a Tennessee perspective

I seen this on another site where members are from all over the world. I wanted to post this here to keep this in a Tennessee perspective and wanted to see what you guys would do.

Passive Non-Compliance
This is based on a situation in which a friend of mine in another state experienced. I'd like to get your take on what you'd do.

You are at home and it is "trash night". You decide to take out the trash, then put the trash can out by the curb. You're still wearing your CCW pistol, covered with a shirt or light jacket. Additionally, you live in the suburbs, so this is not a rural area.

When you leave the house to dump the trash, you hear strange noises from the driveway. When you look, you see the passenger door is open and one leg sticking out below the door of your still kind-of new 2008 car. Next to the leg is your car's CD player and a piece of dashboard trim. You can hear the whirring of a ratchet tool from inside the car.

You slip to a window and tell a family member what's happening and to call 911. When you return, you decide to confront Carl Carthief to prevent further damage to your car.

You tell him not to move and to raise his hands slowly. He looks over his shoulder, sees you have your weapon (if you'd use it at this point) and says "No." Then resumes his disassembly of your car. Again you repeat the commands and he raises one hand slowly, then drops your car's stereo on the ground. He tells you to go commit some anatomically impossible act and returns to wrenching on your car. Whatever order you give him, he simply replies "No" or tells you to go away and stuff yourself.

Your wife, thinking she's being "helpful" yells from the window that she's called the police and that "they said it'll be about 30 minutes!" [thanks a lot, dear]. You hear Carl Carthief chuckling inside the car and then your car's steering wheel airbag unit lands next to the radio and CD player.

Now what?

I would swear he threatened me with the ratchet right before I shot him. Or he brought a kitchen knife with him.

I think the term "skull drag" comes to mind.

At this point, I would be pissed and ready to protect my personal property, but in no way feel my life is threatened.

Both of my hands would be free, as my gun would still be holstered, which allows me to snatch his thieving ass out of my vehicle and onto the ground.

I still believe in a good old fashioned beat down, so lethal force remains my final option.

I would tell my wife to let my large, hungry dog out for a nice little snack.

Well, first off I'd grab that leg, pull his ass out of the car in one swift motion, then deliver a beat-down.

you say "hey ,let me help you close that car door"and in a hard and fast manner you do so over and over. when he turns to attack with the ratchet tool ,in gen. patton's words from the movie,you'll know what to do.

I am with bugmanz

"...the passenger door is open and one leg sticking out below the door..."

That's what's referred to as an opportunity.

Swift kick in the gonads usually works

Originally Posted by bugmanz

you say "hey ,let me help you close that car door"and in a hard and fast manner you do so over and over. when he turns to attack with the ratchet tool ,in gen. patton's words from the movie,you'll know what to do.

+1 on the slam his body in the door enough times should get his undivided attention,our luck the BG would bring us up on assault charges and win knowing our court system.

Originally Posted by bugmanz

you say "hey ,let me help you close that car door"and in a hard and fast manner you do so over and over. when he turns to attack with the ratchet tool ,in gen. patton's words from the movie,you'll know what to do.

This was my immediate thought when I saw the door was open with a leg sticking out.