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Old 07-01-2009, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Feeling real gloomy about our future

I don't know where to post this but here it goes. I have been trying not to watch so much news lately but it isn't working. I am afraid our country is doomed. The Government is taking over everything, the car business, the banks, health care. Most of the people O is appointing are just unbelievable. I just saw where one of his appointees thinks animals should have the right to sue humans. Huh? They are spending us into a hole we can never get out of. Now this cap and trade thing is going to tax everything that exists. You won't even be able to sell a house without gov. mandated "green" upgrades. Very few in Washington have the balls to stand up for anything. There is really very little difference between the parties, just a different path to the same end. A third world totalitarian government. I think I am going to ask my Dr to put me on antidepressants. Maybe then I can be like a majority of americans and quit giving a damn.

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't know where to post this but here it goes. I have been trying not to watch so much news lately but it isn't working. I am afraid our country is doomed. The Government is taking over everything, the car business, the banks, health care. Most of the people O is appointing are just unbelievable. I just saw where one of his appointees thinks animals should have the right to sue humans. Huh? They are spending us into a hole we can never get out of. Now this cap and trade thing is going to tax everything that exists. You won't even be able to sell a house without gov. mandated "green" upgrades. Very few in Washington have the balls to stand up for anything. There is really very little difference between the parties, just a different path to the same end. A third world totalitarian government. I think I am going to ask my Dr to put me on antidepressants. Maybe then I can be like a majority of americans and quit giving a damn.

Sorry. Rant over

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If you look at our history (and in reality, it's short as Americans compared to Europe and Asia) we have survived worse than is happening now. Please don't lose faith in our ability to weather this temporary economic mess, the gov't BS (and this latest is just a different flavor of the same old same old).
What will be interesting is to see how mid-term elections go and I think you will see some change (my early prediction). How things are with the economy (and perception is often as important as reality) will drive how we vote; money talks and BS walks. Most Americans are middle ground people and dislike extremes to left or right. Sure, we have hobby horses (such as gun rights and for me, guns plus individual rights and getting the damned gov't out of my business), but for the most part, we tolerate a lot from politicians. They are like that favorite Uncle who says odd things at Christmas dinner.
Again, please don't give up the ship and stay abreast of events for the simple fact if you go to vote, you can separate the wheat from the chaff and also, if you engage in discussions with friends or family, you know what is really going on versus a "Reader's Digest" version from a talk show (or a talk show host's version of events).

Democrats seem to have an upper hand (and I don't demonize by party; I vote for person not party), but they are not all a bunch of fools and they want to stay in office - so while some things we won't like, it isn't quite as projected by knucklehead entertainers (aka talk show people on both sides), for example.

Please keep your head up, your powder dry, and look for bright spots - such as the great things everyday people do to make this wonderful country work. You are an AMERICAN and each day is another another opportunity - so please choose the "glass is half-full view" and don't give in to gloom.
 
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Look at it this way, if all else fails, we can all move to Texas or Montana when they leave the union and kick out all the bleeding hearts and be done with em.
 
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Well, the good news is some in the press are starting to wake up...



While I believe things will get worse before they get better, at least some of the kool-aid drinkers are starting to pa attention...
 
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe it's all on the downswing, bringing America to it's end. Sure looks that way a lot more lately, but what does that matter?

We have two choices. Turn the channel to some reality show, drink a beer, and just let it happen, seems to be what most of America has been doing for a while.

Or, we fight it. We call our representatives, we show up to the rallies, we buy WalMart out of golf balls and make the mail trucks break suspension parts. Will it work? Maybe...maybe not. But at least we can say we did all that we could do. Might get punched in the nose, but that doesn't mean we can't fight, claw, and cuss 'till we hit the ground and can't get up anymore.

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If you look at our history (and in reality, it's short as Americans compared to Europe and Asia) we have survived worse than is happening now. Please don't lose faith in our ability to weather this temporary economic mess, the gov't BS (and this latest is just a different flavor of the same old same old).
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Again, please don't give up the ship and stay abreast of events for the simple fact if you go to vote, you can separate the wheat from the chaff and also, if you engage in discussions with friends or family, you know what is really going on versus a "Reader's Digest" version from a talk show (or a talk show host's version of events).

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Please keep your head up, your powder dry, and look for bright spots - such as the great things everyday people do to make this wonderful country work. You are an AMERICAN and each day is another another opportunity - so please choose the "glass is half-full view" and don't give in to gloom.
The last time this nation was at a similar crossroad--It was in 1860...

The OP is right--as sad as it is--we have seriously begun our descent into fascism...I don't believe this "economic crisis" is temporary--they call it a recession, but in reality it is still a depression, albeit on a smaller scale than 1929. We have allowed what passes for politicians to sell this country out--and they continue to do so every day. They are chewing at nails trying to find a way to completely circumvent the Constitution--and now that the Democrats have a super majority--they can push through anything they want, and the President will sign it--and that includes their much anticipated "assault weapons ban"...whether or not they are voted out after the fact makes no difference once the cow is out of the barn...
 
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and that includes their much anticipated "assault weapons ban..
SHHHHHHHHH! The AR prices are just starting to drop.
 
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Maybe it's all on the downswing, bringing America to it's end. Sure looks that way a lot more lately, but what does that matter?

We have two choices. Turn the channel to some reality show, drink a beer, and just let it happen, seems to be what most of America has been doing for a while.

Or, we fight it. We call our representatives, we show up to the rallies, we buy WalMart out of golf balls and make the mail trucks break suspension parts. Will it work? Maybe...maybe not. But at least we can say we did all that we could do. Might get punched in the nose, but that doesn't mean we can't fight, claw, and cuss 'till we hit the ground and can't get up anymore.
Absolutely...all of us need to know what is in bills, pending laws, etc, and make ourselves heard. And VOTE. People in other countries (like Iran) have little chance of making change thru the political process, but we do and if we lay down and say, oh, it's all gone to , then politicians will just run us into the ground. Just for the record, I don't think things are as gloomy or bad as some would have us believe; remember the song about "give us your dirty laundry"? Bad news sells - but a kid who saves his family from a disaster is inside the back page. We cannot be sheeple and live in fear.

What should be worrying us (imho) is when did the "government" start this whole notion of having ANY money and acting as though it is a huge favor to provide us services like roads, etc? They get all the cash from us...and will be taking more and more from future generations.
 
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Ahh it swings left for 20 or 30 years and swings right for 20 or 30 years. It will swing back around as far to the right as it goes to the left. Just might take awhile.

The problem lately is the only difference between the left and right is method not ideology. But still the masses will swing to the right again. Your sheeple as it were. They will again move right and the politics will follow because thats where the money is.
 
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