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Old 06-04-2007, 04:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting that.
 
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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IMHO, the fewer range rules, the better.


I got yelled at on a range in California for “shooting too fast”.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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One of the local gun clubs tried to put in a one shot per second rule. Got a bunch of the old members in a rage. It was a dumb idea and unneeded. Finally the idea just quietly died of its own stupidity.
 
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I had a chance to do some shooting at an unsupervised facility this afternoon. There were full-auto and suppressed weapons in use and people were trading up firearms quite a bit to shoot whatever struck their fancy.

Amazingly... none of us shot each other. No RSO and yet no one assumed room temperature!

Thankfully we all knew enough about each other to trust each other's abilities and gun handling etiquette. But I think that's the key. If you don't play well with others or don't know how to, then having RSOs on hand is a good idea.
 
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:18 AM   #15 (permalink)
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It's unlikely that I'd ever shoot much at a place that requires an RSO to be present to shoot. That's one reason I like forest service ranges and quit one gun club that went to RSO requirements.
 
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I will say this, Mars. There are some seriously dumb people in this world and a few of them own firearms and don't have any business doing so. For those people, RSOs are a necessity on public ranges.

One guy came into Joe's shop yesterday and proceeded to muzzle rake Joe and everyone else in the room with what ended up being a loaded firearm that he had brought in to trade. Hornet Handler and I immediately went to the other side of the building and put a few walls between us and this bozo.

Gun shop owners should wear kevlar just because of the Stupid People Factor.
 
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I've heard that pointing a loaded gun at a gun-shop owner is the fastest way to lower the value of your trade-in... if not your life.
 
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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While there is no doubt that some ranges have rules that are to say the least, onerous, IMHO if you don't like the range rules then find another range. Either that or talk to the range owner and see about getting the rules changed or at least modified or partially suspended at certain particular times.

Every range must have some rules but they should be simple and based on the three basic rules of firearms safety:
  1. Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction
  2. Keep your finger off the trigger until your target is in your sights and
  3. keep it unloaded until ready to use it
and of course include a few common sense (because it is not as common as some would have you believe) rules pertaining to times of use, no shooting at glass items, no handling of firearms while range is in cold condition, clean up after yourself and personal safety items like eye and ear protection requirements.

I have no problem with the concept of a range using RSO's as I am an NRA certified RSO. After all, not everyone keeps safety on the front burner when they are handling firearms. Folks occasionaly have a brain fart i.e. Lee Paige, the DEA agent that shot himself in the foot in front of a class of third graders while doing a firearms safety talk.
The problems arise however when either the range owner or his/her insurance company tries to over regulate the activities on their range or the RSO puts his own interpretation of the range rules into play.

 
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I've heard that pointing a loaded gun at a gun-shop owner is the fastest way to lower the value of your trade-in... if not your life.
I saw a dumb ass actually run out of a gunshop- no questions asked- for waving a gun around in a shop. The offender cursed and swore that he'd never be back. The rest of us gave the clerk an ovation.
 
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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keep it unloaded ?

What about carry pistols (concealed or otherwise) at a shooting range ?
I wouldn't want an RSO telling me I have to unload my pistol if it's my carry weapon.
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