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timcar, wait till someone gives you your first "senior discount" without asking you. I got really mad... then said, "Waitaminit... I just saved my sales tax!" Suddenly, I wasn't so pissed...

My car, my rules. Your car, your rules. Any passenger in my vehicle wears a seatbelt, or they can find another mode of transportation. If I were to get in someone's car and they said no seatbelt, I would get out of the car and find an alternate method of travel.

If it has a number following, it means seller is using sun-block.

“Collateral damage.†How the DEA defines your business, your freedom, and your life. May 8, 2012 11:18 pm - Author: Eric In a story that would be touching in the ordinary context, an 88 year old man and his 85 year old girlfriend built a portable water purification business from a dream to a reality. Nothing wrong there; such things are supposed to be part of the American Dream. But now, their business is being ruined by one of the most unaccountable and tyrannical bureaucracies in the history of government, the DEA: 88-year-old Bob Wallace, and his 85-year-old girlfriend, Marjorie Ottenberg fell in love 35 years ago backpacking to the tops of the highest peaks in the world. Wallace is a Stanford educated engineer and Ottenberg is a former chemist and decades ago they came up with a water purification product for backpackers like themselves called Polar Pure out of their garage in Saratoga, Calif. “For an old guy with nothing else to do, this is something that keeps us occupied,†says Wallace. Today, Wallace and Ottenberg are fighting the Drug Enforcement Administration and state officials to continue to operate their business. Why? The DEA says that drug dealers are using their product to make methamphetamine. The DEA says meth heads are interested in Polar Pure’s key ingredient, iodine crystals. Too lazy to go after the meth heads, they have to go after perfectly legitimate business, destroying the dream of two honest elderly Americans. You don’t have to be opposed to the Drug War to be opposed to such tyranny. Wallace and Ottenberg’s business will of course be ruined, because they cannot possibly comply with the laws demands that they pay huge regulatory fees, plus “register with the state and feds, report any suspicious activity and keep track of each and ever person who bought a bottle of their product.†Nor can their customers, which included camping stores and online outlets that stocked their product. They are being wiped out, and the DEA dismissively calls this “collateral damageâ€: Instead of dealing with the new regulations they just dropped the product, effectively killing Wallace and Ottenberg’s business. “Any time you deal with a government it’s a hassle,†says Ottenberg. A spokeswoman for the DEA told the San Jose Mercury News that Wallace was “collateral damage.†I suppose I could ask just what provision of the Constitution gives the DEA the power to shut down dealers in iodine. After all, I ask these questions all the time. To no avail. We are no longer governed, but we are ruled. This government is monstrous. It no longer resembles what the founders envisioned, and very few people care. Those who do are ridiculed as cranks. OK, so I’m a crank. I admit it. But that does not make me wrong. The DEA is operating outside of constitutional parameters so routinely that it has become a law unto itself. And I don’t just mean asserting the power to regulate anything it wants. One of the hallmarks of tyranny is the detention of citizens without a hearing. And more. Representative Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) sent a letter to DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart asking the agency to comply with an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the detention of 23-year-old Daniel Chong. The UC San Diego engineering student was arrested during a drug raid, interrogated for four hours, then locked in a holding cell and left there for five days without food, water, or access to a toilet. During those five days, Chong was forced to drink his own urine. Fearing that he would die in the cell, he broke the lens of his glasses and attempted to carve a message to his mother on his arm using a shard. Chong then tried to commit suicide by swallowing the broken pieces of his eye glasses. He was discovered unconscious and covered in feces, and admitted to a San Diego hospital suffering from dehydration, kidney failure, and a punctured esophagus. Got that? The DEA held a suspect for five days and nearly tortured him to death. This is the United States? And how about the severely injured woman who, after surgery for a shattered knee cap, went to the drug store to fill a perfectly legitimate pain killer prescription, and found herself hauled away: The pharmacy called Lenhart to ask her exactly what time she would be in pick up her prescription. She thought it was odd, but told the pharmacy what time she would be there. Still on crutches and unable to drive, a friend of Lenhart’s, drove her to a CVS Pharmacy in Oak Cliff. She wasn’t able to pick up her prescription because a police officer arrived to pick her up. “He was like ‘we need to go outside,’†she said. “I was on crutches and I had a permanent IV line in my arm. I had a big leg brace. I asked him if it was necessary and he said yes and he rather policingly escorted me out the front door and into the back of a waiting patrol car.†Never mind that it was another bureaucratic mistake. This severely injured woman spent the night in jail. After she was finally released on bond, she was charged with a felony. The DEA, of course, is behind this racket too. They have unconstitutionally delegated to themselves authority to regulate every prescription for every controlled substance sold in every pharmacy in the United States, and as Radley Balko explains in his analysis of the case, pharmacists and doctors live in terror of them: These idiots couldn’t even bother to call the woman’s doctor before tossing her in a jail cell. Lenhart’s story has been making its way around the web the past few days, and has been generating the appropriate outrage. But it shouldn’t be all that surprising. This is the perfectly predictable outcome of all this painkiller hysteria of late. It’s bad enough coming from the usual drug warriors. But because there’s a big evil pharmaceutical corporation to play the villain, we now get progressive outlets like ProPublica, and Alternet and Salon spitting out the government’s hype without the least bit of skepticism—or concern for pain patients. You can’t really blame the pharmacist, here. She risks arrest and criminal prosecution if some overeager prosecutor looking to make a name for himself decides she hasn’t been sufficiently suspicious of her customers. Think about that. The government will now throw you in jail for failing to be suspicious enough of your fellow citizens. (And not just with painkillers — remember this monstrous injustice?) Don’t blame her employer, either. The DEA recently shut down two CVS stores in Florida because federal drug cops thought the stores should have been turning away more people who came to fill pain medication prescriptions. Not only that, the agencies also attempted to shut down the wholesaler who supplies those stores for not being sufficiently suspicious of them, a move that would have left thousands of patients in several states without access to the medication they need. The government has created a poisonous, paranoid atmosphere in which every player in the painkiller process from manufacturer to patient has been deputized to police every other player, to the point where anyone who doesn’t continually question the motives and actions of everyone else risks losing his livelihood, or even his freedom. Yes, and that includes 88 year old water purifiers. Collateral damage? How far does it go?

There's no miracle "life saver" that comes standard in any vehicle. Yes, I can think of a couple of people involved in crashes I've investigated that I could send you to and they could tell you how they would probably be dead had they been buckled up. However, I can think of three times as many who would tell you how they wished that they had buckled up. Well, they can't actually tell you, but maybe their family could. All I know is from what I've seen in real life in my line of work. I don't base my decisions off of my best friend's cousin's half-brother's babysitter telling me about being thrown from a horrendous crash to safety and surviving only because she wasn't wearing a seat belt. Hell, it could be true - there are no guarantees in car crashes. I base my decision on what I've personally seen leading up to having to knock on someones door and ask them if I can come in and if they can have a seat so I can deliver some bad news. Everyone here is grown. Don't like seat belts? Don't wear 'em. Don't like the law on 'em? Contact your lawmakers. I'm not gonna preach to you that you should wear them if you're already dead set against them. I'm also not going to yell at you for not wearing blaze orange during rifle season while you're deer hunting, not wearing gloves when giving blood transfusions to HIV patients, not wearing a hard hat on the construction site, or for tasting the strange white powder that showed up in the mystery envelope. Your decisions are yours. So, too, are the consequences. An orange vest may not stop some moron from shooting me during deer season and a seat belt may hurt me more than help me in 10% of the crashes I could experience, but I find myself trying to tilt the odds into my favor whenever possible. YMMV

Homos... Black Panthers... them sumbitches all look alike

It is a right...everyone in the world has the right to make themselves miserable. It don't matter who's rhubarb you wanna rub, if you wanna be miserable married, go for it!

I didn't say you mentioned the bible. That's the main reason for the discrimination.

Some folk don't need a reason to go after the bible.

Just because it's sometimes called a scattergun, don't expect the shot to scatter much. Within the confines of your house, you won't be knocking them down two or three at a time. I have a Browning BPS with 20" barrel ion one side of the house and an 18" ithaca Model 37 on the other. They'll be good at defending from a fixed position, IMHO, but I won't go looking for BGs with them. Rather, I'll wait for them to come to me. I have handguns sprinkled throughout the house in various places in case the door gets kicked in, but the shotguns are my Alamo.

Ya know... conservatives would have a LOT easier road without their selective discrimination. Scream "Constitution" at the top of their lungs, and then deny equal rights. I know, the Bible says...

You know, if anyone wants to throw that "N" word down, I've met more white ones than anything. I'm neither proud nor ashamed to be a white guy. BUT, if there were going to be a race of people I would NOT TRUST as a whole. It'd probably be white folks. Typically, you can trust most other races to do what they do and have always done. White folk? You can't ever tell what they'll do. Some will crusade for the Lord Jesus Christ and try to feed the children while others carry on the white tradition as the great destroyer. No other race of people can compete [historically] with the white man for wholesale slaughter.

In reference to the "lifetime warranty" that so many manufacturers seem to base their lives on... offering it is great, but if the customer who only owns one firearm to protect his/her family has to repeatedly send in the weapon for 1-3 weeks at a time, is that weapon actually doing what it's supposed to be doing? (protecting the family).Warranties and guarantees have been summed up very succinctly in the past: Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted. Why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting. Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening. Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside. Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good. Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted? [chuckles until he sees that Ted is not laughing] Ted Nelson, Customer: [impatiently] What's your point? Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times. Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box? Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ####. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me. Ted Nelson, Customer: [pause] Okay, I'll buy from you. Mac

Say, guys, while you're busy picking out tunes for the band, I've kind of noticed the water is rising. Demographicly, the number one group standing against homosexual marriage are blacks. Not noted as a terribly conservative group. The state that just passed a 'defense of marriage' amendment? North Carolina. Not usually seen as a hotbed of republicans. Neither is California... let us ignore these insignificant facts and pin the blame on conservative Christians. But really, this is important? I mean, compared to the economy, unemployment, imploding state budgets, impending hyperinflation and the death of the dollar, a DOJ that is selectively enforcing, ignoring or making up laws as it sees fit, the TSA/DHS morphing into something that in a bad light is beginning to look like the east german stasi, a president determined to destroy capitalism, a democratic caucus that is openly communist, a drive to subjugate US sovereignity to the UN...

Almost certainly edited, yes? See the edit notation at bottom. Since there's no reason to list an item as already sold. - OS

Nobody should spend 6 terms in the Senate. 2 should do it. About 5 should be plenty in the House, too. Ron Paul has spent over 20 years there. He's a career politician, and hence part of the problem. - OS