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Added a 22LR Remington 597 20 inch barrel model with scope 3 - 9 x 32 (came as package, so it is the 20 inch barrel with out an open sight - just the scope). I just got it yesterday and have not shot it. Comes with one 10 round magazine using double stacked bullets, so the magazine does not protrude far below the stock (I like that feature). A 30 round magazine is available from Remington.   I ordered four (4) 10 Round magazines from Cheaper Than Dirt for $60 including shipping. Received a $10 Gift Card to be used for next purchase. So, $50.   https://www.cheapert...047700196541.do   For info - I had been considering the Marlin 60 and Ruger's 22 rifles also. But went the 597 route. Mainly I will be target shooting (not into hunting and don't have a place to hunt or shoot varmits).   Hopefully, some issues with magazines and ejectors when the gun first came on the market have been resolved. Lot of U-Tube Info is online.  Internet folks say --- make sure magazines have the number 10 circled -- so as to have the latest model magazine (old ones had problems - this is the 3rd design).   My First Problems noted earlier this evening): Loaded the magazine with 10 rounds. it is hard to get the 10th round in. One reviewer noted that problem with from 9th to 10th round. He said it got easier with time (maybe the spring weakens).  I also had a problem getting the loaded magazine to "Click" into the gun. I had to really push it in (most show the magazine inserting easily as mine does when not loaded with bullets). For Info - that is with the Magazine that came with the gun, not the ones I have ordered as I have not received them yet. WONDERING if anyone else had that problem.    Any feedback on the gun use, reliability, improvements will be appreciated. There is a lot of information on the Internet (U-Tube) and most is positive on later models of the gun (note the problems I mention at the end of this topic).       Here is the story on my shopping and information on the two models to consider (20 inch or 16 inch Heavy Barrel) in case it helps someone else shop that might be interested in the 597.   I took advantage of a sunny 40F day (Feb 11) and rode Motor Scooter to Bud's Gun, then to Bass Pro, and to Dicks to check prices and the two model. Short story is -- I Bought at Dick's Sporting good sale and I had a $20 coupon plus a coupon for extra bonus points. They bore sighted it for me FREE.    My intention when I left was the 16 inch Heavy Barrel. ((If I went with the Remington - I was still thinking the Marlin 60). Marlin might be the best deal at from $168 to $178 plus a scope for say $40 or $50. But, I decided I did not want a tube load and the 10 clip  loads on most are the long ones that protrude down.    Anyway, the 16 inch HEAVY BARREL Remington is sold two ways: Gun alone with no sights of any kind, but a scope mount plate runs  $189 (price at Bud's). No Sights of any kind, so you either buy a scope for  $40 or $50 or shoot with no sights.   Or Gun & Scope package for $229  has a 3 to 9 magnification x 32MM scope. Scope has an "r" on it -- the salesman at guessed that it is made by Tasco for Remington. There is not a focus adjustment (unusual I thought - butt he image is clear to me). Maybe Remington makes scopes? - I don't know.     The 20 inch REGULAR BARREL Remington is sold two ways: Gun with an Open Sight on it is $199 at Bass Pro and comes with a mount for a scope. Not a bad way to buy it and then buy a scope for say $40 or $50 and you could use it both ways (open sight or scope) and have $249 in it (Plus Background Check Fee, $10, and tax..   Or Gun comes as package with the scope (like one I mentioned above) for $239 at Bud's and only has the scope (no open sights).   What I bought -- at Dicks Sporting Goods was the 20 inch with the scope (no open sight) as a package. I had received a E Mail and found out it was on sale at $229 ($10 less the Bass Pro). The thing that prompted me to do it TODAY was the $10 OFF sale and a coupon that came in the mail today for $20 off on any purchase over $100. So, basically I got it with the scope for $209  vs $239 at Bass Pro. PLUS -- Another dang background check ($10) as TN still requires the background check and filling out the questioner even if you have a carry permit. Plus tax - came to $240.55.   Includes one 10 round magazine or clip (double stack so it sits up in the gun like a 5 round clip). They have extra clips for like $19.99  - or on Amazon for I think I saw $15.99. They also have a 30 round clip for I think it was $25 at Bass Pro.   Problems Noted on Internet Reviews and U-Tube: Magazine or Clip---Apparently the initial clip with this gun (sometime in mid 90s) was plastic and caused a lot of problems. Remington redesigned with more metal and less plastic - still had problems. Latest design I think was 3 or 4 years ago and is all metal except the inner top part that pushes the  bullets is plastic.  Guys on Internet, says reliable now.    Ejector -- Initial gun had eject problems in that the ejector would not pull  the spent bullet casing out after some wear. Guys used after market replacements and had a fix. Remington changed the ejector and no more problems per folks on the Internet. I HOPE.   

Added a 22LR Remington 597 20 inch barrel model with scope 3 - 9 x 32 (came as package, so it is the 20 inch barrel with out an open sight (just the scope). I just got it yesterday and have not shot it. Comes with one 10 round magazine (double stacked bullets, so the magazine does not protrude far below the stock -- I like that feature). A 30 round magazine is available from Remington.   I ordered four (4) 10 Round magazines from Cheaper Than Dirt for $60 including shipping. Received a $10 Gift Card to be used for next purchase. So, $50.   https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/remington-597-magazine-22-lr-10-rounds-black-silver-finish-19654-047700196541.do   Hopefully, some issues with magazines and ejectors when the gun first came on the market have been resolved. Lot of U-Tube Info is online.  Internet folks say --- make sure magazines have the number 10 circled -- so as to have the latest model magazine (old ones had problems - this is the 3rd design).   For info - I had been considering the Marlin 60 and Ruger's 22 rifles also. But went the 597 route. Mainly I will be target shooting (not into hunting and don't have a place to hunt or shoot varmits).   Any feedback on the gun use, reliability, improvements will be appreciated.      Here is the story on my shopping and information on the two models to consider (20 inch or 16 inch Heavy Barrel) in case it helps someone else shop that might be interested in the 597.   I took advantage of a sunny 40F day (Feb 11) and rode Motor Scooter to Bud's Gun, then to Bass Pro, and to Dicks to check prices and the two model. Short story is -- I Bought at Dick's Sporting good sale and I had a $20 coupon plus a coupon for extra bonus points. They bore sighted it for me FREE.    My intention when I left was the 16 inch Heavy Barrel. ((If I went with the Remington - I was still thinking the Marlin 60). Marlin might be the best deal at from $168 to $178 plus a scope for say $40 or $50. But, I decided I did not want a tube load and the 10 clip  loads on most are the long ones that protrude down.    Anyway, the 16 inch HEAVY BARREL Remington is sold two ways:   Gun alone with no sights of any kind, but a scope mount plate runs  $189 (price at Bud's). No Sights of any kind, so you either buy a scope for  $40 or $50 or shoot with no sights.   Or Gun & Scope package for $229  has a 3 to 9 magnification x 32MM scope. Scope has an "r" on it -- the salesman at guessed that it is made by Tasco for Remington. There is not a focus adjustment (unusual I thought - butt he image is clear to me). Maybe Remington makes scopes? - I don't know.     The 20 inch REGULAR BARREL Remington is sold two ways:   Gun with an Open Sight on it is $199 at Bass Pro and comes with a mount for a scope. Not a bad way to buy it and then buy a scope for say $40 or $50 and you could use it both ways (open sight or scope) and have $249 in it (Plus Background Check Fee, $10, and tax..   Or Gun comes as package with the scope (like one I mentioned above) for $239 at Bud's and only has the scope (no open sights).   What I bought -- at Dicks Sporting Goods was the 20 inch with the scope (no open sight) as a package. I had received a E Mail and found out it was on sale at $229 ($10 less the Bass Pro). The thing that prompted me to do it TODAY was the $10 OFF sale and a coupon that came in the mail today for $20 off on any purchase over $100. So, basically I got it with the scope for $209  vs $239 at Bass Pro.   PLUS -- Another dang background check ($10) as TN still requires the background check and filling out the questioner even if you have a carry permit. Plus tax - came to $240.55.   Includes one 10 round magazine or clip (double stack so it sits up in the gun like a 5 round clip). They have extra clips for like $19.99  - or on Amazon for I think I saw $15.99. They also have a 30 round clip for I think it was $25 at Bass Pro.   Problems: Magazine or Clip---Apparently the initial clip with this gun (sometime in mid 90s) was plastic and caused a lot of problems. Remington redesigned with more metal and less plastic - still had problems. Latest design I think was 3 or 4 years ago and is all metal except the inner top part that pushes the  bullets is plastic.  Guys on Internet, says reliable now.    Ejector -- Initial gun had eject problems in that the ejector would not pull  the spent bullet casing out after some wear. Guys used after market replacements and had a fix. Remington changed the ejector and no more problems per folks on the Internet. I HOPE.   

Thanks for the welcomes from everyone.   Doing more Air Rifle shooting that anything else as set up targets in basement (convenient and cheap --- couple pumps and BB or Pellets). Mostly BBs as can put 50 in at a time vs loading one pellet at a time.   I think I have it sighted in better or maybe just better aim and operation on my part (at least I get more in the 4 inch circle or close to it). Also, think pellets are a bit more consistent.   Only about 30 foot range, so not entering any Olympic Competition.   :)   I intended to add a picture of My Burgman 400 Scooter with Scabbard for air rifle on left side, short barrel shotgun broke down and wrapped in towel across seat and 22 Pistol and Air Pistol in trunk. Don't see a way to attach pictures.   Made a trip to Bubbling Spring shooting range last Sunday on the scooter (got some attention because the air rifle looks like an assault weapon - Bear River Brand).  I wanted to at least shoot the shotgun as I have not since new short barrel installed. Also,  shoot air rifle at longer range.   Dang Range was closed for REHAB, should be open Jan 21. It is a 53 mile ride over there (Oh Well --- a MC ride is a ride).              

I ride a motorcycle or a scooter to a Forest Range east of Newport, TN to shoot (previously only used a 22 Pistol and a BB CO2 Pistol that I carry in saddle bag). Legal to carry in saddle bag with or without a Carry Permit (same as your car  as treated as your home).   I did get a carry permit - just to be legal if I want to take it off the MC or out of the Car for any reason. Plus, might want to carry at times.   The question I have now is Can I Carry a Rifle or a Shotgun in a scabbard on the motorcycle?   Looking thru the codes in TN 39-17 would drive anyone not a lawyer NUTS. Lawyers must be nuts to start with. Just joking.   I think I can legally do so, but I plan to ask local law officer to see what they say.   I bought a scabbard at Flea Market Saturday and was able to fix it to the MC (CB500X Honda) to where I feel safe carrying the Shotgun and for now an Air Pump BB/Pellet Rifle). Might get damage to the guns if I drop the bike and likely real serious damage should I wreck.     Other than that, I just worry about the legal aspect and thought I might share information as well as get some inputs. Inputs if you are sure and not just guessing would be appreciated. :-)    

I re posted under long guns. 

Sorry, Off to a bad start on the FORUM.   I just realized I was under a Non Related Topic when I posted this. Trued to delete and apparently that did not work. Maybe the moderators can delete?  I have re  posted under Long Guns.  

Bud's is a nice facility --- lot of long guns also that you can look at hold operate mechanism with no supervision (not so sure that is good policy, but I like to do it). :-) Prices OK I guess (it pays to shop) - sometimes a special going on.   I was looking at Ruger 22 (SR22 Model). Ended up buying at Knifeworks for $30 less and got an extra clip (one more than the two that come with the gun). Some reason Knifeworks had a special from Ruger that day.       Shooting Ranges are all too expensive for me --- think Bud's is like $20 an hour and another $10 to share a stall. They do have a Sevier County Day (Wednesday) that is $7 for 1/2 hour and extra $4 to share = $11. And, $12 for hour and $7 extra to share = $19. That is the cheapest you can shoot.    Normally, I do not want to shoot for an hour or even 1/2 hour continuously. Probably maximum of 50 rounds and more like 20 or 30 rounds.    Most times I prefer to go to a public range (Like Bubbling Spring) - Put $2 in envelope ($1 with Golden Eagle Pass) and shoot as long and as slow as you like. I even take my BB pistol and rifle (cheap shooting).  

Just recently involved with some shooting (New 22 Semi Auto Pistol) and Heavy Stuff. Heavy Stuff  is a new BB CO2 Pistol and BB 10 pump Rifle. :-)  Have only had a shotgun for like 60 years (bought as a youth).    Probably had more fun with the BBs as I can shoot in basement any time for practically NO COST. BBs are 6000 rounds for like $8, rifle is a pump and the pistol CO2 Cartridges are like $0.50   and last 100 rounds.     Found this site while searching the TN 39-17 code for law information. Guess laws need to be written in legalize and long to cover all the possibilities - but need a lawyer to understand the stuff.     I did go ahead and get a TN Carry Permit just to feel  more legal about carrying gun to shooting ranges on Motorcycle. I like  going to Bubbling Spring (Forest Range) and ride there on MC. Confirmed MC is like Car is like a Home (Confirmed at Sevierville Police Station with an officer that can carry without a permit on MC in saddle bag or in Car as they are treated same as your Home).   However, cannot remove it from car or MC. So, I just feel better (legally) having a permit because not always want to leave gun in Car or on MC and may want to carry sometimes in other places.    I made the application on line, found a class locally (reasonable $40 Class, $10 Range fee, and price of 50 rounds of AMMO for 22). I took the class FRI, Range SAT (easy shoot of 20 rounds at 3 yards, 20 rounds at 5 yards, 10 rounds at 7 yards at a big target - 2 points in yellow and 1 point in blue - only need 70 points). Nearly anyone can pass both the course and shooting. Sad in away (not to get political) I just think background checks, as well as class and training should have a higher standard.      Went to DMV on Monday, UPS for fingerprints on TUE , and received permit about 10 days later. It may have been at PO Box earlier - I finally got around to stopping to pick it up.