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Just making sure you all see this... On Sunday, September 25, 2016 I will be moving the TGO web site to a newer web server. When I do this, there will be a complete service interruption of a few hours. This move will change our site's IP address which means that you all will slowly begin regaining access to the site as your Internet provider's DNS servers update with the new address. If that sounds like Greek to you, just know that it could take anywhere from 1 to 24 hours or so depending on how aggressively your Internet provider updates its records. We have zero control over this, unfortunately, so there is no way for me to speed up that process. Why is this happening? Web servers, much like your computer at home, run an operating system that eventually becomes "end of life" and requires replacement. Think about when Microsoft retired Windows XP and told everyone that it was time to upgrade to Windows 7, otherwise they would stop supporting you. Well, very similar in this case also. Our current web server has taken care of us since 2011, but it is time to move to a new one. I have already moved a few other web sites to the new server and it is doing fine, so I predict no problems with moving TGO. However, TGO is undoubtedly the largest horse in the stable so I am going to be taking extra care to move it. While some performance improvements are possible as a result of this move, that is not the primary motivation. The real improvements for performance are planned for after I get us moved. More on that is to come. I'm going to go through withdrawals! A lot of us will. Be sure to keep tabs on our Facebook page and our Twitter feed while the move is underway. I will post updates on both of those places as I can while I work. If you don't already follow us on those two social media outlets, you can click below and then add them to your bookmarks. TGO Facebook Page TGO Twitter Feed So when exactly does this start? I am not sure of the exact start time yet. You'll know when you see the site go offline and our maintenance notice go up. Just check back in a little while after that happens and you'll eventually be able to sign back into TGO and participate in the forums. Thanks for your patience!

Somebody is going to shoot one of these clowns. And everybody is going to think they had it coming.

Well, fraternal twins. Thanks to Guns N More! Finally got a couple of 10mm!

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Monday the 26th is the first debate. That should certainly test the capability of the new server.

TGO went gay while you were gone. Wearing eye protection took on a whole new meaning.

Because I got a pair of Finns... BWAHAHAHA http://imgur.com/a/HjfGg Got 2 VKT M39s from Classic Firearms. Didn't opt for "hand select" and seem to be in decent condition for the price. Both are 1942, and I seem to have gotten one War time stock, and one Post war stock. The War Time stock seems to have an older action and bolt, and in a little rougher condition. Range report will be soon

I hope I don't offend anyone but I have to rant... Was in line at the Kroger this afternoon and a pair of seriously overweight and heavily tatooed individuals were in front of me w/ their 2 darling kids. I couldn't help but notice all the sugary cereal they were buying w/ food stamps. Being a parent myself I wanted to suggest the "Cheerio's for your 2- and 3-year old might be better choices", I refrained. They bagged up their groceries and then paid for the final 3 items with their Bank-card. A 12-dollar box of Sushi, half-drunk Soda Pop, and a pack of gum. It took every ounce of civility I had not to say something. Folks, I've been there, we've all been down on our luck, but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy your kid's groceries while you take 'your money' and drop it on Pop and Sushi, fer crying out loud..... Send your husband (errrr. baby-daddy?) through the line separate so I don't have to watch you spit in my tax-paying face like that. Gawd! Thanks, I feel better. Rant-off. - Kevin

Award for best thread name for 2016 goes to you. [emoji1]

So after 60+ years they're going to make it so you can take it apart.

They are cheaper.

Just a tidbit of information on how to improve red dots. If they take a 2032 battery and have a intensity knob, not a intensity button, you can swap out the single 2032 battery for two 2016 batteries. It makes the dot a lot more brighter. The 2016 batteries are identical in size to the 2032 except they are 1/2 the thickness so you can double them up. Makes sights that are barely useable in bright sunlight useable.

I'm not certain all of these "clown" sightings are legitimate but do believe some idiots are playing around with fire and are about to get burned.

Just ordered 20 round mags for it. 28.00 bucks!

OK, now I'm hungry.

It's assembled rounds, commercially produced. Stories of problems have made the rounds for years, but I've never encountered anyone who has had one. On several discussions here, I believe the thoughts were that it wasn't a problem.

As a guy who can only identify a computer 2 out of 3 times (an electric typewriter by a TV gets me everytime) I appreciate your work to keep this site top-notch. Thanks for your work

I knew a stripper that used to accept food stamps and .... Meh never mind

This, 1,000 %!!!! It _is_ a way of life, for many. Sum's up the problem entirely. A motivated individual can do almost anything, so we must not be motivating folks. Soup Kitchens should make a comeback! I'd also like to see work-details leaving the welfare office to pickup trash in the street, clean up our cities and towns. You want your check? Report to the foreman at 9 AM, he'll have an orange vest and trash-bag for you. Bring it back full.

I was in Destin all last week and carried a Glock 43 in a G Code holster most everywhere we went except for the times I was fully enjoying establishments such as Margaritaville and the like. Didn't have any issues at all. Only thing that really changed about my carry setup was having to leave my auto knife at home here in Tennessee.

You can't carry in the bar area of a restaurant and from what I understand you can't carry in a place that is strictly a bar or night club. You can drink there while carrying in a restaurant. No gun signs are just treated as a trespass issue. Some good things and not so good like you can't carry at an athletic event legally. Most of the list probably won't apply to you going there for business or vacation unless you are going to a professional sporting event or a bar.

I've prayed for you and your wife, and I will continue to do so. There have been many good comments, and I hope they bring you at least a little solace.

The geeks even take over a Sushi rant thread...........come on! And I love AS400, especially since where I work now trys to use an emasculated SAP system

For those who aren't aware I'm George. (Attempt at humor)

Randall, as other have said there are no words that can help heal your pain right now. Just know that I as a retired Sailor mourn for your lose, our Country's lose and also am angered at the VA. I have taken on the 22 push ups a day challenge that some may see on FB. Tonight I will mention your lose in my push ups. Please know that my family and my church will keep you in our hearts and prayers.

My sorrows also. My heart breaks for you, your wife, family, and friends. Amen to the prayers given.

My lord Jesus, Please make us an instrument of your peace, where there is hatred let us sow love; Where there is injury pardon; Where there is doubt, faith; Where there is despair, hope; Where there is darkness, light; And where there is sadness, joy! Grant that we not so much seek to be consoled as to console; To be understood as to understand; To be loved as to love. For it is in giving that we receive; It is in pardoning that we are pardoned; And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life! I ask almighty God to shower you and your family with His peace, that He send legions of angels to comfort you and He draws you closer to himself

I'm so sorry for your loss. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Reading this upsets me. You did everything you could do. Please don't fault youself for this.

I am sorry for your loss. I know that doesn't help but it is all I know to say.

There's an easy solution to that. Stop eating salads.

Randall, I do not have the eloquence to properly express my heartfelt sympathy for your loss. I am a retired RN from the VA. I have seen first hand the results of a bloated bureaucracy serving their own agendas and refusing/ignoring the reason for the existence of the VA. There are many good and professional healthcare employees at the VA, but if you speak out about the inadequacies, you will become the enemy of a system that will never change, like most all government agencies. I retired earlier than I intended, because I spoke out about those gaming the system, thereby depriving those truly in need of immediate care, and was harassed to the point that I could no longer tolerate the abuses. I pray for your son, that he is now in peace. And I pray for you and your family to find peace.

I've handled and shot The Thunder Five, Taurus Judge and S&W Governor with my preference going towards the heavier Thunder Five. In my personal opinion all of these are more novelty oriented then practical revolvers but others may disagree. Insofar as fit, finish and reliability between the Judge or Governor I prefer the later.

You can imagine how I feel when I see multi-millionaire thugs that won't stand for the National Anthem. I know it's their right, but do your protesting at the voting booth. Not in the face of people like my son. The right of free speech goes only so far, when you begin to step on other peoples graves, I draw a line.

At the very least it seems like some VA administrators, two senators, at least one congressman and the president himself ought to get a letter naming your son by name and expressing our disappointment in your sons treatment from each of the 26,579 members of TGO.

Sorry for your loss. This may sound cold, but your story and my experiences are why I can't advocate for our young people to volunteer to serve. I was a honor graduate and loved my service, even my time in the gulf. Anyone who has ever served knows that sick call is frowned upon, so unless you have a sucking chest wound, you just suck it up. I'm seventy percent disabled, and I live and work everyday in pain. My last two visits to the Memphis VA I was greeted by a friendly little doctor who told me as soon as she closed the door that my current situation was not combat related, pissed me off, then checked my blood pressure which I'm certain was elevated due to the doctor making a decision prior to performing an exam. At that point around 1pm I'm taken to the emergency room where I'm abandoned until my pressure comes down around midnight, and sent home. I filed a grievance and an appeal detailing my experience with the first doctor. I received another C&P exam. If you've had this experience, you know that the doctors have all of your interactions and correspondence with the VA on their computer before your visit. I don't know if it was the complaint that I filled against her co-worker across the hall, but this doctor was worse. She was rude and rushed and blamed my ailments on the fact that I had gained weight since leaving service. She totally disregarded records from other doctors that showed that not only had I sought treatment, but I have hospitalization records for every ailment related to service. I don't want your loss and my response to sound like this is all about me, but I'll use the information to continue fighting, and motivating other warriors not to give up. No one is looking for a handout, only the healthcare services and treatment that we were promised when we volunteered. We are losing 22 a day. Despicable! God bless your family!

Was just there today mainly for something else and lo and behold there were two boxes of Federal Auto Match 350 count. Visible. In the case. 5.4 cents/round counting tax and the ammo fee. Lady said they there was a bunch of it earlier, dunno why there was any left. - OS

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I'm glad this happened. Still waiting on Tennessee to do this but I'll keep waiting.

Sorry Link, I would never bat an eye at a woman buying orange juice, cheese, milk, bread, etc (used to be called WICK, don't know if it still exists) to keep a child fed but when you witness day in day out flat out ABUSE of the system, then it not only needs to be called out but changed. There was no reason that woman at the convenience store needed me and you to buy her Monster drinks and beef jerky, none! No one here would deny a needy person a meal, but to have these folks wrap their lifes around the free stuff that allows them to have their phones, rims, and cigarettes when it was designed to keep them fed is BS! Don't try to defend it, not defensible.

I have to disagree, I don't need to have a conversation with someone that has expendable funds to buy things like pop and sushi, to be pissed off when they break out an EBT card on the side to buy other things. If things are so bad that you need an EBT card, you will not be in a position to have 'extra' money. Make me king for a day and this is the first issue I'll fix.

I've got no words....no civil ones anyway.

You almost have to try them both for yourself. It really can be a matter of personal preference. I always thought the G19, or other compact Glocks, were the cat's meow. But when I went to a department with Glock 22's I actually found that I like the fullsize frame better. The 22 is the exact same dimension as the 17 but in 40s&w. I liked the fullsize for a lot more than capacity. The balance, finger grooves, and the slide length for malfunction clearing all outweighed having to conceal it.

It is kind of a jack of all trades, but a master of none for sure. I have researched them a lot. As far as scandium S&W's go, they are priced reasonably well. The black models appear to all have a Big Dot Night Sight, but the bright stainless does not. I can't think of a more versatile in caliber handgun in production. I read a professional review the 45GAP rounds were the most accurate of all the factory ammo tested. They will not close with 45 Auto Rim cartridges and are not intended to shoot anything over standard pressure. I wouldn't run 45 Supers but I would think 45acp plus p would be fine as it is about the same as some standard 45 Colts. Ruger only loads are completely out of the question. The free-bore of the long cylinder does cause some velocity loss, but I remember reading that it wasn't near as much as I would have thought. I have shot a judge, but not a governor, and find the shotshells really penetrate poorly; even the specialty handgun rounds. The shotshells also leave you feeling really dirty after shooting. I do like the judge with 45 Colt rounds though.

I have several of the Bushnell TRS-25s on various weapons and have been pleased with them. I have other optics as well that cost a good deal more but bang for the buck, the TRS-25 is a decent red dot.

New addition to my full size 40s vintage self loading rifle collection. Finally bagged me a Swedish AG-42b otherwise known as a Ljungman. Here it is pictured with my other three. Top to bottom: 1942 Springfield Garand, 1945 Ljungman, 1941 SVT 40, and an Argentine FN49. . Still on the to acquire list are a MAS 49/56 and the Egyptian Hakim (Ljungman copy). Then maybe a Beretta BM-62 or a Walther K/G43 if I can swing it. I would still love a 41 Johnson automatic too. Again, this is just the big rifles. I have also an m1 carbine and SKS. I'll add a VZ 52 and a Rasheed at some point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The easiest is probably the MOS Glock. I don't have one nor do I have any experience with them. I started carrying an RMR prior to the MOS Glocks coming out. Sending a slide off to get milled is easy and I bet the difference in price between buying a new MOS gun and a used Gen 3 + milling the slide is about the same. I sent both of my slides to One Source Tactical and they did a very good job with the milling. I don't agree with some of their business practices so I will not be sending any more slides their way, but that is completely unrelated to the milling they performed on my slides. The red dot is very practical. I chose the RMR for it's durability and the reputation Trijicon already had for the RMR on pistols. I've also already sent my RMR back to Trijicon for service. It took over three years of use to have an issue. The upgrades Trijicon made to my sight make me believe it will last well past three years this time. I think it is very practical for a number of reasons none of which have anything to do with being one of the cool kids. #1 Your eyes can't focus on more than one thing at the same time. I demand to be able to keep my eyes focused on the threat and deliver accurate fire while moving. The red dot enables this better in every way than iron sights. #2 If my glasses come off my head I'm still combat effective. Note however that I'm far sighted. I'm not sure how a near sighted person would be effected, but I can only imagine the dot would be better than iron sights. #3 I'm more combat effective at night with a red dot. You may note that there is a significant amount of night in every 24 hour period. #4 Long distance shots (whatever "long distance" means to you with a pistol) are now easier with less practice for proficiency. #5 The dot is slow to pick up if you look of the dot. If you draw and look for your sights it is automatically in view. #6 I never turn my dot off and I normally don't use the auto brightness setting and I regularly get a year or more out of my battery. #7 I keep a spare battery and an allen wrench in my grip just in case my battery goes out. I need to order some extra screws to keep in there as well. #8 This is starting to get to be a reach, but racking the slide administratively is much easier with the RMR. It becomes a handle. In a one handed situation it is a big handle that I can rack the slide off of anything with. A wall, my belt, my boot, a car, the floor, the table...etc The RMR does not care what you hit it on. Other things usually care more about being hit with it. There are also some cons to using a red dot. #1 You are changing the slide mass and that might require some tuning. #2 Holster options are reduced. #3 The emitter on the RMR is exposed and drizzle is my biggest concern. Rain is surprisingly not that big of a deal because it flows off the glass and drains out the holes. Drizzle just kinda sits on the glass. I use lots of Rain X. #4 It's expensive #5 It's harder to sell a milled gun. I've never tried to sell one of my milled guns, but I can only imagine the number of buyers is less than for a stock gun. #6 It is ever so slightly larger for concealment. For AIWB I don't think it is a big deal. If someone see's your gun printing a little bit and says something, you just tell them it's a colostomy bag and they need mind their business. Add cuss words to make your point stronger if required. That's all I can think off at this time. If you are near Clarksville I'd be willing to let you shoot my gun before you take the plunge because it is a big investment.

I think you have to ask yourself what you really want. I shoot AR pattern rifles for the most part and I carry Glock pistols so a AR that accepts Glock magazines made sense. It has ran like crazy for around 700 rounds so far without a hiccup. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have a Hipoint 995TS like the poster above. I may have $300 in it all together. It, just like my 9mm AR, has never stumbled. I've fed it every 9mm weight and bullet type I've had and it has digested it. Both can be a lot of fun. Like I said, I think it comes down to what you want and what you want to spend. Pic of my two