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Your opinions are pure and simply that. Both of you have a tendency to have outspoken opinions you expound on, I frequently disagree but also frequently make a point not to play along with your games. Sorry btq96r I don't have any safe spaces, I spent 30 years being spit on, assaulted, threatened and viewing the worst in people. So I'm a bit jaded, but I made a point not to bait people or turn my back on people inciting arguments. I have all kinds of negative opinions on subsequent actions of 9/11 and argued same in training. But I also don't feel the need to post memes or public criticism in a Memorial thread.

The Washington Redskins finally drop offensive name. >> >> Dan Snyder, owner of the NFL Washington Redskins, has announced that the team is dropping "Washington" from the team name, and it will henceforth be simply known as >> "The Redskins." >> >> It was reported that he finds the word 'Washington' imparts a negative image of poor leadership, mismanagement, corruption, cheating, lying, and graft, and is not a fitting role-model for young fans of football

The airline I was flying for on 9/11 furloughed huge numbers of pilots. 9/11 changed my world and my career, but it is nothing compared to what so many experienced. I want people getting screened that sit behind me at 40,000'. Sure it could be done more efficiently and be less of a pain, but it is what it is right now. I don't agree with all of the changes to government and policies that have developed, but the fact is we live in a different world because of islamic terrorists. 9/11 opened the world's eyes to an evil that still seeks to destroy us, and we must never forget what they are capable of. It bugs me that some people want use 9/11 to bash our own county. It is a day to reflect, remember, mour the loss of life and take account of whether or not you would be ready for the next attack.

If I see bill of sale I immediately lose interest. I'll gladly show you my valid HCP and I'll also ask for yours, but other then that, all I'll be willing to part with is my cash. I understand CYA and what not, but I also don't think you need my address, phone, license number, blood type or anything else. That's why we meet in the Bass Pro Parking Lot. Heck, once Monkey and I even went in shopping with a member we met, I got 2 machetes. Totally normal.

Let's make America ROCK again!

You seem to think it's about the attackers. It's not, it's about those we lost that day, it's about the 1st responders, it's about our soldiers. I remember all the domestic POS terrorists, but besides being vigilant I don't waste a second thinking about them, or any of the enemy combatants for that matter. I choose to see my country as the bastion of freedom, and choose to love it warts and all. While I am not stupid to think what we have done has all been perfect, or even the right thing; I still support it. At this point I could care less what other's opinions happen to be on certain issues, such as this and Kaepernick (a POS if you want MHO), we are not going to change our differing opinions, so I'm done wasting bandwidth on it.

I don't see the difference in opinion as "animosity for our country." One can love their country and still seek to disagree with the policies that it's pursuing, that's a tenet of democracy. If Sept. 11th is supposed to be a day to show the terrorists that they won't destroy our way of life, we can't be afraid about where democracy takes us in the course of a debate. As to your 2nd paragraph...sorry (not sorry) if we violated your safe space. But after moments of silence, we needs moments of honesty about what that day cost us. As far as I'm concerned, a part of our freedoms became casualties alongside the victims and the first responders from that day. Speaking out to those facts doesn't mean I don't mourn the lives lost along with the families and friends that were forever changed any less.

The thread was sunk when that meme was posted.

Exactly this. My personal information isn't required by law and is none of your business. I'll show my HCP and/or driver's license but no more.

I don't do bill of sales period. I'm not giving some random person my personal information. It's not required by law and there are plenty of people who will sell or buy without one.

With all of the heavy communist legislation being forced on us lately and it never ceasing to grow here in California, the wife and I have decided to move to greener and freer pastures. My wife is originally from California, but her parents moved to Tennessee about 15 years ago. She spent most of her middle and high school years there. Her parents are in Franklin, so we want to be close by in Williamson County. She likes Thompson's Station/Spring Hill area so that's where we will most likely be looking. It's a big decision for us. We have a 3 month old son and all of our family is here in California. But the writing is on the wall out here and it's time to go. I look forward to living in a state that holds my beliefs dear and somewhere we can raise our son with freedom, peace and at a normal pace of life. My mom's side is from Arkansas, so it won't be a culture shock for me. I am looking forward to hand shakes and hospitality and being able to live the way I was raised. Our plans are to be there next summer. Pay off some debt and get our loose ends straight and we will be good to go. I look forward to getting to know all of your here and to take any advice you may have. Thanks

I will never forget. Spent three weeks in NYC with the Red Cross. The site and smell is with me.

They attacked symbols on 911, not some crappy little government building in OKC. I am not talking about the lives lost. Both events were huge in terms of loss. I'm talking about bashing in the hood of our Corvette (changing the NYC skyline). They were out to destroy American spirit. I think they underestimated our spirit and our response. Good thing it wasn't my finger on the button. I would have busted a couple over Afghanistan THAT DAY, and dared those assholes to fire one round in response. You can bet there was a boomer already sitting in the Indian Ocean.

While people are rightly focused on remembering the foreign terrorists that attacked the US on 9-11, a lot of folks are all too willing if not downright eager to forget the domestic terrorists that did the same. If the day that started one of, if not the greatest assaults on personal freedom in America is not an acceptable time to remember it, what day is?

Will your sole platform be to Kill Em All? Haha

You know, I get the idea of protesting the liberties that have been encroached on and freedoms that have been violated by knee-jerk reactions as a result of 9/11 but what @Chucktshoes needs to remember is that none of us here [likely] enacted any of those new laws or asked for them in the first place. This thread was obviously intended to remember those whose lives were lost on 9/11/01 and it is still valid for that. Let's not sink the thread just because one or two people saw podiums instead of coffins.

I BOS isn’t required by law; but you do have legal requirements. I can only sell to residents of this state and people that are of age; that is required by law and violating that can lead to my arrest. I can’t sell to a person that I know to be a felon; but the law gives me no way to check that other than asking them. If it should later become an issue of whether or not I knew; I have some support. If I don’t know the person I like to have a BOS showing I did what I could reasonably do to meet that requirement. I don’t need to know their address and they don’t need to know mine. So I found a BOS on the net and modified it. It was a short statement saying you are of age, a Tennessee resident, and can legally own a firearm. All the form has is our names and phone numbers with the firearm serial numbers. That’s all that’s needed. I am also concerned with stolen firearms; I hate a thief. If a seller balks at a BOS; I walk. I mean let’s get real here….. If you buy or sale a weapon the other person will at the very least have an email address, should have a telephone number and probably a license plate number. Should an issue arise and the cops get involved; that info will identify you. This is what I use….

Middle TN is a great place to live and business is booming here. It sounds as though you clearly aren't one of these people, but my concern is that Tennessee may eventually succumb to the same fate as Colorado has as more and more transplants from leftist-voting states like California move in and change the voter demographic.

We were remembering the fallen until you showed your butt. I'm not sure what you're doing ChuckT, but it is very disrespectful and has no place in this thread.

Perhaps I miss the point of your post, or perhaps you live in the wrong damn country.

SAT Sept 24th is the 8th annual Green River Gun Club (GRGC) Night Match. IDPA-like match using mostly IDPA rules. YOU MUST HAVE SHOT TWO OR MORE DAYLIGHT IDPA MATCHES IN ORDER TO SHOOT IN THE NIGHT MATCH. (They don't have to be GRGC matches, but we can't "train you in the dark". You must come "pre-trained" in IDPA commands/operations.) Setup 4pm. MANDATORY Shooters Meeting 6:30pm. Shoot at Dark. Categories: 1.) Hand Held Light 2.) Weapon Mounted Light (must fit in holster) 3.) Weapon Mounted Light/Laser (must fit in holster) All targets must be illuminated by the shooter's flashlight before shooting them. We will also shoot a rifle side match on stages 1, 4, and 5 after the pistol shooters on each squad has finish that stage like we have done the last few years. There there will be lots of tight shots, hard cover, and hits on non-threats for those who wish to complain, might as well start now! Five stages. Minimum round count is 68 rounds. For more information and stage descriptions, go the GRGC's website: http://www.bggrgc.com/

3/16" thick 1905 carbon steel, professionally heated to a RC of 59. Jimping and file work on the spine, double acid etched design, black G10 liners, red canvas Micarta and Arizona Mesquite scales with SS pins and a lanyard hole.

You mean it was just a ost about " the boys" with no photo????? Bwahahhahaha Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

America will rock again on November 18th.

Welcome to Tennessee.........but if we EVER hear you utter the phrase "that's not how we did it in California", someone named Bubba will be along shortly to kick your azz back to whence it came.

Make sure to stop in Texas and wash all of that communist filth off your stuff before entering the state. Then you will be welcomed here more than you expected. In this magical land, you can almost own anything you want. No more bullet buttons to thwart training, no more discrimination on your guns based on their race or color. You can burn #### in your yard if you want, and rest easy because the majority of your neighbors will be heavily armed as well (even if they tell you they're not). Welcome!

Your right , I talk of my own experience.

The U.S. Military hasn't been allowed to fight to win since before Vietnam.

My kydex holsters wear the finish off my gun. See that bright spot at the front of my slide, yeah that's steel not white cerakote. Doesn't bother me in the least.

lol, you're welcome

Wow. At that price I will have to pass. Maybe I'll pick up a $5 watch at Walmart on clearance, put it against a good, strong back stop, shoot it with a .22 short and wear it with the bullet through it. Yeah, I know, the watch won't work after I shoot it but I use my cell phone to tell the time, anyway.

Welcome to the free state of TN! Now, DO NOT TOUCH THE TRIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A freedom taken from another American is a loss to me all the same. This is one of those areas where the individual centric train of thought will mean it only matters when it's too late.

I think Hetfield is a hunter too, so he would hopefully be pro-gun. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Just what have you lost? In seriousness, what is something tangible have you lost. I would like real examples. We (me included) like to bitch and moan about what we have "lost". People talk about losing privacy, or this, or that. Do you have a single example of something tangible you have lost since 9/11? I don't consider going through security at an airport a "loss". I go through it as much or more than 99% of the people on here and I don't consider it a "loss of my freedom". I don't even give a rats ass about them knowing who I called. What do I care? I have nothing to hide. I am not saying it makes it right, but for the average American, I just don't see what we have lost because of 9/11. Yes, soldiers have died and families have lost members, but that is not what I am referring to. I am referring to personal freedoms that we have supposedly lost. So just what have you lost?

JCT 1911... Yep, dark beers and IPA are the least temp sensitive and have a richer flavor so I prefer them myself. But I have a lot of admiration for the more advanced, or methodical, home brewer who can craft a fine pilsner beer. My limited experience with home wine making was less then favorable but I've seen people with the most basic of equipment grow their own grapes, raspberries and elderberries and turn out exceptional tasting wine...

Chuck, I've gathered from several of your posts that you have an alternative view of 9/11 and I can respect that, but with that comment, you're just actively trolling. Insinuating that the tragedy of 9/11 is akin to opinions about gender inequality is a pretty effed up. You're aware that it's possible to have an opinion and not share it correct? I think poorly of a few people and their opinions... but they'll never know it because I have enough tact to keep it to myself.

Welcome to TGO and soon to TN. By "SquidBilly" I assume you're current or former Navy. At least "Squid" was always the term of endearment I received from my Marine brethren I had the honor of serving with. As David cautioned, please embrace and assimilate, respect and hold close our God Given Constitutionally Protected Rights and you'll do well. I have a good friend that just relocated to San Diego and he's, shall we say, struggling...May God Bless and help him... I hope you relocation is uneventful and you guys prosper.

You should be issued your shotgun & marlin 336 upon arrival in the state. I moved here from England 7½ years ago (you think you've had it bad.....) & bought my first firearm through an FFL 92 days later. The whole process took me about 15 minutes. It still amazes me to this day how uncomplicated Tennessee makes it to buy through a store & private sales are exactly the same as buying anything else!

There are quite a few gun owners out here. Mostly inland valley, Northern state, in the Sierra and a few places down south. Basically the conservative places. Every gun store has the petitions and guys running the campaign on Calguns are saying the estimates are close to a million signatures. But Prop 63 is already on the ballot and will negate anything done anyways. Brown basically doubled down and signed these laws in case 63 didn't pass. Also, everyone already expects Newsom to be governor next so these proposals will eventually be law regardless. Fighting now is just buying time. The wife and I have already decided to leave by next summer.Hence why I'm here. I'd rather not give my taxes to the communists anymore. They can have this state. It's going down hill fast out here.

I have shown it in the past, being younger and honestly society has changed since then. Now I'll show my HCP, but cover up my address with my thumb. Of all the times I have bought FTF, only twice have I been asked for ID.

Well said.

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy! i heard that somewhere. I save 3 cases of ceramic top German beer bottles when I was there for this purpose. I haven't gotten around to it yet but am getting closer. Keep talking so I can live thru you guys!

I completely agree with you. I've had to stop from posting on this thread. I get so wound up I just want to scream to Heaven over it. And usually end saying some rather unkind things to boot. The lack of respect from our countrymen is mind boggling to me. I was raised to be polite, thoughtful, and courteous of others. Say the Pledge of Allegiance, stand for our Flag and National Anthem. Seems that those values, and many others, have been forgotten.

She finally arrived today..........

I'm not offended, but dear lord their marketing person needs a beating for being that stupid.

I sure would like to see Smith & Wesson get out of there and move here.

Need to put serial numbers on politicians! Just to learn what the heck they do besides mess with the citizens.

Glad you found the problem and also glad you didn't get blown up!

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