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    TGO Member raydog1's Avatar
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    Looks like Wilson may pay a political price for the outburst. Hero to some, but a lightning rod to others.

    Obama accepts lawmaker's apology for 'lie' remark | General News | Comcast.net

    "Back on Wilson's home turf, the uproar turned into a boon for Democrat Rob Miller, his opponent in next year's midterm elections.

    In the first 24 hours after Wilson's outburst, Miller's campaign coffers swelled by $200,000, according to Jessica Santillo of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. The contribution, she said, came in from 5,000 individual contributions."

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    I fully believe the President and this whole administration has been lying on health care. I believe their agenda is to place us under a Communistic/fascist form of government, and that government forced healthcare where they can fine you for not having Obamacare--is just another step along the road.

    I just wish the Congressman had the guts to stand up and refuse to back down from what he said.
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    Yeah, we've never seen 'individual contributions' used as a mechanism to funnel money to election campaigns before, so that just has to be legit, right?

    Right?

    NW Republican: A. Hitler donates to Obama campaign

    Controversy Over Obama's Small Donors | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

    Steyn on Obama's "Untraceable" Donations

    I'm betting the only people screaming mad about this are obamabots. Personally, I think its' Grrreat!

    And we've never seen democrats interrupt the Presidents' speech before, either...

    YouTube - Democrats Applauding Their Own Obstructionism
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    Joe Wilson site for donations

    Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
    Ronald Reagan

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    Joe Wilson was interviewed by Mark Levin on air tonight. The Nutjobs on he far left
    are now targeting him for defeat next election cycle because he spoke up. Go his web site and send 5 or 10 bucks to help his campaign. We need more congressmen to speak up for us.
    Fear a Government that fears your guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    I fully believe the President and this whole administration has been lying on health care. I believe their agenda is to place us under a Communistic/fascist form of government, and that government forced healthcare where they can fine you for not having Obamacare--is just another step along the road.

    I just wish the Congressman had the guts to stand up and refuse to back down from what he said.
    He had to apologize, House rules don't allow members to call the Prez a liar and Pelosi would have nailed him. The POSOTUS (Piece Of Sh** Of The United States) has a lot of steaming piles supporting him in Congress, ready to go after any detractors.
    Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defence be the_real_object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrnick View Post
    I'm British, so I have no problem with heckling in congress. I have a problem with the content of the heckling by a supposedly informed legislator. It's one thing when rubes at a town hall spout idiotic statements, but quite another when a congressman does it. I have no use for secondary source youtube clips, read the bill: Page 143, Section 246
    1. If you're a brit, I feel sorry for you. Your island is being over-run by a religious cult bent on your destruction, and all I see is your government giving the invaders more "stuff" to not be so mean - yeah, that'll work every time.

    2. I happen to be one of those "rubes" you're looking down your nose at.

    3. IF you read the bill, and look at it in the sunshine, you'll see that slothful1 is dead on, the part you quote is only about the affordability credits. Here's some "second hand" analysis for you.

    “Nonresident alien” is a term under tax but not immigration law. For federal tax purposes, alien individuals are classified as resident or nonresident aliens. In general, an individual is a nonresident alien unless he or she meets the qualifications under a residency test. Thus, legal permanent residents, and noncitizens and unauthorized aliens who qualify as resident aliens (i.e., meet the substantial presence test), would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance.
    Which means they would automagically have access to the "public option", or taxpayer funded healthcare.

    This analysis was included in the document Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200
    by rubes
    Alison Siskin
    Specialist in Immigration Policy
    and
    Erika K. Lunder
    Legislative Attorney

    It's available here Hot Air Blog Archive Congressional Research Service: ObamaCare will cover illegal immigrants

    4. I don't expect you to care about analysis; and the obvious thinking of the liberals that this is a way to "back door" care for the illegals, who will then be registered to vote by ACORN to keep their man in power. The largest concentration of illegals is in the (surprise) same states that Obama needs to win to get another term.

    5. By narrowing the scope of a 1400 page bill with a gazillion clauses in it to one statement on one page is to underestimate the snake oil salesmen (both parties) now in charge and their acumen for slipping one past the people when they have that much camo (words) in which to hide their true intent.

    6. This whole discussion is mute when placed beside the US Constitution. Their is NO provision for this sort of thing, there is no provisions for the bailouts and take overs this government has and is continuing to carry out, and certainly no empowerment for the czars that are now arguably responsible for more actual "government" than the congress.

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    The truth is I care neither for the Dems or the Repubs, They are both only concerned with keeping themselves in power. I am for some sort of reform because too many taxpaying citizens cannot afford or obtain coverage. The republicans are pandering to the wealthy corporate machine, the Dems are wanting to give every mexican, or other minority of the week the whole store and screw the white guy. I applaud Mr. Wilson for stating the truth. Thank goodness somebody had the balls to stand up too "O".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrnick View Post
    And here ladies and gents is your republican party. Reduced to yelling out baseless insults during presidential speeches like juveniles. He should really apologize for being so idiotically wrong about it being a lie. Why can't we debate the actual proposals, instead of these made up demons? There is zip, zero, zilch evidence that any of the proposed legislation would provide coverage to illegals. Yet, here is this idiot acting like a fool, defending a point that can't be defended.


    You have got to be kidding me........ "your Republican party"....How about when the Libs, I mean Democrats Boo'ed GWB back in 2005 during the State of the Union Address......Video Flashback: Dems Shout And Boo At Bush During 2005 SOTU [Video] | Mere Rhetoric ....?????

    Lemme guess, you forgot about that?

    As far as illegals getting the free healthcare....Illegals will be covered, Obama says they won't. This has been proven repeatedly, and no more glaringly than the Democrats' refusal to put explicit language in the bill to require citizenship to receive health care.
    " On July 30 of this year, a House committee voted against a Republican amendment offered by Rep. Nathan Deal that would have required health care providers to use the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) Program to prevent illegal aliens from receiving government health care services. All Republicans and five Democrats voted for it, but 29 Democrats voted against it, killing the amendment."

    There are 47...err...30 million uninsured. Part lie, part misdirect. The 47->30 thing is because he sometimes includes illegals and sometimes doesn't. The 30 that don't include illegals do include people who can afford health coverage or have it offered by an employer and don't sign up for it, the people who are eligible for Medicare and don't sign up, which brings the number ~11 million.

    How's that for "debating the proposals" or showing you the evidence of illegal immigrant coverage? As it is now, NO ONE can be turned away from a hospital E.R. that needs treatment....NO ONE. The illegals no this and that's exactly where they go when the need medical help. Then they skip on the bill and guess who gets to pay for it?

    We are not going to solve the health care crisis UNTIL we solve illegal immigration.





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    I will be surprised if he is reelected. The Dems. are trying to lynch him. Demanding an apology in front of full house.
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