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  1. For the most part I have to agree with Rabbi on this issue. There is an abundance of evidence that Jews have been and remain the most persecuted, hated, and despised people on planet Earth. In the Middle Ages, Catholic law forced Jews into usury, a practice forbidden to them by their religion. Was this a coincidence? Jews throughout Europe were forced into ghettos a la "The Merchant of Venice" and subjected to many pogroms, confiscations of property, and other denigrations. Islamic states and Muslims in general treated Jews much more fairly and humanely than Christian Europe ever did, that is until the 20th century, and one can still dispute this (the Holocaust, continuing anti-Semitism, etc.). It is has been estimated that approximately 50% of the Jews to ever live on Earth have suffered a violent end. I cannot attest to this or even cite a good source for it but I do know that Nazi Germany systematically murdered ~50% of the Jews alive in the 1930s-1940s. Now, when we argue over the cannonical texts of any religion we run into difficulties. Personally, I find the text of the Bible as reliable as any of the other texts I deal with as a historian. No one questions the veracity of texts attributed to Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle, or any number of the ancient Greek philosophers. However, the earliest editions of these texts date from the 9th or 10th century AD and the Carolingian Renaissance, a good 1500 years after the lives of these men. No autograph copies exist. To sum up: Jews most persecuted people ever, Islam traditionally more tolerant of Jews than European Christianity (not now), and slighting canonical texts = bad form.
  2. I had much 'to do' also but did not get home until after I had completed my work/errands. Guess I will need to purchase some cat/dog food tonight. I also received my black and brown Beltman belts today and they make a huge difference with my Comp-Tac FBI cant paddle holster. I cannot wait to try them with my CTAC.
  3. Well, I received my HCP in the mail today. 36 days total from fingerprinting to my happy home. Now I need to fabricate a reason to leave home and carry LEGALLY!! Thanks for the class Phatom6. I also noticed that Branket received his HCP today also, they must mail in batches.
  4. Haven't picked one up yet just doing the homework.
  5. Thanks for all of the responses.
  6. I am looking to pick up a Walther P22. I have seen these priced new for $259 for the standard and $50-$75 more for the target model, depending on black or OD. Since most of our forum members know more than I: What is a fair price for the standard model new and used. Thanks,
  7. Rabbi, Go to your local Health Department, DHS, or any other government office in this state. All signs have both English and Spanish on them. Why the bilingual signs at these "public service" offices if illegal, non-English speaking illegals are NOT eligible for these services. I do not intend to or mean to offend you but you have no idea what you are talking about. All of your 'arguments' boil down to: the US spends too much money on the failed enforcement of immigration laws; therefore, the US should abolish or otherwise replace those laws with new laws that will cost the US even more money without adequately addressing, stopping, or controlling immigration so that we may revisit the problem again 10-15 years down the road.
  8. I cannot for any reason see why the US would want to model itself after the EU. In a real sense it is the EU that has modeled itself after the US. We have an immigration process in place that our government and citizens have chosen to ignore until we now have the present problems. Instead of changing a system that has only failed because of a failure to enforce; we should have full enforement of the law as it stands and only then make changes if necessary.
  9. Rabbi, Why should a Z visa cost less than a US citizen's passport? I believe molon is opposed to illegal "temporary/permanent workers" not those who went through our system to come here and prosper.
  10. Very well stated, molonlabetn. The rule of law has been the premiere hallmark of Western society from the Greco-Roman period. Why would we abandon it now? In ancient Athens resident aliens could become powerful and productive members of Athenian society but they or their children could NEVER become citizens and Athens was a true democracy. The problems faced by the later Roman Empire only became more aggravated with the expansion of citizenship to all those living in the confines of the empire. Ironically the Romans did this to increase tax revenues. If we look to history we can find very similar situations to our current one and if we study these situations we find that devaluation of law and citizenship have only exacerbated the problems.
  11. Rabbi, In your last post responding to me you wrote, "freedom is not a liberal issue, it is the original conservative issue." This is patently false. Conservativism, as a political ideology within Western Civilization, arose in the aftermath of the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars. Conservatives sought to return Europe to the pre-French Revolution status quo. Men like Metternich (Austria) sought to role back the liberal reforms and ideas of Nationalism spread by Napoleon. In fact, in 1815 the Congress of Vienna met specifically to accomplish these goals. Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Thomas Malthus, John Stuart Mill, and Adam Smith were some of the most influential liberal thinkers in the Western tradition. All of these men believed strongly in personal liberty, minimal government intrusion, and personal responsibility. In the mid-nineteenth century, we had Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels who penned The Communist Manifesto, which was another permutation of liberal ideology. I used "extremely liberal" in my last post to appear diplomatic. Because we have chosen to refer to our present 2-party system in the US by using conservative and liberal as synonyms for Republican and Democrat we have diluted the meaning of the words. Both Republicans and Democrats are by definition liberals. Each party can trace its origins back to the liberal political traditions formulated primarily during the European Enlightenment. I used "redistribution of wealth" to refer to your comments that suggested open borders and to previous comments in this thread, by you and others, that intimated the US should/could "fix" the problems in Mexico or other countries that prompt people to come here illegally. Liberalism as a political ideology casts a long shadow. We need to understand this and speak accordingly.
  12. I have one question that any one may answer: Why is it that people who espouse ideas that at best appear extremely liberal are the first to bring up economics as a justification for their ideas? The real "immigrant issue" boils down to how the US is going to implement wealth redistribution in the 21st century. Our previous attempts at this type of practice have failed miserably (Great Society). We must realize that if we support this kind of sweeping redistribution we become socialists at a minimum. Open borders do not help our economy, as a whole. Cheap produce at the grocery store does justify the flouting of our republic's laws and sovereignty. The strains placed on our social services infrastructure alone far out weigh the gains made from cheap available labor. Throwing money at our borders will not solve our problems. We must get control of the illegal immigrant situation not for the political reasons, nor the economic reasons, but for the protection of the US as an independent entity. Assimilation and personal responsibility are a necessity for the immigrants: learn English, pay taxes, minimize reliance on public assistance, and BECOME Americans.
  13. The problem with immigration that has arisen in the late 20th and now 21st is one of assimilation. In the 1920s Mexican nationals crossed the border on a daily basis to work jobs within the US. Many, returned home every evening with some others remaining for a week or so at a time before returning. Now they choose to remain as illegal immigrants. This was not always the case. With the advent of the Great Depression and a growing belief that Eugenics represented valid science thew US decided to severely curtail cross-border comerce for reasons ranging from economic protectionism (a response to the Depression) and the belief that Mexicans represented an inferior race (Eugenics). The latter gave rise to increasing siscrimination toward Mexican-Americans who became US citizens with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848 at the conclusion of the Mexican War. This treaty basically "gave" the US our entire South West. So, we are definitely in a tough position and we have look back 100-150 years to estsablish the root causes. In my opinion the problem is reminiscent of the influx of the Gothic peoples into the eastern Roman Empire during the late 4th century AD. Initially the Goth's received permission to settle en masse within the empire but through exploitation by Roman citizens, bureaucrats, and a lack of assimilation on the part of the Goths increasing animosity grew between the groups culminating in a crushing defeat for the Romans at the Battle of Adrianople in AD 378. The Roman Empire lasted another 100 years but this was the beginning of the end. If we fail to control border security and assimilate foreign nationals I foresee the failure of our great republic.
  14. I likewise am disgusted by the "immigration reforms" planned by the Congress and our President. The confluence of unfettered illegal immigration and rabid socialism/environmentalism has proven most fortuitous for those that seek the decline of our country. I am of the opinion that without a strong nationalist outcry from the citizens of the United States we will witness an unalterable decline of US sovereignty within the next few generations. I can only echo DEIMOS' questions and lament the complete lack of effective leadership in the US.
  15. Len, I think the idea for a "carry day" sounds like a brilliant idea. Timing the event to coincide with TN Constitution Day makes perfect sense and lends legitimacy to the entire enterprise. I will gladly participate in any version of this the TGO comunity sees fit to agree upon.
  16. I have had the same frustrations when checking for new posts. While I am unwilling to request the removal of non-gun related posts, I do find the "please buy X" posts, particularly from 1st-time or very new members irksome.
  17. This is a question that I will need a definite answer to once my permit goes through the state. I teach at Pellissippi, Walter's State, and a few other colleges in the Knoxville and surrounding area. My reading of the TN codes leads me to believe that as long as a handgun stays in a POV, locked, and out of sight while on school property this meets the requirements for legality using the current statutes. I know this is repititious but is this also everyone else's understanding?
  18. Welcome Chemsoldier and enjoy the forum, btw how goes things in FayetteNam?
  19. I am of two minds regarding these despicable people: On the one hand, I hope that these people know now or will come to know Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. On the other hand, I demand that our government place a fitting punishment on these individuals, a punishment that will insure that they never have the ability or opportunity to perform these horrendous acts again. The only true and defensible purpose for the death penalty is to guarantee that heinous criminals can never duplicate their previous atrocious acts.
  20. Welcome und guter Tag/et bonne journeee Lo1291 (the only German I can quickly recall, had to look up the French). Glad to have you here, lots of good info and very cordial discussions.
  21. dkd83 = my initials plus my jersey number when I played football in the earlier 1980s. I use it whenever possible to cut down on the confusion that arises from having too many on-line aliases. I have also used Ximenes - after the 16th century cardinal that served as regent in Castile (Spain) for king Charles I and Lugalzagesi - after a 3rd millennium BC king of Sumer. (yes, I am a history geek)
  22. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Until last weekend, my wife had never fired any weapon in her life. Therefore, I am more interested in acquiring an inexpensive pistol for her to practice with before moving her up to at minimum a .380. I probably should have stated this clearly to begin with but the initial post came at the spur of the moment. As some have opined, it is more an issue of getting her used to shooting and I think a .22 will prove the most cost effective way to do this. I like the idea of the Bersa when it comes time to move her up and get her carry permit. Again, thanks all for the assistance.....
  23. I am looking for a .22 auto pistol for my wife. She is uncomfortable firing my XD9sc (too snappy) but liked a mutual friend's Walther P22. I think this is a better-than-nothing choice but I would like a similar pistol with a higher capacity magazine (around 15 rounds sounds right). Any suggestions appreciated.

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