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We do our absolute best on TGO to put the best face forward, welcome all manner of diversity in our members, preach that the 2A is for everyone, bequeath the love of responsible firearms use and ownership to the next generation and motivate folks to do their individual yet massively impactful "small part" by voting for Pro-2A legislation and legislators. For years the number of us who are willing to do what @TripleGGG described and write and call and email and petition the lawmakers to preserve the Second Amendment has been an abysmally low percentage compared to the overall tally of people who have bought guns during the same period of time. People prefer the convenience of writing a check or keying credit card numbers into a website to send the NRA, GOA, 2AF, JPFO, TFA and FPC off to represent them. While TGO's population may be very different and out of the norm, I know in my gut that most gun owners, at large, want to outsource the work because it takes too much time to make phone calls, send emails, write letters, and visit politicians in person to ask them to represent us according to our wishes, our values and our interests. But these same people will spend countless hours on the Internet scouring the buy/sell/trade pages for a new gun or stand in line, in the rain, for an hour before a big-box retailer opens just for the slight chance they might get to buy some ammo. Gun owners will spend HOURS on the Internet arguing with each other over terminal ballistics, whether a shoot they saw in the news was "good" or not, or whether open carry is a good or bad idea, but they won't spend a half hour sending emails or making phone calls. We, the supposed 2A Community, have obsessed over the wrong damned things year after year. We've voted for representatives from the political party that is not only renowned for pushing gun control but makes it a speaking point for their platform and openly TELLS us what they want to do to the Second Amendment, because "Orange Man bad". We've voted for independent candidates who didn't have a chance in hell of getting elected, splintering the vote for the candidate who could've, and rejoiced in taking the moral high ground while just a little further downhill the ground we bought was eroding out from under us. As a whole, the 2A Community sucks at defending the cause we supposedly care about. We suck at making it mainstream because it's more fun and edgy to strap a rifle across our chests and scare the soccer moms watching a gun rights rally from the sidelines. We suck at making it inclusive because we don't want to welcome the gays or the blacks or the browns or the atheists or the Muslims to our table. We've forgot that welcoming isn't just an adjective but also a damned VERB. And so, we've lost ground. Countless times we've lost battles in this war to preserve an essential Civil Right because we can't agree on the specifics and don't understand that a good-enough plan executed NOW is better than a perfect plan executed NEVER. We are so independent and libertarian in our thinking that we've become near-sighted and unable to see past what's good for us as individuals and see what's good for our community. We haven't made the Second Amendment palatable, let alone relevant, to the undecided centrist voter because we don't consider that they are more likely to vote against a cause that isn't important to them if pop-culture tells them it's evil, bad and scary and they don't have anything else to go on. We've pissed away opportunity after opportunity to educate, inform, evangelize and expand the 2A Community. We've even pissed away chances to defend it, ourselves, by just making phone calls or pulling the correct lever at the polling booth even if it felt a little like being a "single issue voter" at the time. I really hope we've still got a chance to save the Second Amendment. I think we do. But it's time for the bull#### to stop. We've got to be more present, more polite, more professional, more compelling and absolutely light up the phone lines and email inboxes of not just the politicians we've voted for but also the ones we've voted against. If we live in their district, they represent us - like it or not. We need to remind them, without threats or bravado, that they work for us and this is what we, their constituents, expand and demand from them: NO MORE GUN LAWS. DEFEND THIS CIVIL RIGHT. If we can't do this... we've asked for it and it isn't going to just blow over. They're going to come for your guns and if you refuse to comply, you will be forced into poverty from the fines levied, be sent to prison, or worse. The game isn't over, but it's absolutely underway. Get in it.

I ain't buying no neutered mags. I did buy 10 more standard capacity G17 mags, and a few more AK mags (already set on AR mags). I'm betting on a grandfather, and no law enforcement (at least in red states) is eager to start going door to door to round anything up. My local Sherriff has already said he flat out won't do it, and will hinder any efforts by the State or Feds to do the same.

My physics professor in college had an early heat pump. He said when he saw that emergency heat light come on he knew he was going to be eating peanut butter and jelly.

The cause of many groups these days is the destruction of capitalism, the end of free speech, retribution against anyone that doesn't completely agree with them (especially if they are white), and replacing law and order with anarchy. Why would any sane individual help them in that cause?

After about 20 hours of head scratching, welding, machining and alot of space drifting on just how this non conventional action functions, I finally got this in shooting condition. Its a GB "parts" gun i bought recently but some guy got my top dollar in the final tally of just over 3 bones. A bit much for a gun that was missing the ejector assembly and cylinder pin, cracked grips and with rough bore but it was one of those oldie challenges I'v never had in front of me before. The good part is the 38 Long Colt uses a 357 bullet and to my surprise, 38 spl brass chambered right up. So thats off to a good start. These guns are know as the Billy the Kid guns since he was killed with the 41 cal version of this frame as his own EDC. The DA action is a unique design but a some really bad design work is what gives these guns a bad rep in the reliability category. It all revolves around a cylinder lock up lug that engages the cylinders at the chambers face rather than the out side barrel of the cylinder. This rather stupid location puts the frame lock up lug side by side with the cylinder ratchet hand. And the hand is one of the weakest designs I'v ever seen, more akin to a early H&R DA...if that. The hand spring is a delicate little leaf along with the DA hammer link spring that rides sandwich style inside the trigger. Its no wonder a little ware and tear will take place sooner rather than latter with the internals so weakly sprung. In this particular case, the original springs were still in the gun except for the trigger rebound leaf. It was some ones creation that cracked after about 30 or so cyclings. I made up a new one and added a second spring wire into the frame to help out the cylinder lock up lug. The cylinder had about .010 too much end shake so I welded up the front spindle and recut it to fix that issue and made a new cylinder pin. The hand also needed a dot of weld to get the cylinder up in time. The bore looked pretty bad. So I did my ultimate clean up job by wrapping a bristle brush with course steel wool and scrubbed the hell out of it. That action actually put the lands back into view by scrapping the rust off their surface's. The grooves were still frosted dark but no serious pits. I figured I had a 50/50 of key holes out of this pipe. The CCI aluminum cased 158g LRN rounds I have needed to have about 1/8th" of lead ground off the tip so they would comfortably fit the chambers. The CCI rounds are a bit hot for this 1904 made gun, but with a little less lead, that helped it along. I was pleasantly surprised to print this 2" group off a rest at 12 yards! And the bore didn't have any visible lead captured! Getting this action to time on both single and double action movements was alot of fun since being a parts gun, they wern't even close. . A really good learn on these historic guns. The second shot is a size comparo with the big 44 and a Uberti Stallion. Oddly, the Stallion is a near perfect frame size replica of the Lightning.

All you have to do is look at the past year. When Antifa and BLM were rioting, burning, looting and even murdering people, the Democrats turned a blind eye or even encouraged it. But when protesters came knocking at their door, they're bound and determined to find and punish every last one of them. They only care about there own butts. That's what gun control is really all about. More power for them and no power for the citizens.

Hello! My wife and I are planning to move from the Atlanta area to somewhere in Southeast Tennessee, maybe within 2021. We don't like the shifting political climate in the Atlanta area, and in fact the direction of the entire state of Georgia, crime is going up, and as my wife puts it, it's too "peoplely" around us. We are both strong advocates of conservative values and the 2nd Amendment, are handgun shooters -- the wife for self-defense and me also for sport -- and I'm a NRA Life Member. I joined to start learning about the state of the RKBA and shooting in general in Tennessee, and maybe continue as a resident.

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I can't devote 90 minutes to this but I made it to around 30 minutes. It's more of the same "us vs them" from Justin. According to him, you can't be part of the gun community unless you voted for Trump. He said that around the 16 minute mark. Rob nailed it. You can either be a group that welcomes in new people or we can continue to be a group that's 95% middle age white guys. No offense to anyone here, but I think we can all agree that's who makes of the vast majority of the gun culture. We have 1-2 black members here. People like Colion Noir are rare, and we need more of them. Now, there are plenty of non-white gun owners out there, but we don't exactly do anything to bring them into the fold. This latest attempt by Fenix just creates more divide. All of this has been discussed on the forum before so I'm going to leave it at that. I can't say more without breaking the TGO rules.

and also there is no obligation to get into a confrontation/fight. If one has a reasonable means of escape or avoidance then take it.

I'm not turning on emergency heat until the temp in the house starts dropping. as long as your unit is maintaining set temp let it be.

I live in an all republican district, but I would point out that, unlike the Republicans, Democrats have voted en bloc on every major law and action from well before Obama was in office IIRC. They think that their vision of America is supported by the constituents that elected them into office to begin with; therefore, THEY VOTE WITH THEIR PARTY and thus do not give a what you or I say. Even Democrats that live in a closely divided electorate have voted en bloc, i.e. Manchin. They all do polls of their constituents to see were they sit on issues, so don't think that if the majority of their constituents support "common sense" gun control that they will consider your rights when they vote for the law. The only thing that gets their attention is when the people fight back - hence the barbed wire-topped fence and National Guard soldiers surrounding the capital building.

I have well over 100 emails and untold phone calls, etc just since the election. If you are sitting on your hands doing nothing then you have no right to complain or act surprised. Kinda like the ammo situation. And if you think playing nice, being reasonable or any decent thought processes are going to work then you've already lost. We've been at war for a long time. Many just don't want to a accept that fact. If you think Trump is who was hated you've not been paying attention. This group hates me and any other 2A defending, conservative, patriotic citizen. And I'm not talking just about the Democrat party.

Those were her exact words. I’m making up for thirty four years of spending everything on children. I’m having my second childhood. Now I’ve got to get some of those cool items you have.

Bring it by if your in Crossville some day and I'll let you pop a few rounds threw mine. Smokeless rnds are fine in reduced loads. The CCI Blazers are not top loads to begin with but still too stout for any continued use. I dont have my dillion put together yet to load so I'll cut the nose off the 158g & make wad cutters out of a few. Taking a 158g down to like 110 should take a notable percentage of chamber pressure down. The hand/ lock spring in mine were not holding spring very well. I heated that dual leaf up untill purple and quick quenched. That helped alot but not enough for the lock lug. So I milled out some extra space and put in the second spring and bingo, works pretty snappy now. Other wise, the cylinders flew right past the lock up nearly every DA pull. PS, a bit more on the loads. The original 38LC BP load was a 150g stepping out at about 700 fps. The CCI's are 158g at 755 fps. Now the big difference is in how pressure is built between BP and nitro cellulose powders. Modern powder "makes" oxygen when it burns so its pressure gradient spikes very quickly while BP builds pressure much slower over the length of bore. Thats why nickle steel was introduced as a smokeless steel since its tensile strength so to speak could with hold the greater shock impulse of smokeless. That said, its written pre 1900 made colts should be kept to BP to be on the safe side of pressures but mine is a 1904 model. Also, the post 1890 38LC has a groove diameter in the range of .370 + (mine measures at about .367) for use of 357 diameter hollow base slugs that blow into the larger groove diam. So here again, a solid lead 357 diam bullet in a 367 grooved bore is certainly not going to give max pressures from the git go.

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I found this site while searching for bersa thunder grips and joined immediately.

Not to belabor the point too much, but bear with me. In 1997 if you only had 10 mags and a preban mag was $100+, then rebuilding magazines was a reasonable option. In 2020 when you can buy single magazines for as little as $10-12, or have 100 magazine cases drop shipped to your house for $8-900, there’s no reason to spend the same amount on rebuild kits. Don’t overthink it, just buy more mags. This is mostly focused on AR mags, but Glock mags are cheap and readily available right now as well. Most damage that renders a magazine unusable is to the body itself. It isn’t the follower or spring wearing out. It’s the body cracking, denting, or feed lips deforming in some way. Buy more mags. If you have guns with expensive mags, buy one or two as you can. If they’re out of stock, set up alerts with the various retail sites. (Gunmagwarehouse.com) Buy more mags.

When stuff like this happens and our redneck comes out, it just makes me smile.

I hope everyone is staying warm and safe.

Hey, you forgot the token Hispanic! I can see both sides of this; on one hand I am all about getting more people into the shooting sports, self defense and defense of our Constitution. But at the same time, I can see making them feel the pain of exercising one of our basic rights due to the people they put into office making it so. Maybe if they start seeing what we have been made to put up with all these years, then maybe they will start to see what the consequences are when they vote the way they do.

I just leave mine on auto and let it do it’s thing. It’s been doing that for 18+ years. We’ve been comfortable, and I can’t really complain about the electric bills. I wouldn’t have anything else. (I grew up cutting firewood.)

If you look at most of the wording IRT a Sanctuary Law, it mostly reads like the above. A state will not stop the Feds from enforcing a law, they will just not help it. Like the immigration sanctuary states, the Feds can still come in and get illegals (well last admin anyway), but were prevented from using local LEO as backup.

I have a few of these. Figured I'd let others get some too.

I have a mini-split system which has no auxiliary heating elements at all, and is 100% efficient to 0 degrees F. That probably doesn't help jhc77 much, but if you're considering replacing your old system, the new mini-splits work great and cost a lot less to run. They are more expensive up-front, though.

jhc... Just let the unit run on its on. I know this sounds crazy, but a heat pump is nothin but a " switch hittin " air conditioner. The condenser and evaporators change jobs depending on " cool " or " heat ". They are efficient as anything down to about 25 degrees. Below there, they still work, just not as efficiently as gas furnaces n electric furnaces. The problem with them is that the heated air feels cool. Dont worry, it aint. The few degrees above the set temperature will keep the house warm. They work very well, they just aint warm like a gas furnace or a fire place. When ya turn on the " Emergency Heat ", ya are simply addin a electric resistance heater to heat the air more than the heat pump circuit does. As others have said, resistance electric heat is very expensive... stay warm... leroy... PS... We are electric heat pump folks too...

2021 Kawasaki TeryX LE 800 Yellow. I had to get a sxs. My knees and back couldn’t handle the abuse of an atv. Old man problems. It also comes in four door for a couple grand more.

Modern heat pumps operate better at low temperatures than older ones - but the fundamental problem remains - there's just not much heat to pump in from the outside if you will. Somewhere in the 25-30F range is typically where running the heat pump isn't going to really be efficient anymore. If your heat pump automatically switches over to auxiliary heat - it likely knows where that efficiency point is and fires up auxiliary as needed.

Exactly. That was my point. The question is about as useless as sticking a no guns allowed sign on a door. Biden voters can easily just lie and buy the ammo. The business just wanted the attention this would bring I guess.

Always is, LOL

Because people won't just lie and check the box anyways? I guess their ultimate goal was to make a statement.

Day two of driving from one end of Nashville to the other. So far it's much better and less police. The traffic signals are having issues. Power is off in places and the only places to eat are Mexican restaurants and a Jimmy John's. Funny, after hours in 9° to 12°.....it doesn't feel that cold anymore.

I've always been interested in the old 1877s but have never read anything from someone who has figured out how to work on them. Thanks for sharing your insights, xtriggerman. Cheers, Whisper

@gregintenn - Done. I'm now an annual member of TFA.

I threw another $25.00 to GOA. Why not.

From the graphic and the size of safes you're describing i wouldn't give it another thought. With either stacked entirely with ammo i doubt you would see any structural long term damage.

I have a 875 and a 550 side by side in my closet on a exterior wall, the floor joist are parallel with the wall, been there for years

I wouldn't worry about it.

All actions taken by the government in the week before the inauguration, the quick pivot of the Biden / Harris administration from duplicitous cries for "unity" toward the narrative that the window of opportunity for the GOP to "work with us" was closing, and the continued presence of miles of barbed wire-topped fences and armed troops manning them in Washington DC has told me all I needed to know about where this was headed. Biden and Harris and the Democrats entrenched in places of power want us disarmed. Period. NOW. Conservatives are now all racist, White Supremacist, radical Far-Right, separatist, secessionist, militia thugs with Weapons of War and the blood of children on our hands. We must be disarmed immediately for the safety of society, and they are gearing up to use force to do it. The reality is that they don't give two ####s about the children, otherwise the lives of unborn children would matter to them. The reason they want your guns is because of the reason that our founding fathers thought you SHOULD have them. Any of you who have sat on your hands and not written, called, emailed or visited your representatives at the State and Federal level need to get off your asses and do it. Contact the Democrats and the Republicans. They BOTH represent you if you live in their district. I think people often forget that and only contact the party they vote for, which is just dumb. Engage both of them. The time for this option is what's coming quickly to a close. Once the Federal Government passes legislation and sends troops or police who are just "following the law" to come seize your property from you, it's going to be too late to call that politician. Do it. Now.

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I feel for yah..... for 38 years I voted the NRA pro gun line in NY and in the end, didn't mean jack... The big cities are like cancerous sores that bleed the liberal infection into their burbs at first then the state its self falls to its stench. Its a certain form of depression that you can't explain unless you actually lived in it. I pray TN never, ever lets its guard down but even here, its brewing. Its small things like the state contracting NPR to provide school programming of sorts. There's naive politicians about every where these days. That said, Welcome. Retiring here was the best move of my life and hope it may be yours as well!

I’ll take y’all’s word for whatever condition they’re in. I’m fortunate that I shouldn’t need to go anywhere.

Hey! With Biden’s latest initiative, I’d say we could use as many millennials as possible on our side! And of course Glocks are cool!

I recall being told by TGO prognosticators that we that believed he would immediately start pursuing gun control were in a bubble and he had more important matters, healer in chief, children back to school, whoop covids ass, and gun control issues wouldn't come until the mid terms. Sounds to me like he wants it NOW

It'll depend on road conditions. Employers are very cautious about sending a fleet of vehicles out on dangerous roads. Shutting down for the day is cheaper than paying for damaged vehicles, injured people and lawsuits.

Elections have no consequences when you cheat to get there. And continue cheating to quiet the people.

Funny how differnt states do things. I too was surprised by the TN system when I moved here as TN was supposed be "a freedom state". Simpe things like in Idaho where I moved from, if you had a concealed carry permit, you didn't need a NICS or background check. You filled out a 4473, handed them your permit, they wrote the permit info down and put "NA" for the background check. Gave them your cash and away you went. This is how it should be in a gun firendly, free state.

I was on another gunsite and Pm'ed a guy from Mississippi that claimed his LGS had gotten a big shipment of primers last week. He said that the store had kept some in the back and were limiting purchases to 200 primers. Then about a week later they got 100K of CCI srp and 100K Federal spp. They were selling for $69.95/1k with limit 1k. Just to let ya'll know that some stores are getting something. That is a little re-assuring.