GlockSpock

If you also gets Bud’s emails, then their mailing list could have been stolen. Or sold. Or someone could have an email list from some other “gun source” (firearm blog, other web store, etc) and simply connecting dots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I wouldn’t open the attachment, especially on a windows computer without proper antivirus software. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Either a scam or malware attempt. Likely either from Bud’s email server (hacked), or simply spoofed entirely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In a nutshell, if anyone did this and has one of the Dropbox codes, PM me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Did this supposedly come with a Dropbox code for 5GB? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree. It I understand his (the son) excitement, it wasn’t that long ago that I was there too (but that was before the law changed regarding a loaded handgun in your vehicle). Chances are everything over the next eight months will be ok, but there is also a chance that it will cause him an issue. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s even more simple than that, the father is old enough to be my father and over twice my age. I gently suggested that, but eight months seems like forever and I don’t think that’s what they’re going to do! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I already mentioned this to the father. He thinks his son is mature enough to do so responsibly and I told him that it is simply legal. We talked about how a lot of cops might not be aware of the legalities of doing so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I figured that I would bump this instead of starting a new thread. A coworker has a son that is 20, turning 21 in eight months. He is wondering whether he can keep his handgun in his car over the next months and then get his permit. I believe this to be the case, and seem to remember this very discussion here. My understanding is that as long as a person is not prohibited from possessing a firearm and is in lawful control of the vehicle, they may keep a rifle, shotgun, or pistol in their vehicle with round chambered.

I mentioned to a friend that we should go in 50/50 on one of these. He spent the next 30 minutes trying to convince me that we actually needed to do it. I was just joking. He's a big Elon Musk fan himself and keeps up with basically everything that SpaceX is doing. He sent me a screenshot two days ago of his order. I guess he either found someone to split it with him or he decided he had the money himself. To me, I would have just bought a Glock. Easier to conceal and further range. With that being said, only 20,000 were made and sold. So, it could be a collector's item worth more someday depending on Musk's success and following.

Just a general bump. Code still active. Curious whether anyone has participated.

So is this what you throwing your undivided support behind a firearm looks like? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My comment didn't make sense because it was in the wrong thread. Oops!

Or someone that breaks bigger and more apparent laws at the same time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So, to the OP, serious question, what guns do you personally own and love? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In more straightforward terms, assuming that the 4" at 50 yards quote from Franklin Armory is correct, your 8" at 100 yards math is correct. Your 4 MOA math is not correct.

4" groups at 50 yards is ~ 8 MOA. 8 MOA at 100 yards is ~8". 4 MOA at 100 yards is ~ 4".

By no means did I mean any of that in a snarky manner. MOA is something that a lot/most people get confused about. Here is the most important thing to remember: MOA is a measurement of an angle, not a "grouping". Degrees - Minutes - Seconds 360 Degrees in a circle Each degree has 60 minutes Each minute has 60 seconds So for "MOA", you are really referring to how many minutes of a degree. It just so happens that 1 MOA is ~ 1" at 100 yards (it is actually 1.047"). As the distance shortens from 100 yards, the "grouping" (really, it's just the perpendicular measurement of the angle at a set distance) can only get smaller, just as it can only get bigger as you move out past 100 yards. The place a lot of people get a bit off is usually "What MOA is it at x distance"? As in, trying to use MOA to describe the group size at different distances. The thing is, MOA doesn't change. If something is 1 MOA, it's 1 MOA at 100 yard just as it is at 1000 yards. The thing that changes is that perpendicular measurement, at 1000 yards that measurement (or in gun terms, grouping) is 10.47".

4 MOA at 200 yards would be roughly 8”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wrong. 4 MOA would be very roughly 2” as 50 yards. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m still waiting for the NRA to fulfill this promise of repealing the 1986 machine gun ban. I bet nobody has heard of Wayne LaPierre though, have they? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, I don't know that much about locks, but I wondered if perhaps I should have done this while doing the work. I wouldn't mind buying whatever top grade lock, but if I'm doing that I should just go big and buy a metal door as well. I could always go back and do it again, but then I'd be mounting the door reinforcement plate back into the same holes. Could work, but wouldn't be as strong. Still yet I may do so and figure out a way to make it work. And I don't think anyone is under the illusion that this sort of product makes your home impenetrable, it is just all about layers and making it slightly more difficult. Whereas before I think literally anyone could have given it one swift kick and been in the home (day or night, whether we were at home or away), I don't think anyone is simply kicking in the door quickly anymore. Of course there are other options, but some of those options would dissuade some and would delay anyone. Now if some madman is banging on the door while my Wife is home alone, I am more confident that she would have enough time to grab a firearm compared to if they could have simply kicked in the door within seconds. Layers.

This product attempts to help, but I think long term I too will upgrade to metal doors. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just received confirmation that the discount code will expire on March 16th, 2018. Happy shopping!

Awesome! Same concept, different execution. I do like that they also include the squared plate for fixing to the door itself, bracing the deadbolt and door itself from impact as well. For someone willing to experiment a bit, most of this could be done from scratch cheaper. However, for anyone that isn't simply about saving the most amount of money for the trade-off of convenience, this kit sure was nice. Also, I'm not sure whether or not they still offer it, but at one time they guaranteed that your door wouldn't be kicked in or there was a cash payout.