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Old 10-27-2009, 08:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i guess all that is left is to wait and see how many criminals want to come kill you now that they all know you have a gun, i bet their is one out side your window now, relax i doubt you will have to worry about any criminal messing with you if they know your armed. oops i see them attacking a grandma on her hoveround no she showed her gun shes ok now,
My main worry was that they might break into my vehicle when I'm not in it to steal my gun(it happened in a small town where I live when Im not in school so people know me and my vehicle). Besides how can you people criticize me for wanting privacy when you were the very people raising hell about open records of HCPers, there is no difference. I think we may be straying a little bit for the origional topic but I dont care. This is a good discussion

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Old 10-27-2009, 08:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Doubt anyone could make such a thing out if they were travelling at speed unless the gun was sitting on its edge, in a profile position.
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Rubberneckers drive pretty slow on a backroad. He had no business taking my gun in the first place. Im pretty sure the law says he has to fear for his safety. Its bad enough I have to buy my 2Amendment right to bear arms but after I paid for them he has no business taking my gun and if he does he can at least be discreet about it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Rubberneckers drive pretty slow on a backroad. He had no business taking my gun in the first place. Im pretty sure the law says he has to fear for his safety. Its bad enough I have to buy my 2Amendment right to bear arms but after I paid for them he has no business taking my gun and if he does he can at least be discreet about it.
Yes, they are supposed to have reason to believe they are in fear for their safety. It's obvious that this officer thinks any law abiding citizen with a firearm is a threat to his safety. It's completely discretionary and entirely up to the particular officer. I think it would have been best to not take your weapon in the first place, but if he felt it was necessary I agree that putting it on top of your car may not have been ideal.

The only thing you can really do is call the PD and tell them about your concerns. Be polite and let them know that you would prefer that your firearm was not left in plain view of the public if it must be taken away for the officers safety. Perhaps they will talk to the officer who pulled you over and he will handle it differently the next time.
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I could care less who knows I have a permit.

Maybe he did fear for his safety, you never know what kind of situation he has been in before. Maybe you were nervous or shifty when he came to the car. He could have just had a bad feeling about that day. Who knows?

You really shouldn't make a big deal out of it, he didn't break the law and it's not like he confiscated it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I thought you were a strong supporter of the privacy of HCPers. Him putting the gun on my roof for criminals and everyone to see is worse than the Commercial Appeal Putting my name in a Database. It would be different if he had a reason to fear his safety and took it to his car. Its not that I am ashamed or embarrassed about protecting myself.
Man, give it about 10-15 more years and you won't care near as much about the petty crap as you do right now. Things like a cop disarming you for his protection during a routine stop will seem like a pretty inconsequential, common sense thing and you won't even think twice about it being left on the roof of your car.



Honestly, if the cop had taken it with him to his car you'd probably be just as upset about that. Or more. "OMG, did he run the serial number? Did he do something with it?"

Let it go. Breathe deep. Live longer.
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I agree. You need to grow a thicker skin.

Who's going to even know it's you? And do you think a criminal is really going to trail a "hard target?"

Wear your seatbelt and don't give the trooper a reason to pull you over



Edit: Wow, about 5 posts between starting to write one and hitting the "POST REPLY" button! I understand what you're talking about in a small town, but seriously, it's not that big a deal. Your right to privacy ranked just a "little" lower than the trooper's perceived need for safety.

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Old 10-27-2009, 09:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thank "The Maker" that you didn't get so upset about the cop that you left it on the roof when you tore out of there.
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It is a big deal. You have to stand your ground when they abuse the law. They are suppossed to be in fear for their safety and I gave him no reason to fear, I was polite. Answer this: Do you believe that the Government has the right to make laws that infringe upon our Constitutional Rights? When he took that gun he infringed upon my 2A right to KEEP and bear arms. As for the Seat belt law, the government has no business making laws to protect me from myself it is nothing more than a means of revenue and another reason to pull you over.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Thank "The Maker" that you didn't get so upset about the cop that you left it on the roof when you tore out of there.
lol yea. I let him hand it back to me didnt wanna get shot lol.
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