Marswolf

Interesting note. Sounds like he goes out of his way to get "harassed". I don't know him. Might have to come down and go shopping to meet him. I did hear one report about him from a Knoxville LE friend on another board. Basically he said he knew the "kid" and that he is a "prick." One of the reasons this officer doesn't go to Coal Creek very often. He said the Coal Creek guy was the kind of person who shoves his rights in your face just cause he can. Says he isn't surprised the guy would pull this crap. Puts a bit of a different slant on the story. Any of the rest of you know him?

You really have to watch post hoc fallacies in research, especially it would seem in medical research. 99.9% of all Americans over the age of 20 who die of cancer have eaten mashed potatoes. Therefore, eating mashed potatoes causes cancer.

Not necessarily. An argument can be made that you should have known the law even if the local PO people didn't comply with the law. I think their not posting would be helpful in your defense, but whether it was pertinent would be up to the courts.

You know one of the reasons that Glocks became so popular as LE weapons? The cocked and locked 1911s that a lot of departments used scared the public with that cocked hammer. No one questioned whether the cops should have guns, but they did get squeamish about those hammers. So, when something reliable and accurate came along at a reasonable price that got rid of the hammer, departments started switching. The gun they ended up with wasn't more safe than the cocked and unlocked 1911, it was just without a hammer. Sooner or later some soccer moms are going to become afraid of "cowboys" wearing guns in Wal-Mart and start pressuring their state representatives to do something about it. And that state will do something about it. Even my wife, who has a LE background and sees me OC all the time as part of my job thinks that people who do so without good reason are cowboys. As some people have pointed out, it isn't a "right" if you have to get a permit to exercise it, regardless of whether all the constitutions on earth say it is a right. The Tennessee law was changed from CC to OC to prevent some cop, on instructions from his anti-carry boss, from arresting us for inadvertently exposing our concealed handgun. But you guys just keep exercising your "right" to open carry until it is taken away from you.

I guess I should take the guy at face value, but I have to wonder if the VP at Coal Creek really just forgot to cover his handgun with his shirt. This story can be either good news or bad news for us handgun packers. We'll see how it plays out.

Note that the handgun restriction must be posted, as per below. Without the posting, regardless of the hunting or lawful purpose thingy, they would be in violation of USC by not posting. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000930----000-.html "Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and ( shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.

Do we have a Midol emoticon?

Unless it is "incident to hunting or other lawful purposes."

That was horrible. I love it!

I think the one I had held 7 guns. Fully loaded, it was heavy.

Last I heard, the Iraqis may pursue this in US courts. The supposedly have a video showing the Blackwater folks shooting first. That may be true, but doesn't mean they weren't in the early stages of an ambush. You don't wait for the cage door to close before you start trying to get out.

I agree. The most reasoned response I've seen about Yeager.

Well, I can say that I scored 100 on the test. All of my rounds went in the black part. BTW, I also scored 100% on the written part. So I guess that makes me perfect.

Mannnnnnnnnn, I read this book back in the 60s. I think it is one of those that should be required reading for all students.

God, this sounds like a time warp back to the drug-soaked 60s. Tie-dye is coming back. Maybe peace beads and draft marches are next. Déjà vu all over again.... What I found during the unpleasantness of the Vietnam war was that most of the people opposing the draft on moral grounds either didn't want to go or had someone they knew who they didn't want to go. It was more a practical call than a philosophical one. Personally, I volunteered for slavery. Kinda though it was my civic duty.

Oh, I'm constantly the only one who is right.

Actually, states always had the right to conscript you. Up until the national conscript acts of both the US and Confederacy in 1862, the way conscription worked was that the central governments of the nations would call upon the states for X number of soldiers and the states would raise them, by conscription if that was their choice, and supply those troops to the central government. I think I've mentioned that I don't like the draft, but I also have no use for those individuals who hide behind some impractical philosophy and demand their right to not serve while refusing to help defend their way of life. Those people may and should find out what actual slavery is.

Missed this until now. Actually, the nation was founded on the idea that every man would serve to defend the country. That's what that "militia" thing is about in the Second Amendment. No one was supposed to get a free ride while others defended their freedom.

It's unlikely that I'd ever shoot much at a place that requires an RSO to be present to shoot. That's one reason I like forest service ranges and quit one gun club that went to RSO requirements.

Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there packing guns who are screwed and just don't know it yet.

I know what you mean Phantom. I always think that this guy is so nervous that i can probably figure out a way around his having a bead on me.

Phantom, I certainly wasn't trying to say that none of the schools teach their students useful things about handling handguns. I was trying to say that even if you are expert at handling them because of prior training, that doesn't mean you understand Tennessee law and that you should have to take a written test to prove that you do have a good grasp of what you can and can not do. I do have a bit of a problem with different schools using different criteria in scoring on the shooting qualification test and setting different distances for part of the shots. It seems to me that for fairness, all schools should shoot the same number of rounds at the same distances and use the same scoring system. But in even the most stringent schools, I still claim that the qualification is so easy as to be pretty pointless. If you can't pass the simple carry permit shooting qualification, you probably shouldn't own a handgun. I understand that at legitimate self-defense distances, you don't have to be an eagle-eye shooter. Not going into a panic is probably more important, but we don't test for that.

I remember that when the idea came up of doing a fast-track for veterans to get their carry permits that I commented that just because you know guns, doesn't mean you know didly about the state's gun laws. The qualification itself is pretty much worthless, except to tell other states with equally idiotic qualifications requirements that Tennessee does it too. Reciprocity and all that. But the classroom stuff is information you need to know to keep you out of legal trouble for packing where you shouldn't or thinking that you have LE powers because you have a permit. Everyone needs to learn the law and demonstrate on a test that they do understand it.

You know, I used to have one of those. I must have sold it, but can't remember doing so. Too many dead brain cells from the wild part of my life, I guess. Found it for practically nothing at an antique shop in Kingsport. They had no idea what it was.

One of the local gun clubs tried to put in a one shot per second rule. Got a bunch of the old members in a rage. It was a dumb idea and unneeded. Finally the idea just quietly died of its own stupidity.