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Maybe this if you were brave enough to let it get close enough...

That's what you think. Ever seen a little documentary called "Jurassic Park"?

Forgot to post this when it approved. Dead Air Mask on my 22lr. My 11.5 SBR hanging out too

These guys have a little better grip then the guy above.

I still have the Knight that I got from you. It's a great gun, but it's long and heavy. The CVA is just easier to mess with.

Soviet armored car amphibious BAD-2 on rail and wheel

I think that Primarymachine is doing the mill, and I'm sure there must be others. I believe that RDS on handgun will become ubiquitous in the relatively near future, just as they have on rifles and carbines. The amount of research, development and competition in this area is incredible. The greatest challenges seem to be coupling durability, battery life and ease of battery change at this point. A wider field of view should become a reality too as things develop. I believe that the utility has already been demonstrated. Instead of having to have a hard focus on the front sight, the shifting of focus from the target (threat) and back to the sight before breaking the shot ( it's only milliseconds I know) the RDS allows us to focus on the target/threat and know we can break that shot when the dot appears. This was a "lightbulb moment" for me LOL. So, to me at least, this means the RDS system is just as viable up close and fast, and they markedly improve my accuracy at distance where you would have the luxury of time in sight acquisition. In my experience the S&W Shield, Glock 43, PPS, and similar sized pistols are capable of very good accuracy at extended distances... the standard iron sights just aren't as conducive to such...at least to my aging eyes. Lasers offer similar capabilities, but from limited experience can easily "wash out" in bright outdoor lighting. YMMV I am not in any way being argumentative nor dismissive of what @hipower is saying, and I admit "learning" a Red Dot initially takes a bit of practice (Dry fire is your/my friend )... but so did initially learning to use iron sights. And I agree, most defensive use is definitely relatively close. But having the ability to engage the most statistically probable event plus the outlier like an active shooter event can't be a "bad thing" in this day and age. My apologies for the drift/tangent. I'm looking forward to what develops and look forward to hearing of others experiences.

after one range trip with the dot I am sold for all purposes. The main reason I am really interested in this optic is the ability to mount it on a single stack as my primary carry is a shield 9.

First thing to do is stop publishing member directories with names, pictures and other personal information

Yes, you need to know the whole story. Security needs to have all the details on a potential threat. If he's seeking help, then by all means help him. However, if he refuses help, it needs to be made plain to him that he's not welcome. If he continues to come around after a warning, let the Police deal with him. There are some people you just can't save. Unfortunately in today's world, there are people who view churches and their membership solely as future victims.

A little update on those cukes and the trellis. If you do something like I did, put it on the south side of the bed if you can. Because there was another bed in close proximity on the south side of my cukes I had to go north with it (don't want to shade the other bed if the cukes go that far). The plants, of course, will grow towards the sun. Meaning they will tend to lean south. I have to train them (pull 'em back carefully) to the trellis (extra time out there every few days). Had I been able to go the other way they would simply fall on the trellis when they reach too high (unsupported). Otherwise it's working out well.

That is what he said. As soon as I clear this with Sharon???