Challenge "Guns-in-bars" Law: Nashville attorneys David Randolph Smith & Adam Dread

I was going to take a few minutes and point out several of the problems with the article. Then I realized that in the comments section there are several good posts that explain the fallacies and misrepresentations. It would be singing to the choir here anyway.

Guns in "bars" is ILLEGAL---how stupid are some people?

"Guns in bars" was illegal before and is still ILLEGAL--is the media not smart enough to read or what? An education is required to be a journalist yes?

I wonder if either of these guys have ever had an ambulance back over them

Won't matter. AG already said they can't prohibit it. Let them yell and throw their tantrum. Law is on OUR side now.

So, at exactly what point did TN become a state full of douchebags and idiots? There sure doesn't seem to be any shortage of either lately.

In some states a restauarant where alcohol is served is still considered a restaurant and not a bar. Could they be counting states where guns are allowed in restaurants but not bars but under the laws of that state there is no difference in restaurants where alcohol is served and where it is not? Restaurants are defined in some states as an establishment where over 50% of the revenue is from food and they're only counting states where guns can be carried in "bars" with over 50% of the revenue coming from alcohol sales. That could certainly skew the numbers.

Originally Posted by Jamie

Why do I get the feeling you guys may have just offended clowns everywhere?

I apologize to those wonderful professional and amateur people who have sought to pursue a noble art...but not him.

Originally Posted by justme

Guns in "bars" is ILLEGAL---how stupid are some people?

"Guns in bars" was illegal before and is still ILLEGAL--is the media not smart enough to read or what? An education is required to be a journalist yes?

Maybe we should jsut sue all of the opposition legislators, news media and 'super lawyers' for misrepresentation of facts for calling it 'guns in bars' in the first place.

Lawyer talk, half truths and out rights lies.

What Ky says:

Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on premises which is primarily devoted to that purpose.

They define BARS, not restaurants that serve food and alcoholic beverages.

All the states carry laws can be looked up on line. Be careful the problem is not all states carry laws have been updated after new legislation was passed such as carry where alcohol is served. You have to ask about the law to carry where alcohol is served.
Utah

Summary
Utah allows unlicensed open carry of a firearm that is at least 2 actions from firing. For example, a semi-auto may have a full mag but the chamber must be empty. Permit holder may open carry as well, but their firearms may be fully loaded.





Legal Disclaimer We make every effort to provide correct information on this site. However, the legal landscape surrounding open carry is fluid and subject to a myriad of political influences in the various states. Therefore, any and all information you glean from this site should be independently verified! Forum To read real open carry stories from Utah or to contribute your own, click here State Constitution Article I, Section 6

The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the legislature from defining the lawful use of arms. Minimum Age to OC 18 (Valid Permit Required) Preemption Complete State Preemption of All Firearm Laws

NOTE: Almost all states allow local regulation of the discharge of firearms Open Car Carry You may carry in your vehicle open or concealed just like in your home. Private Sales Private Sales Are Legal Permit Issued Concealed Firearm Permit K-12 Carry Carry Specifically Authorized by Statute For Permit Holders

NOTE: The Federal Gun-Free School Zones Act Restricts Carry to RESIDENT Permit Holders College Carry Carry Specifically Authorized by Statute


NOTE: Students May NOT be Subject to Academic Sanctions For Exercising This Right



Places Off Limits

• Houses of Worship

State Law

• Utah Code

Official Documents State Organizations Local Ordinances Concealed Carry Available at Handgunlaw.us

What Michagin says:

• Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
  
• Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.
  
• Sports arena or stadium
  
• A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
  
• Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons
  
• An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
  
• A hospital
  
• A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
  
• A Casino
  
  

"Premises" does not include the parking areas of the places listed



Either they are brain damaged or think that we are???

Originally Posted by threeshot

“The ultimate victory, if it would ever happen, would be for the court to recognize a constitutional right to be free from gun violence, public or private,” Smith said.

This is an absolute joke.