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#21 MLC

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 03:02 AM

One more vote for the MP15 Sport. I was in the same boat as you and picked up mine a few weeks ago at the Bill Goodmans show at the fairgrounds. Have had a bunch of things come up here and there that have kept me from getting to shoot it yet, but I plan on getting to play some time this week. I'm honestly thinking about buying a 2nd one just to have and keeping it stock and have the one I've got now for modding and playing with. I'll see if I can find the guy's card that I got mine from. I'm not positive but I think he had one or 2 more of them. If I find it I'll PM you.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 03:08 AM

My first AR was a Colt 6940 :rofl: and I still have this flawless gun! Been through many rounds and only had one jam with steel cased crap ammo.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 03:13 AM

Dolomite how can you tell if you have a 5R barrel, I have a M&P15 and on the barrel is 5.56 nato 1/9


5R barrels from S&W are 8 twist, not 9 so yours is standard rifling.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:16 AM

I was a "first timer" ar-15 buyer a month ago. I'm glad i went ahead on my gut and bought the S&W MP-15 sport when i did.

Took it to the range( again) this past saturday and let my friend shoot it as well. Handled flawlessly, i even took the red dot off and used the iron sights, still a blast.

Only added an adjustable foregrip besides the red dot "Barska" ( it does what it is supposed to do). Maybe a bipod later on.

But for the $ and the name, you can't go wrong.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:14 PM

Well, after all the good info I went out looking for an M&P 15 this morning. Drove from Nashville to Lebanon Gun Shop and lo and behold found one hanging on the wall. Walked up to the young man behind the counter, told him I was looking to buy and asked how much. He replied $699 and went back to popping bubble wrap with his knife. Never said another word. I stood there for a good minute or two with a pocket full of money and looking at the gun on the wall across the counter until a man came in asking to see the gunsmith. The lady there replied he wasn't there, so bubble boy stopped what he was doing, walked AROUND me and across the store to look at this guys jammed 1911. I guess business is so good at Lebanon Gun Shop they can blow off $700 sales. I might have a hard time finding another M&P 15 in stock, but I will wait and sure won't purchase it in Lebanon.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:24 PM

Well, after all the good info I went out looking for an M&P 15 this morning. Drove from Nashville to Lebanon Gun Shop and lo and behold found one hanging on the wall. Walked up to the young man behind the counter, told him I was looking to buy and asked how much. He replied $699 and went back to popping bubble wrap with his knife. Never said another word. I stood there for a good minute or two with a pocket full of money and looking at the gun on the wall across the counter until a man came in asking to see the gunsmith. The lady there replied he wasn't there, so bubble boy stopped what he was doing, walked AROUND me and across the store to look at this guys jammed 1911. I guess business is so good at Lebanon Gun Shop they can blow off $700 sales. I might have a hard time finding another M&P 15 in stock, but I will wait and sure won't purchase it in Lebanon.


Not good. My sisters husband swears by that place though he's only been in there a few times. I understand not hassling the customer about a purchase or gettin' in their buisness but a few words to help the customer know that questions can and will be answered can work wonders. Sorry to hear about the bad news....I know you were looking forward to one...

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:28 PM

Well, after all the good info I went out looking for an M&P 15 this morning. Drove from Nashville to Lebanon Gun Shop and lo and behold found one hanging on the wall. Walked up to the young man behind the counter, told him I was looking to buy and asked how much. He replied $699 and went back to popping bubble wrap with his knife. Never said another word. I stood there for a good minute or two with a pocket full of money and looking at the gun on the wall across the counter until a man came in asking to see the gunsmith. The lady there replied he wasn't there, so bubble boy stopped what he was doing, walked AROUND me and across the store to look at this guys jammed 1911. I guess business is so good at Lebanon Gun Shop they can blow off $700 sales. I might have a hard time finding another M&P 15 in stock, but I will wait and sure won't purchase it in Lebanon.


Well did you ask to see it or just stand there waiting to be served?
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:52 PM

Well did you ask to see it or just stand there waiting to be served?


I was the only one in the store standing directly in front of him for over a minute looking at the gun I asked the price on while he stood there behind the counter popping bubble wrap. No can I help you, would you like to see it. I walked up to him, told him I was looking to buy an M&P 15 and asked how much was the one on display. I shouldn't have ask him to please stop popping the bubble wrap and talk to me. That's not the way to run a business that depends on sale of your product.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:01 PM

Lebanon Gun Shop has always helped me just fine but this sort of service doesn't surprise me. The worst service out that way is Armory in Lebanon. I stick with Guns and Leather.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:07 PM

Might be easier to order from JoeBob with free shipping and 5% "TGO" (that's the coupon code) discount: http://www.joebobout.../gun-811036.htm

Then find a reasonable FFL to handle the transfer.

Edited by Garufa, 06 March 2012 - 08:08 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:13 PM

Thanks for the link, Garufa. I just might do that.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:43 PM

Might be easier to order from JoeBob with free shipping and 5% "TGO" (that's the coupon code) discount: http://www.joebobout.../gun-811036.htm

Then find a reasonable FFL to handle the transfer.


Why does a rifle need an FFL? I thought only handguns needed to go through an FFL.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:18 PM

Why does a rifle need an FFL? I thought only handguns needed to go through an FFL.


It is my understanding that an FFL is required for all cross-state firearm transactions. This is a pretty good FAQ summarizing the reules/regulations/laws:
http://www.gunbroker...=1118&NoCount=1

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:42 PM

Why does a rifle need an FFL? I thought only handguns needed to go through an FFL.

It is my understanding that an FFL is required for all cross-state firearm transactions. This is a pretty good FAQ summarizing the reules/regulations/laws:
http://www.gunbroker...=1118&NoCount=1


All interstate firearms purchases require an FFL, longgun or handgun. Private interstate sales are illegal.

Even if you purchase a handgun at an FFL out of state, it still has to be shipped to an FFL in your home state for transfer before you can take possession. You can buy a rifle (depending on the state) from an FFL and take possession then.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:10 PM

All interstate firearms purchases require an FFL, longgun or handgun. Private interstate sales are illegal.

Even if you purchase a handgun at an FFL out of state, it still has to be shipped to an FFL in your home state for transfer before you can take possession. You can buy a rifle (depending on the state) from an FFL and take possession then.


Thanks for the clarification, I am new to all of this, I generally go to my LGS and buy, but to save $200-$400, it might be worth it to buy online.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:32 PM

Bud's has it for $622, but it's out of stock right now. JoeBob's is a TGO supporter and after the 5% TGO discount, it's just $14.45 more and they have it in stock. I use D&T in Rivergate for my FFL transfers. they are also a TGO vendor and have a very reasonable transfer fee of $15 (+$10 for TICS, but everyone has that) when you tell them you're with TGO. Total damage: $661.45 out the door.

The standard M&P Sport is SKU 811036. The others (811037, 811038) are for compliance in other states so they have 10 round mags, fixed stocks, fixed mags, stuff like that. I can't recall the different "features" that each of those others have, but the 811036 is the one you want.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

What does the Lebanon Gun Shop charge for transfers? :devil:

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

To expound on what Murgatroy has said.

All sales between private parties and within the borders of the state do not require a FFL. This is providing you feel comfortable enough with the buyer. It is perfectly legal to sell a firearm sight unseen by the buyer and ship it directly to the buyer without going through an FFL as long as it is a in state sale.

For anyone ordering online ensure the one you are ordering is the one with the Magpul rear sight. Evidentally there are some that have fixed rear sights rather than the Magpul sights.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:37 PM

What does the Lebanon Gun Shop charge for transfers? :devil:


Who cares?

It is obvious they don't care so why should any potential customer. It sounds almost like the greeting you get at CCA.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:51 PM

Who cares?

It is obvious they don't care so why should any potential customer. It sounds almost like the greeting you get at CCA.

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There might be some twisted satisfaction in walking out the door. "Oh, by the way, you could have made $100 off that rifle instead of just $25 for a transfer if bubble boy over there cared anything about your customers."

Edited by Garufa, 06 March 2012 - 11:52 PM.