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Old 11-01-2009, 03:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You may heve her confused with someone with a similar name. Peggny Noonan is a Republican; see here:


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She seems to be slightly confused, LEROY, since she went from conservative to praise Obama and now back to WTF in regards to the current administration. Go Google the following "Peggy Noonan Liberal" and commence reading some of the links provided.

I posted the article to show that more and more people are waking up.
 
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hummmm , i think most people can agree that we are sick of the poor taking advantage and not getting with the program, just as much as the rich taking advantage of the the situation and profiting from it, but yet both extremes have yet to consider the people that make it happen, the middle class, so this leads me to believe at the hart of the matter, with all the smoke and mirrors, from the government and its propagating controlled/influenced media , the cries from those that fail to do for themselves, to the orders of those that have power, wealth and influence, i see them pulling the middle class to one side or the other. that pulling has got us where we are today, but i don't think that either side (rich or poor) have considered that the middle class may turn against both, shake them both loose and seize that position of power that both have been after and finally use it for what is good and just in this world, one day when people wake up hopefully they will see that this might be an outcome, to say to them selves why am i voting for this clown, why am i following this silly law, and snap out of it and become that leader, that person of inspiration, and not hide behind the fact that they lack money or power, but also lack the desperation, and laziness, to heat up the the iron will of the common American, and forge it back into greatness, temper it with justice, and polished with the will to stop taking advantage of other men to better a single man, but work together for the betterment of all mankind without taking from mandkind but contributing to it. lets take advantage of knowledge, strength, determination, insight, and emotions and reclaim what is ours, what our parents should have done, what our ancestors inspired to do and our forefathers started too. we have grown lazy, contempt, and forgot to keep watch over our rights, our way of life, our independence and liberty, and have been decived by those whom were elected to do the will of the people over the betterment of the country.

i think there are many faults, most to blame on the ignorant, stupid and weak, but not necessarily more than those that seek to use those faults to con them out of their rights, or those that stand back and watch it happen.
 
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think that the only solution, long term, is for a strong third party to rise. The presence of a strong third party will mean that it is no longer Democrat agenda vs Republican agenda, both extremes would have to meet in the middle in hopes of building a coalition government (similar to what you see in the parliamentary democracies of Europe) that would be able to actually get work done. We need more pragmatism and less elitism.

If I may plug for just a moment, I am a staunch supporter of the Libertarian Party. A government based on the principles of the LP would go a long way to fix the main problem we have now, which is an excess of government and a shortage of liberty.

In a nutshell, Libertarians believe that the government needs to spend as little money as possible while ensuring its citizens have the most freedom possible.

Anyone who is tired of the status quo, look into the Libertarian Party.
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She seems to be slightly confused, LEROY, since she went from conservative to praise Obama and now back to WTF in regards to the current administration. Go Google the following "Peggy Noonan Liberal" and commence reading some of the links provided.

I posted the article to show that more and more people are waking up.
Sorry SUNTZU; I see what you mean. Did the Google search. How sad, I really liked Peggy Noonan. She may have had a stroke or has become demented and possessed like the "govenator". A common problem with the "political class". Looks like yesterday's voice of reason is todays nut.
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I think that the only solution, long term, is for a strong third party to rise. The presence of a strong third party will mean that it is no longer Democrat agenda vs Republican agenda, both extremes would have to meet in the middle in hopes of building a coalition government (similar to what you see in the parliamentary democracies of Europe) that would be able to actually get work done. We need more pragmatism and less elitism.

If I may plug for just a moment, I am a staunch supporter of the Libertarian Party. A government based on the principles of the LP would go a long way to fix the main problem we have now, which is an excess of government and a shortage of liberty.

In a nutshell, Libertarians believe that the government needs to spend as little money as possible while ensuring its citizens have the most freedom possible.

Anyone who is tired of the status quo, look into the Libertarian Party.
+1 I too, think a third party should be in the thick of the fight for every
office and not just the white house. The status quo needs to change. The
politicians as well as ourselves have had it too good for too long. I used to
think that a third party could have a good chance of winning, and i will
keep on voting LP myself, but with all the lawyers and politicians making
the rules, it's not like in grade school when i was taught that anybody
could be president. But they can't.
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it's not like in grade school when i was taught that anybody
could be president. But they can't.

The amount of money neccessary to successfully fund a political campaign is truly insane.
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