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Interesting article from last year. Kaepernick started the protest by sitting on the bench - but then decided to kneel instead after meeting with veterans - specifically to continue to show respect. The analogy was, we kneel when we pray. We kneel when we present flags to the families of fallen soldiers. https://undertheradar.military.com/2016/09/kaepernick-meets-veteran-nate-boyer-kneels-anthem/ This is offered without commentary, but offers interesting insight within the framing of the current debate.

I've made it through 3 episodes so far and can't agree with this statement enough. The two overwhelming emotions are sadness and anger.

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First let me say that the way Dallas did their little protest is the way to go. They did their kneeling then promptly got up and respected the flag and the anthem, good for them. As to my reaction to ANY player who chooses the flag/anthem as their protest, screw them! I don't give a crap about what got their panties in a bunch that day, disrespecting the flag and what it stands for is never ok with me. While I served and fought for those rights, I don't have to like the way they exercise them. Just like the Westboro a-holes, I don't dispute their right to protest, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

I did not think I was going to write anything regarding this topic but I changed my mind. First and foremost, let me offer that disclaimer that I do not really spend any time watching any sport. I'm the guy that someone strikes up conversation with regarding a football game or player and I ask "which game?" or "who's that?". I also will state that I have not taken the time to specifically research the ins and outs as to why certain players/teams are protesting. So with all of that being said, let me say that I fully support them doing so. I believe many here likely, whether they realize it or not, oppose the players' protests because Trump is president. Since you see Trump as being "a good fit", you see any dissent against him or his administration as wrong/misplaced. However, let me paint a conflicting picture. To the people that are "outraged" at the players' protests, how many of you would have been equally "outraged" at any of the following? What if Tim Tebow had taken a knee in response to Obama painting the White House in rainbow colors? What if a group of players protested Obamacare, calls for gun control, etc? Now, there are many faithful and red blooded Americans that do and will always object to any objection to the flag, anthem, etc, but I bet that as you think through the list of possible reasons to "sit out" an anthem, eventually most of you will at minimum understand why someone would do such a thing. Perhaps to you, sitting out an anthem on the same day Obama painted the White House with rainbow colors would have been acceptable because to you painting the White House with rainbow colors was a direction that you did not want the country to go. My point is that in my opinion, one can protest the country, policies, leaders, administration, etc while still loving the country, servicemen and their sacrifices, etc. I do not automatically equate disrespect to the flag or any other symbol as disrespect to servicemen, their sacrifices, etc. It can, but it depends on contest based on who is doing the protesting and why they are protesting in the first place. To disagree with any of the aforementioned does not automatically give reason to leave the country and go to a place such as North Korea or Iran. You can and should be able to disagree with something and then try to encourage though, conversation, and change. In my opinion, them taking a knee during the anthem is a wonderful form of protest. It gathers attention to their issues, is nonviolent, and isn't even inconvenient to others. I would much rather see a team of NFL players taking a knee during the anthem rather than blocking a major highway, becoming violent in DC or any other major city, etc. Obviously the right to protest simply protects protest from action/persecution from the government. That's greatly covered. I also firmly believe that any private entity should be able to hire and fire at their discretion, including the topic at hand. What I personally disagree with is any private entity requiring certain motions/support of the government/flag/anthem, etc. Sure, today, perhaps it is an issue that you care little about. What about when it is tomorrow and a topic you love dearly (freedom of worship, firearms, etc)? I personally attempt to be fair minded towards all respectable forms of protest. To me that basically consists of being non-violent, keeping in mind the property rights of others, impacting the personal rights of others as little as possible, etc. Go stand in the middle of a freeway and block traffic? That's wrong. Stand in front of a tank or set oneself on fire? I respect their right to do so.

The third episode was tough.....that brought back a lot of memories. Our government was so stupid and everyone knew it but yet they persisted.

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There has been enough platitudinous malarkey written here and other places to fertilize Texas... Some of us here (...me, at least...) think this whole thing is part of a bigger issue... That issue is the Post Modern World View that seeks to de-construct everything... period... That includes government (...especially, if it's a republican form of government...), the legal system (...no one should be oppressed, questioned, or detained by brutal police, even if he resists or does something dangerous and stupid; especially if he is "a person of color"...), The Capitalist System (...It's oppressive and some folks get more than others... that aint fair...), White People (...they are the original colonialist, expansionists, oppressors ya know... All indigenous peoples are greater than them...They had a paradise before the white man came...), and lastly; its about "... I don't like the duly elected president of this country and i'll politicize everything in an attempt to make him look bad and spit on everyone of you country bumpkins who voted for him..."; and i may even spark enough civil unrest to undo everything that the 2016 election brought to the USA... We can quibble about whether Trump should have started this conflagration; but it's irrelevant... He did... On a personal basis and from a political standpoint, I think it was a masterful move that allowed him to wrap himself in the flag, tap into the disgust of most working Americans, and call out and expose for all to see the over-privileged babys of the NFL, their enablers, and cheerleaders as what they really are... A bunch of Overbearing, Selfish, Anti-Law and Order, Self-Centered Anti-everything but what they think is appropriate on all levels nitwits... It's playing the "tribal game" that the demorats love so well on his terms... A helluva idea, i think... It paints these clowns for exactly what they are... There are those here who think that somehow their freedoms have been lessened as the result of this feud... I got news; they aint... Just because some official of government (...Trump..) says somethin ya don't like on a personal basis; it doesn't follow that it smacks of "suppression of political expression" and disbandment of "The Arena of Ideas"... Far from it... It doesn't follow that their speech, no matter how heinous and distasteful to some ears, has somehow nullified the Bill of Rights and the Constitution... You enjoy the same right to "speak in the public forum" and be free of government oppression for it that you always did (...except for when the demorats were runnin things... Ask some of the right leaning groups about it that had to talk to the IRS...), no matter what Donald Trump says, and no matter who he picks a verbal slug fest with...He said his piece; they are sayin theirs... That's how it works here with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; which these narcissistic babies, and some of you here seem to think is a one way street... You need to think a bit and understand that right of "Freedom of Speech" in the Arena of Ideas extends to all citizens... Even the president... Think about that a bit... It includes, you, me, "them", even the Trumpster... The lesson here is that there are lotsa folks, some of them here, that need a civics lesson... I aint nearly as afraid of Donald Trump takin away anyone's freedoms, as i am the mindless bunch of children and the damned Democrats and Establishment Republicans takin em away... Your mileage may vary... Thus endeth the lesson... Rantin leroy, the "Free Speech for All" zealot...

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I have given flags when they did not have one to replace a ratty flag. I have spoken to many people about the ratty flag flying being a dishonor. I know lots of family and friends that have done the same. Free speech and protest are great. Have at it. Just choose the proper place and time. During the anthem is not it in my opinion. So you have the right to protest where and when you want but I do not have the right to object? How does that work? Seems like the usual liberal B's to me that refuse any view point other than their own.

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I have been posting to this and reading all the posts and over the last two hours I have watched all the news networks that carried what Trump had to say in Alabama Friday night. I did vote for Trump and would vote for him again over Hillary Clinton. Now with that said. I have the utmost respect for this great country and I fought for it and all it stands for in our Constitution and our Flag is a symbol of that Constitution. The National Anthem is applied and a part of this Country's Legacy and has been around a lot longer than I have and will be long after I am gone. Now with that all said, after listening to what President Turmp said on Friday Night as much as I honor the office he holds I cannot accept his choice of words he used when calling all of the football players a name that is so very negative not only to the players but towards their Mothers as well. I find myself in a catch 22 here as I was siding with the office without knowing the full story. I know that he has never been in politics and he is very raw at times but that is still not an excuse for calling anyone out of their name. I never walked away if anyone called me out of my name if reference to my Mother and to this day I still won't. I can now clearly see both sides to this and even though I have never thought to wrong cannot make a right in this instance I do believe the players maybe more right than the President. I don't believe that they all were protesting for same reason and Colin Kaepernick is but I do believe they did have a good reason for their actions. I won't be burning my football jerseys in protest because I don't own any. I just hope and pray that our country can come together in Unity again and be the great country I grew up in and fought for....................JMHO

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It's not meant as disrespect. They have a problem with something that is happening in our country, and are trying to raise awareness. Kap took a knee in order to get people to ask the question, so he could make a point. It was a well thought out method of raising awareness. What is disrespectful is allowing police officers to kill someone because they wanted to buy a little weed, or they didn't pay a city tax on a single cigarette. That's disrespectful. Its disrespectful that an officer can shoot a man for getting out his wallet after telling him to get out his wallet. That's disrespectful. You even have a good number of veterans, going back to WWII supporting these athletes. Those old guys didn't even choose to serve. They were drafted to die and yet they don't feel disrespected. This is much ado about nothing that will continue to divide us. We can't even say the pledge right now because it isn't true. "...one nation, indivisible, with justice and liberty for all." That's a blatant lie.

You're doing exactly what so many others are doing and, frankly, it surprises me given what I have perceived as being your level of intelligence via so many of your other writings. What I mean by "exactly what so many others are doing" is confusing, perhaps willfully, the difference between the assurance you have that the government won't forcibly deprive you of your right to free speech (the First Amendment) and the assumption that you are guaranteed the same protection from your employer and customers if you choose to exercise your freedom of speech on their time. I agree that these morons should have the right to express themselves without fear of reprisal from our government. That is guaranteed to them and is what you signed up to defend when you took your oath. BUT when these players choose do so on their employer's (the NFL and the team owners) time, and on their customers' (the fans) time... then those other parties get a say in things. The employer can choose to terminate their employment if their actions were counter to the company's ethics and values, and the customer can choose to do business elsewhere. I'm pretty sure you know this and agree with it as well. But for some reason, you chose to make the other connection.

Yep.

I can't quit watching professional ball games over this because I quit watching, listening, or following professional games several years back. I became fed up with the attitude of so called professional athletes in general and lost interest. I have only watched very few collegiate games over the last few years for many of the same reasons. If I want to watch a game where the player is playing for the love of the game and competition I will go catch a high school game. The athletic talent may not be as developed but there is a heck of a lot more heart in the game. Secondly, does anybody remember the baseball strike? Yeah, how did that work out for them. People turned off to professional baseball and it still hasn't fully recovered. NASCAR and professional bass fishing boomed though. Prior to the strike you rarely ever saw a NASCAR race on TV and bass tournaments had not been televised prior to that. Networks had to fill air time thus the launch of both. Now if they want to drop the NFL and replace with, say, Women's Beach Volleyball, then I may become an avid spectator all over again. Providing they properly recognize the National Anthem.

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Can I get a big "Amen"? And is anyone looking for a good canidate to run in his pace? Not my district so I am afraid I can't help much there. Need new blood not just another career criminal to take his place and continue the same old same old.

In my opinion anyone that finds shooting up a place is OK or justified due to their cause is "mental". No way killing innocent people could be considered "Normal". No justification for it in my mind makes it right.

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I haven't spent a nickle on professional game playing in years not going to start now. Had no idea they had to be paid to show patriotism, always assumed sports team were present at the National Anthem. I do understand Colin K's protesting police brutality against African Americans by kneeling during the National Anthem. Here is where it has gone the rails. The folks with the narrative of "we chose national anthem because it represents the systemic exploitation of Africans Americans and preserves the underlying truth, white cops are now the modern overseers of the Black population." Colin's intent and messaging has devolved to a emotionally charged atmosphere of race, entitlement, ingratitude, and mob mentality. If the NFL would support a league wide movement for awareness, hold players to a minimal standard of, "don't do stuff to get the cops called on you," and invest the time off the field of play, they may have more success and positive impact Unless of course, it is only convenient to protest for 3 minutes per week while on the clock.

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+1 As I have said before, them taking a knee in protest isn't what I have a problem with. I have a problem with them taking a knee during the national anthem. I never have, and never will be a Dallas Cowboys fan, but the way they protested, but still honored the Flag and Anthem raised them in my eyes immeasurably!!

Well....., on WLAC Ch5 Delanie Walker just said that he didn't care if anybody comes to the games. ".... And the fans that don't want to come to the game, OK, Bye!" - Delanie Walker http://www.newschannel5.com/news/fans-and-players-weigh-in-on-national-anthem-protest FINE! GOOD BYE!!!!!!

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A friend posted this on Facebook today. It’s relevant to the last few posts. “ First of all, I want to make clear that I always show respect to the flag and have never done anything to defile one. I stand for the anthem, remove my hat. I always will. However, what makes America great is our freedoms. It may be tacky, but it's peaceful and protected first amendment speech. How better to honor our veterans than to exercise the rights, freedoms, and liberties they fought for? And if you don't stand up for the right of everyone to free speech, especially speech you find offensive, one day you may lose your rights to free speech. The point of this post is this: I keep seeing on my feed people putting down these athletes calling them all kinds of negative names and saying they have nothing positive to contribute to society, that they are whiny, spoiled rich a-holes. To that I say I did a bit of research (and I keep up with the nfl year round as if it were my job) and found that these ungrateful scumbag thugs are some of the most charitable people in America, year in and year out for a long, long time. Just from my team alone I found brian orakpo, who raises money and awareness for the leukemia and lymphoma society, sent supplies and help to hurricane Harvey survivors, and has programs in Africa for youth drug awareness and prevention, etc; jurrell casey, who founded the Casey fund, a non profit dedicated to raising money for inner city youth programs, halfway houses, mentoring, and re-entry programs (from prison), helps raise money for big brothers, big sisters of middle tennessee, etc; logan ryan, who founded the ryan animal rescue foundation for dogs with his wife, etc; delanie walker, who is a spokesman for mothers against drunk driving (MADD) and helped lobby for in-car breathalyzers for repeat DUI offenders, has gone on more than one USO tour to support the troops, started the delanie walker gives back foundation which helps inner city and low income kids with educational opportunities and resources like college scholarships, new books for 160 Nashville area classrooms, brand new library for 32 schools, etc; the Mccourty twins raise awareness and money for sickle cell research, etc. This is just a few guys from one team. All 32 have similar stories and each year I see multiple teams host a free thanksgiving meal to area homeless and needy, with the rich, spoiled brat, losers actually serving the food and cleaning up. The guy who started it all, colin kaepernick, has sent millions of tons of food and water to famine ravaged Somalia. Stars like odell Beckham jr. (those who know me know I'm not a fan) fly on their own dime and time to visit with kids in hospitals with all kinds of terrible ailments. My final point: just because these players didn't choose the form of protest you preferred doesn't mean they are savages. Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean they aren't a positive force in their communities. Just because you don't make millions to play a game doesn't mean they haven't worked very hard and made lots of sacrifices. Boycotting is fine if that's what you want to do, but these players have every right to exercise their first amendment rights. No one is saying you have to agree.”

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I don't know about every player who took a knee or raised a fist on Sunday, but Colin Kapernick as put his money where his knee is at least, being named the Week 1 Community MVP even as a free agent. He's been donating to various causes on the way to a total of a pledged million...not an insignificant amount when you consider he may never see another NFL contract again. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/15/colin-kaepernick-nflpa-charity-community-mvp

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The Sunday team reactions were absolutely directly in response to Trump's invective on Friday from 'Bama. Just more from the most divisive president since the Civil War, which is saying a lot after 8 years of BHO. I know most here agree with Trump on the issue, but that's still no excuse for yet another typically tactless and boorish approach that can only foster rancor. - OS

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Not all of the NFL is involved. I don’t think you will see any Dallas Cowboys taking a knee. The Titans should be ashamed and we should be ashamed of them.

I'd say it's because Dylan Roof (white) killed blacks. It's not sensational when a black racist kills whites.

I do recall hearing a LOT more on the national news about the South Carolina church shooting a while back than I've heard about this one.

Mind you, I grew up in Atlanta in the 70's and 80's. The NFL - and what any team does or does not do has never really been on my radar screen. This won't increase or decrease my consumption of the game. But, I do have some thoughts - filter them through the above lens and do what you want with them. When you listen to Kaepernick speak on the matter, it's clear that he knew going in that his protest might cost him his job. And, he did it anyway. I can respect that. A lot of the conversation that I've seen on social media seems to cast the debate in terms of ungrateful being a sort of new uppity. I'm really wary here. Regardless, I expect you'll see the league quit bringing teams out for the anthem before they continue to give these guys a platform. Do with that what you want, I guess. To my own views, I'm church of Christ. So, mind you civil religion makes me kind of nervous anyway. But, regardless I've worked to further this country's goals and ambitions all over the planet - so I've at least some skin in the game. When I look at the flag - what I see represented is the same ideal as represented in the preamble of the Constitution - that 'we the people' continue to strive towards a 'more perfect union'. No one has a monopoly on what that looks like - and it's clear that we're not there yet. This American experiment is still just that. I continue to believe that protest - while rarely a solution - creates room to talk about a solution. I've come home bloodied and bruised, and teared up upon clearing the border as I've heard the words "welcome home" under the US flag. I pray others might feel that same sense of belonging that I too often take for granted.

I've only made it through the first episode so far, but I can tell this is a series that needs to be seen by many. Would that those in positions of power could be swayed by the lessons it has if they cared to listen.

If those NFL players taking a knee think I served in the Army, deploying to Afghanistan and Iraq four times over eight years just to give them the ability to make their statement of protest during the national anthem...they're exactly right.

The hero in this case is the fiancee of one of my church members, Bailey, whom I've watched grow up. He attended our church frequently, and believe they split time between their churches like most couples do when they belong to different churches. He confronted the gunman, unarmed, and got pistol-whipped because the gun was empty when the gunman aimed it at him and pulled the trigger. Courage is not the absence of fear; it's doing what's necessary despite your fear. I'd say that his bravery is unquestionable. The lesson here is to have your gun on your person; not in your car, because it can happen to you!

I don't watch balls games but this is pretty un-American of these players. When I heard of this yesterday, an old song by Merle Haggard came to mind. Like when he says " when you're running down our country , man , you're walking on the fighting side of me"

There are better ways to show or voice your grievances than alienating the fan base that pays your wages. You think they would be smarter than that but apparently not. Instead of pissing and moaning how about getting in to the inner cities and trying to make a difference. When the fans quit coming, stop buying apparel and TV revenues plummet we will see how much they make in the future. I know they won't be making it from me.

I support their right to peaceful protest, I do not support them. I don't care what they are protesting using the National anthem to do it is just wrong!!!!! It shows an utter disrespect for this country and its veterans no matter what they say about how much it doesn't. I will no longer watch any NFL games or purchase any NFL products, and will do my best not to buy anything that is advertised during the games. My way to protest their protest.

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