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[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1352325872' post='841359'] We were never considered a Christian-Judeo nation, even by the Founding Fathers. See the Treaty of Tripoli, written in 1796, approved by the 2nd President, a certain John Adams. See the treaty's article 11. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Treaty_of_Tripoli_as_communicated_to_Congress_1797.png"]http://en.wikipedia....ngress_1797.png[/url] This misconception is a more recent creation. [/quote] This has never been evidence of secular nation, it has been tried to ,but this was also superceded later by the Treaty of Peace and Amity 1805. The Mayflower Compact of 1620 casts a whole different picture than what you bring with a treaty between 2 nations . The MC was an agreement of "founding fathers" fathers if you will.

Thats what I ve been tryin to tell some TNGO s on another post, but sadly they are modern day boot-lickers.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352480616' post='842516'] Considering that most of the people that you are talking about are combat veterans, I want to tell you that you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about when you limit sacrifices for this country to whatever inbreed gene pool that created you. Secondly, I stand by what I said. YOU NEED A MENTAL EVALUATION! [/quote] LOL

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1352404947' post='841964'] Any of you Rambo-wannabes hoping for 'civil unrest' need to get the heck out of this country. Only a maniacal loser would wish for anything like that. We don't need your kind. [/quote] This countrys freedoms was brought about by patriots who stood up revolted and warred among themselves. If everyone would have just got out of the country who didnt want to live as slaves or bow down to what they knew was wrong, only those like you would remain. Folks like Robert Nashville, LINKS2K, HvyMtl and the like could all be servants to the power that be , in my ancestors and family we have done just that, and sacrificed life for the freedoms of this nation, so you probably wouldnt understand. Dont try to imitate patriotism by standing behind the ones who enslave you.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352310450' post='841097'] I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop [/quote] well great , you and your family I hope will suffer deeply. commie

Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.

m a y be n e x t i m e h e w i l l s l o w i t d o w n s o a l l y o u l i b t a r d s c a n u n d e r s t a n d .

LOL internet wasnt invented yet , therefore you couldnt google it, so therefore it never happened. strange way of lookin at it but if it works for you ok lol

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Then the picture would be three piles of politicians.

how about pick a winner

Ron Paul considers anyone not from his planet a foreigner , he has always been an idiot and will change his policy as the wind shifts.

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its a 2 party thing and thats probably not gonna change very soon , so if you vote for the 3rd party man you are looking for weakness in the 1st and 2nd parties voting base but if only one of the 1st or 2nd parties voters show a vote of support for the 3rd party then the only accomplishment of the 3rd was to hand victory to either opponent but not win himself thats why with the 2 party system you have left leaning or right leaning canidates within each party and it is all about the money in the end Im not saying its right but Im not falling for the 3rd party utopian promise either

Yeah just like Ross Perot weve been there done that.