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I appreciate the information and sharing your opinion @MacGyver. Education and training such as yours is much needed in the public debate surrounding this issue. I am not a trusting-by-nature type person, polar opposite in fact. There are several issues surrounding these medications (gene therapy, its NOT a vaccine) that I take issue with, the simplest being the blatant coersion. It ties in with my mental wiring of not trusting people. I _really_ don't trust people who try shoving something down my throat. When someone deliberately mis-uses language (its NOT a vaccine) to foster a sense of comfort, that right there is an Orwellian red flag use of Newspeak in my book (otherwise known as propaganda). "Mostly peaceful riots" That stuff gets my radar active. Kinda like when someone looks up and to the right when you ask them a simple question - you know they're about to lie to you? Things like that set off triggers that predispose my attitude towards something/one. If I catch you doing that (looking up/right), everything you say is immediately suspect. Ditto any use of Newspeak - it tells me you're either an idiot who doesn't understand English, or you are trying to manipulate me with language. Either one creates a very short conversation. Stir in all the other factors surrounding Covid, and you have a giant stew of stay-the-####-away-from-me. I understand the public health implications of a percentage of the population being unvaccinated, truly. All of that blather about doing your part falls on deaf ears here, as ones opinion of the severity of this disease outbreak predicates the need for vaccination. If one were to be of the opinion this is 'a bad flu', or some such shade of gray thats short of 'global depopulation event', than the need for mass vaccination doesn't even exist. In that context, suggesting I HAVE to get it throws another red flag for me. (I'm not suggesting @MacGyver is trying to tell me I have to get the jab, merely pointing to the current media message). This is why when the world + dog says "oh won't you think of the children!" I find myself scratching my head and asking why, and who benefits? Useful life skill right there folks.... And once you start down THAT rabbit hole, well, lets just say that its the entire foundation surrounding the current situation I'm just not comfortable with. The whole topic has taken on so much more than a medical debate about thresholds and treatment protocols. I wish that weren't the case, but the world we live in isn't black and white. Had the issue not taken on a political dimension, had the media and fedgov not viciously attacked and tried banning anything not following WHO orthodoxy, had MD's and scientists like yourself not been fired/cancelled/blacklisted/banned for simply suggesting alternative therapys to the jab, I might play along in a few years after more testing and data analysis can take place. On that we most certainly agree: we are about to get a very large pool of data to work with. I do hope my fears are unfounded. If I am wrong, that would be great! If I'm right however... I'll ask a rhetorical question, its a simple test to ask yourself, anyone can do it, but as a scientist (I don't know what your specific field is, but its irrelevant assuming you're not at retirement age or independently wealthy): would you publish a research paper you did on the effectiveness of Hydroxycholoroquine, Ivermectin, and Vitamin D therapies against Covid infections today? Guess how I know you're over the target?

More importantly, ask why are you not allowed to talk about it? Why are YouTube videos and articles being memory-holed? Why are Dr's and scientists blackballed when trying to get the word out? One side shuts down the debate by saying "the science is settled!" Again with the manipulation of language... The very fact that one side wishes to debate, would indicate the science is in fact not settled. Rather if one is interested in 'science', they should welcome rigorous debate and probing questions. True science is never satisfied, constantly probing further, testing and re-testing hypothesis'. We all KNEW the Earth was flat at one time, and the sun and stars orbited our home. The science was settled.

I believe that you believe this. My doubt is that it is actually factual. Just as Al Gore stood to make billions off his carbon bank scam, you’d be hard pressed to convince me that political folks like Faucci aren’t positioned to profit from this vaccine. Further, you’d find it really difficult to convince me that it was as big an issue as the government and media made it out to be. If the medical community can solve this problem in a year, I don’t understand why we still have cancer and the common cold, other than the fact treatment is more profitable than a cure or prevention. If I’ve learned one thing in this life, it is that when there’s a considerable sum of money involved, somebody’s getting shafted. I’m glad to see that everyone isn’t as cynical as me.

Would you believe me if I told you the speed in developing these vaccines was due to cutting bureaucratic red tape and removing the funding delays that typically slow things down? That’s how we got it from an average of 12 years down to 11 months. I’m not a public health person - but I am a scientist - and I can say confidently that there’s not been a vaccine developed since they started blowing dried pustules from cows into open lacerations on people that has been done in a more open and public manner. These are literally the most advanced vaccines that have ever been made. And with the success of the mRNA technology that Moderna and Pfizer have brought to market - if you pay attention over the next ten years you’re going to see advancements against diseases that have plagued humanity for hundreds of years. Moderna has already gotten good phase I results from a malaria vaccine. That has the potential to change the world for the better. Now to testing, I get the hesitancy over the EUA. It was a trade off to combat a disease that went from zero to a top 3 cause of death in a year. Is there risk there? Yes. But it’s a measured (and closely monitored) risk with limit stops in place. You saw the J&J vaccine get paused to study the risk of certain blood clots. That’s the system working as designed. The process to full FDA approval can’t be shortcut. There is data required that has path dependencies that are time based. We need six to nine months to collect those samples. On the plus side, we’ve got a huge pool to draw from - so that path should be shorter rather than longer. I know there are talking heads who are saying these were rushed, not designed well, and not tested. Of course there was a rush - but there is a robust testing process that is working. You can see evidence of that by the vaccine candidates that didn’t move forward.

And not made mandatory by coercion and intimidation.

I decided to throw on a Brisket this morning on my new Pellet Grill. Got everything going around 8am. Now I'm setting back and enjoying the wait.

GREAT KOOZIE!

What ever man needs!

BNIB Ruger SR1911 Commander — made in 2012 —

Raising funds for AC repairs...for sale only Complete upper: -Noveske marked Vltor upper -LaRue 18” stealth barrel -Daniel Defense Lite rail (14”) -Bravo Company bcg assembled by professional gunsmith and then stored-never fired (unless test fired by builder). Should make a pretty accurate shooter with the LaRue barrel. Asking $1000, face to face in Sumner. Not for sale separately but if buyer of upper would like the complete rifle... Lower is a Noveske N4 billet with -NOS DD lpk -LaRue single stage trigger -LMT sopmod stock (only major part that was used before build) I will add the complete lower for $600. Buyer must be a tn resident and sign bill of sale Buyer also has option to buy the Leupold mk4 1.5-5 scope in qd Bobro mount for $600...will not sell separately. **the bipod/qd mount in picture is not included. all transactions must occur in sumner/Davidson county, preferably in Goodletsville area. This will be listed on other forums after today. thanks for looking! -Dave

Virtually new. Bought last year and taken to the range maybe 3-4 times. Firearm works perfectly, just decided to focus on other guns. Comes with 4 x 30 round magazines and 1 x 20 round magazine. Includes the arm brace installed as well as the original blade brace that came with it. Ambi charging handle. FTF Transaction in Murfreesboro or Madison. $800

Some folks weren't as lucky. Unfortunately, the politics around this thing were probably more toxic than the disease. I am not real concerned about the safety of the vaccine. And, I'm not all that scared of Covid, even though it would probably kill me. The main reason I got vaccinated was so I can use the Kat Timpf quote, "I'm vaccinated, so f#ck off".

I understand that some folks are making money off of COVID. Some directly, like the big pharma...others indirectly like the insurance companies who had a lot less claims to pay out in 2020, and those who benefited when work from home went big (Amazon, Zoom, Microsoft). On the inverse, a lot of companies took it on the chin like the airlines, hotels, food service industry...so it balances out somewhat. I readily admit government stimulus tipped some scales here. What I was trying to say is, as a society, we've been able to understand and keep diseases at a manageable level where they are aren't a threat to everyday interaction writ large. COVID shut everything down because we didn't know anything for sure in the beginning aside from how contagious it was, how it stayed in your system for a few weeks, and for some it kept them in a state where productivity wasn't happening. The common cold, while transmissible in many ways similar to COVID only takes you out for a day or two, could be mild enough where you just need a day or two at home and you're better. Whereas COVID infections last for almost two weeks, with some varying degrees of how it hits you, and possible lingering after effects. Cancer, hideous as it is, isn't transmissible person to person so it's a completely different medical discussion.

I got a pellet grill about a year ago and have loved it. I grill a lot more with my pellet grill than I ever did with the gas grill.

I think Sumner Gun Store in Portland has a leather worker. I know nothing about them, but it could be worth a visit or at least a call. 840 to 109 and head north!

45 Colt case, green dot powder, card, shot, and top card, and you have your own home made snake shot.

Especially the ones that are engineered and tested correctly.

Hey Reefer, sent you a PM

My dad carried one of the Jetfire's for years. I still have it sitting in my safe with a little holster he made for it. Actually cannot remember if I've ever fired it.

PM sent

Check out Larue Tactical, their QD mounts are the best, they sell several optic options... Aim Point red dot with 3x AP magnifier, QD and swing away magnifier mounts

Do not wish to highjack the thread, but just completed my new deck yesterday.

Money comes in to play for sure when it comes to what you “need”. Range toy or something you can depend on if situation is serious. For more budget friendly options but not crap optics I’d recommend: Primary Arms red dots Vortex Sparc Holosun Sig Romeo 5 (my fav in budget pick) More money but better quality: Eotech (multiple choices) Trijicon MRO

The very young don’t get sick from it. Again, if you can’t contract it, I don’t see the concern.

I’m open to any trade offers for guns, ammo and optics. Sell price is $2,500 which is below half price for these new!

108x59x93” LWH Outside 96x48x88.5” LWH Inside Looking to have it out the next couple of days.

Glad to hear it Don, hopefully you can get to the bottom of what is causing this. Most everyone here has been super helpful in my journey and one of the suggestions was to pay $30 to the AFT and apply for an 03 C&R license and they'll weed out what the holdup is. It looks like mine was a battery arrest from a charge falsely made by an ex-wife that they dropped but the court failed to file the dismissal. I just received mail and info from the CA DOJ that looks like should clear mine up, my new paperwork shows that the disposition was that the prosecution denied further action on it. I'll send this to the nice lady from the ATF, and also a copy to TBI and hopefully that will be the end of this nonsense.

I’ve long maintained that if drinking makes one unsafe with a gun, it’s not the gun that’s the problem.

Beat me to it!