievable political blunders.
The second thing was a weak Republican presidential candidate. I like John McCain on a personal basis; but he simply is not a small government republican; he is a RINO 66's hippie with a backbone.

I think the congress under Bush was horrible, and it's basically the same congress we have now.

Never in the history of american politics, except for the Civil War has a congress and a political party acted so treasonably. It is stunning to me that this bunch of trash could be elected. George Bush made a great mistake in not calling them out by name and calling them what they are -- nothing but a bunch of partizan socialist hacks who would do anything to regain power; including hurting the military in wartime and treason. The Republicans made a big mistake by not doing the same thing.

[quote] I think the new guy makes Bush look amazingly good. [/QUOTE]

Oboma, his socialist cabinet, and the congress has done more economic damage to this country in less time than any sitting president and congress has ever done in peacetime. The takeover of General Motors is unheardof in american history. GM has been destroyed. Polititians do not run anything efficiently; socialists certainly do not; if they did; the Soviet Union would be the greatest power on earth and Cuba would be a paradise.

Vote for Ron Paul and people like him in 2010 and 2012 if you want liberty returned and government downsized. We have got to get some more people who are willing to stand up for the Constitution in Congress and in the White House before it's too late.

I like Ron Paul. I think he would be a great president. He has character, he knows what he believes, and is a great American. I would love to see Ron Paul take over the Republican Party. The problem is with third parties. They have won once or twice in all of american history.

[QUOTE]...get some more people who are willing to stand up for the Constitution in Congress and in the White House before it's too late.[/QUOTE]

This is the greatest truth spoken in all these posts. If the Democrats are not curbed quickly; they will destroy this country. Those who are concerned about what is going on should be. We all need to get to work to beat these socialist idiots at the ballot box.

Keep up the good work!
Kind Regards,
LEROY

Here is my personal forecast:

California and Illinois are foreshadowing the federal government. We will keep spending and taxing until we are really bankrupt. The gov't won't be able to afford to pay its people, or will print so much money their paychecks will in essence be worthless. Then who is going to enforce they laws without receiving a paycheck? Our problems will mount. And the career politicians will have no ground on which to stand nor will being in politics be profitable. From this point, the people will be fed up and elect politicians who can actually fix the problems. These will be upstanding men and women since being in office will require someone who is not in it for the money or power, since neither are to be gained by office. We will have (hopefully) non-violent revolution. Sometimes you have to get to rock bottom to rebuild, and I think unfortunately we've gotten ourselves in that situation. I'm just waiting for the bottom to drop out.

Originally Posted by tnvolfan

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I'm praying a lot. This is God-sized problem. ...

I recommend the LDS approach, a year's worth of food/water/medicine/etc.
If I were younger and had a family, I'd certainly do that. As it is, I'm settling for 3-4 months worth and a bug out location.

And yes, I hope this is tin foil hattery.

Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.

- OS

Originally Posted by leroy

If the Democrats are not curbed quickly; they will destroy this country. Those who are concerned about what is going on should be. We all need to get to work to beat these socialist idiots at the ballot box.

Keep up the good work!
Kind Regards,
LEROY

The problem is that party politics are worse than they have ever been. I think a lot of moderate democrats would disagree(if they bothered to stop and think about it) with much of what is going on with the federal government right now. The problem is that no one votes their conscience any more. They vote their party. And the extreme "liberals"(big government and reduced personal and economic freedoms are not true liberal ideals, in today's world the word liberal is being used to describe fascists/communists/socialists) are in complete control of the democratic party.

The parties are so powerful that if you don't tow the line, you won't get the party nomination next time. It doesn't matter if you're acting in the best interests of your constituency or not. If you want to be a career politician, you have to play by the party rules. As long as we keep it where you can get rich being a politician, we will always have the wrong kinds of people after the job.

Cliff