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I have been watching TGO classifieds for the east end of the state ads trying to find something on my short list to no avail. I started hitting shops in a wide area over the last two weeks and today ran across a Springfield XD Mod 2 4" 9mm with an exceptional trigger on it. It came home with me. I was looking for a Sig P365XL and will continue to look for one at a decent price until one of those comes home with me. I did find that after groping many makes and models there were several that appealed to me and my short list grew longer. One thing I would like to mention is that yesterday I was in Knoxville Tactical. They had more inventory than most and which is part of why my list of wants expanded. Yet they did not have what I needed at this time. A young man in his mid 20s came in and wandered about for a bit and was approached by the store worker, another young man in his mid 20s who asked if he could help. The customer stuttered and stammered at length and the more he spoke the more obvious it was that he knew absolutely nothing about firearms. He openly stated that he was ignorant to firearms, never fired one, never owned one, and had always been anti gun. He stated that he had come to realize that it was time he acquired one and become educated as to safe operation. All of these statements were made in a stammered voice lacking confidence. I tip my hat to the employee who was very understanding and took all the time in the world to question as to intended use in order to provide some suggestions for consideration. I also listened as the employee stressed the importance of training and education being completed in preparation for ownership and offered means for such. The customer became much more comfortable and inquisitive. The young man was still in the store when I left and I feel confident that he was guided appropriately. Never once did the employee display an air of superior knowledge or speak down to the customer, it was more like a "welcome to the fold brother" encounter. This was only the third time I have been in that shop because it is quite a distance from my place. I will return though. I was impressed. So, if anyone on the east end of this great State needs to re-home a Sig P365XL I promise to feed it well.

As far as the first question, I'd have to do some actuarial digging, which I'm not inclined to do right now, so why don't you? The rest, can't debate the unknowables bro. Just using the TN Dept of Health daily stats and dividing by days; I periodically keep annotating that one stat that as deaths/day doesn't seem to be something they publish. Since I already evolved into semi-monkhood in my geezery, prolly abiding better than the average, as has changed my life much less than most I'd posit. Since many of the excuses for walks have vanished (I need a mission to prompt me to do it), started spending time wetting a line on the river, have turned into quite the consummate CarpMeister these days. - OS

Guys, I’m going to ask that this particular portion of the conversation be moved over to the thread @crake started in the politics thread. Appreciate y’all’s cooperation.

Well, I am tentatively planning on being there. My company is headquartered in SpriMo and its very easy for me to get through there. I came to the conclusion a while back that as much as I hate the facts of the matter, we need the NRA. We also need to fix the NRA and the only way to do that is to be an active voting member. So today I put my money where my mouth is and bought a life membership.

Rimfire pistol matches. That’s all I got but rimfire competition is quite poplular.

You had me at Belt-Fed then lost me at everything else.

Anymore, really just bottom fishing, which means 99.2% carp in the stretches of river I can reach on foot. I started in late April at tail end of the spring stripe run, but after that, beat the water to death for bass, crappie, even a mess of bream, pretty much nada. So just settled into bottom fishing, which except for a couple of decent cats has been all El Carpo. Not even drum, which I kinda expected to in the mix. But it's cool with me, sit on the river bank, listen to stories on my Sansa (currently Saki and O Henry), catch a few big uns - 5-15 pounders of any species is still pretty groovy. - OS

I got this article in a Guns America e-mail today. I guy in the UK modified a Ruger 96/44 into a belt fed,lever action bull-pup .44 magnum rifle. Amazing what people can come up with. I thought y'all might find it interesting. Belt fed lever action .44 Magnum Bull-pup

This is completely NSFW but it’s killer bluegrassish, Americana type, not sure exactly what, lol.

Yeah, folks have been feeding them since the place opened. I think the management started doing it originally as sort of an attraction. - OS

In my neck of the woods there has been a popularity for .22 rifle competition for some time now.

Yup. The rimfire bullseye competitions. Plus, it’s just a fun and accurate gun to plink with.

10/11 lbs I reckon. Biggest so far around 15. Heck, I don't think I've caught one at all under maybe 4 lbs. Only reason I got the pic was young lass happing to pass by took it with her iPhone and emailed it to me. Was thinking about that the other day, and honestly, I've never actually caught or or even seen a "baby" carp, or even one in the 1-2 lb range, kinda strange that. About a month ago, was fishing from the floating TN Navy docks and heard much ado down the way from the UT rowing club access, saw a boat pull in there and whatnot. Later on I went by there and sure enough a guy had caught a huge carp, had flagged a boat down to help as no way to lift it out of the water (about a 5' drop from the fishing platform), said the guys in boat had a 50lb scale and it pegged it out, etc. His gal had some good pix of her holding it, and sure enough it looked like a damn grouper or something, half the size of her! I think it was likely a Big Head carp but not positive. TN record for common carp is only 53 lb, but 90 for the Big Head (which is world record also). If it was actually a common, they may well have thrown back a state record! (apologies for the thread derail, should have been in fishing section I reckon) - OS

Would it be more practical to to quickly dismount, (and I have no idea what that looks like) and pull a rifle from a scabbard be an option? The horse is moving, you are moving, your target is most likely moving, getting hits on target in important places with a pistol may be extremely difficult. Once the gunfire starts, how much more will your horse and threat be moving? I am clueless, my vast experience with horses and gunfights comes from the silver screen. If legal, why not a lever action something? Looks way less threatening to others. Does have a cool factor. As it is not a scoped, traditional hunting caliber rifle, so no real hassles from .gov agencies if stopped and frisked. Another thought, if you dismount and neutralize the threat, would your horse run off from the gunfire? If so, how much walking would you anticipate? Is it easier to shoot a handgun or carbine from the saddle? It's looks equally easy for the goods guys as it is difficult for the bad guys, so you got that going for you.

Well, that didn't last long. Hope nobody purchased any of these.... https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-hsi-seizes-website-illegally-selling-weapon-components-silencers-china-us

I love Holosun. Have a few 507green and 510green. Just threw a 507k on my Stacatto C Duo. Happy with the look.

Similar feelings as @Chucktshoes My opinion, the NRA has been less than faithful with our money, so I with held support. Being the only act in town, I recently renewed my membership.

One of the reasons I have hearing protection at the bedside is not from a muzzle blast, it's from the standpoint of blocking out some of the noise from the sirens. I have two internal and one external. I'm of the opinion that it's best to keep the sirens going at least for a period of time. One to alert neighbors, second to keep the intruders a little disoriented until I can react. I've been inside when they're going off and it is quite painful. So that's why I plan to not be so quick to silence the alarm until I know what's going on, hence the bedside hearing protection. Your mileage may vary.

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Well, I'm often walking 4.5-7 miles round trip (half the benefit of doing it at all), so lugging even a light kayak is a bit out of the question. But I agree, a kayak is a great way to do it without all the fuss of boat/trailer, and if fishing should turn back into a main passion I would consider that. - OS

I while back before the craziness hit, I happened to be in Wal-Mart and there in the $5 movie bin was The Big Lebowski on DVD! Darn near broke my arm grabbing for it. BTW: Did y'all know that Dudeism is it own religion? DUDEISM

You need a kayak. I’m not quite as ancient, but I have a blast with mine. It just happens to be an Angler kayak too.

Read the thread title and thought someone got shot in Sullivan County... Good to see it wasn't what I was expecting.

I admire the engineering.

I think still relavant. I don't for one second believe that every item we buy that is even remotely connected to firearms isn't cataloged in some system. Company records, Credit card and debit card logs, even cash purchases logged in on some sort of purchase recording systems. Banking records and such aren't private any, if they ever have been. Oh...it's only for my company sales records. No one else will ever see it. BOVINE SCATOLOGY! For the last 20+years at least...Big Brother, aka our own government officials have kept track of our actions. Phone taps, online devices recording key words and phrases, our neighbors even! We are watched from cradle to grave. With records to match every action. Mobile cameras, traffic cams, insurance devices to monitor your car AND your movements. Police cams. Heck supposedly our own smartphones, laptops, and dinosaurish PCs. All can be watched and recorded. The camera links on these devices, the data millions of us willing send out in stupid, insipid photos, tweets, and whatever other method is in vogue today. Not trying to be argumentative, I just don't believe the privacy we think we have actually exists anymore. Ok. Emotionally spent. No more today. Ranting done. Maybe.

True, but e-file form 1 stamps come back in weeks, not months/year.

From an officer I personally know, while he was working undercover he deployed his .380 with hollow points to shoot at a perp through a windshield. I do not remember the flavor of the ammunition. The rounds lodged in the windshield without fully penetrating. We later got a cracked windshield from Safelite Auto Glass to run our own tests. Although various hollow points had variable results with penetration, some going through the windshield from roughly 3-7 yards and others not penetrating, even in some cases rounds from the same box of ammo, ALL of the ball ammo penetrated the laminated glass and burst the plastic jug of water placed behind the glass. We also had some fun that day testing various rounds of ammunition on ballistic drywall we had gotten a scrap piece of from the construction of the local VA hospital. That ballistic drywall is amazing stuff. I'm not sure what it says though for the amount of money spent to do the entire lobby of the VA center with that drywall, yet I digress...

Len Savage at Historic Arms in Georgia has done some full and also some semi MG42 builds. Because the receiver is one long piece of stamped steel, it is a real bear to weld together sections and get it perfectly straight. And if it is not straight and correct, it will be a 24 pound manually-operated rifle. Many years ago I had a friend who would let me fire his WWII MG42 quite a bit. I also had the opportunity to get some instruction on the MG-3. Properly handled, it is a devastating Light/Medium machine gun. In the hands of your average Snuffy, it will just waste ammo quickly. The MG-3 and the MAG58/M240 are the best LMGs around. Bar none!!!

One of the biggest disservices done to new shooters and non shooters by ignorant gun salesmen is recommending the tiniest, hardest kicking , hardest to shoot accurately gun in the store because" it does not weigh too much for the little lady and it will fit in your purse" and usually when recommending a J frame it is "simple to operate and not as difficult to use as an automatic"..... You know what's NOT simple to operate? A car. And virtually all of these people can figure out how to get in the car, stick a key in the ignition, put it in gear, back it out of their drive way, use a turn signal (sometimes....) turn the wheel and apply the accelerator to move the car up and down the road, maintain a steady speed, apply pressure to the break to make it stop when they need to and check their mirrors when changing lanes. So even though their wife/mother/girlfriend/whatever somehow manages to move their one ton motor vehicle to and from work, the mall and church with monotonous regularity (often while texting and reading facebook at the same time) and they probably drove a car TO THE STORE they are apparently too stupid to operate a midsize semi auto pistol? REALLY? Buyer beware. Salesmen are good at what? Selling . And more times than not the experience level of those manning the gun counter and pertinent relevant experience with the products is not much more than the experience of the customer.

That is exactly why a buyer should go to a rental range and try guns out, or go with others with similar guns to try. Ignorance wastes a lot of money, both on buyer and seller sides.

There are some whoppers and lots of them around Calhoun’s deck. Must be raised on that bbq that’s not fit for human consumption.

No coffee yet. I read that without the decimal and thought “45-47 miles? Dude, that’s not fishing that’s hiking with a small break in the middle”.

I seemed to have used up my image allocation. Not sure how or if it gets restored. I don't have many gun photos that I can squeeze down to 30kb or less.

I agree with your wife. You need at least 15 mags.

Plumbers say that about sh*t

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