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  1. 2 minutes ago, SWJewellTN said:

    I wouldn't know since I don't know what he said on the matter.

    Sorry, I should have included his quote...

    Former NFL tight end and head coach Mike Ditka said Monday "there has been oppression in the last 100 year that I know of"

    And I really don't think you believe this...

    Da Coach, has pulled back on this statement since Monday...

  2. 16 minutes ago, SWJewellTN said:

    Don't feel bad for me. I don't miss football at all, and it gives me more time for more important things in life.

    As a veteran, (although I don't think that's a qualifier for anyone's opinion on the matter), a BLACK professor says the "issue" is bull :poop: The statistics do not bear it out. In other words it's a made-up issue.

    So you agree with Mike Ditka?

  3. 1 hour ago, Steelharp said:

    While your service is appreciated, your position is bewildering. You need to re-read RED333's post again.

    Thank you. I did re-read REDs post twice, and it really doesn't change my position. I will always support PEACEFUL protests...

    But I thank all of you for allowing my to state my position, without getting curb stomped...

    Understand, I do respect your right to protest the protests...

  4. 9 hours ago, MP5_Rizzo said:

    There have been custom shops and and conversions availabile for about 4-5 years now.  Glad to see Buck finally offers a factory auto.

    I bought one 10-12 years ago, and it works great. The button only opens it, you need to use the lock back to close it. Of course these things are way more fun and useful, since I moved from IL to TN.

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  5. 12 hours ago, TripleGGG said:

    I watch sports for entertainment and to escape the craziness of life. Once they wanted to make statements I was out. That's more of the same crap everyday. I support anyone's right to protest. I have the right to choose what I will put up with for entertainment. 

    Well you do have the option to not watch the anthem...Just turn the TV on at the kickoff...problem solved.

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  6. That is too bad for ya'll...

    Last night's Bears/Vikings game was outstanding. The Bears started their new rookie quarterback, it it appears they have someone with some serious potential. And during the game, I saw the greatest two point conversion I've ever seen. Good stuff.

    As veteran, I support peaceful protest of something that really is an issue. And I have a hard time understanding why everyone has their panties in bunch over this. (Although I am sure someone will tell me...again:blah:

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  7. 2 hours ago, DaveTN said:

    I don’t understand why anyone thinks this clown had to have training. I also don’t understand why anyone thinks he had to have help.

    Exactly. A lot of money, and access to YouTube. It's not rocket science.

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  8. 5 minutes ago, n0rlf said:

    The problem is not the protest or even so much how they are protesting. It is about the fact that different parties are seeing things in different ways. Some are protesting what they call the improper treatment of a segment of society. Others are seeing it as thugs protesting they got caught basically.

    So the bigger discussion should not be so much about race rather about how to act and behave in a polite society. How to obey the laws and be responsible for one's self.

    A lot of people have gotten tired of having that discussion and being called racist when they start to have it. The race card is nothing more than a distraction used by one side to validate how some behave. If you try and start any conversation around the issues that is there first and only topic. Really, well let's discuss the individual instances that they are protesting. Break each down and go from there. I am willing to bet most folks regardless of color can agree on facts if looked at in a non passionate manner and objectively.

    I would really like to think most Americans can do that. Problem is that on both sides there are some that just want to have hate and discontent. Some based on race, some on their economic standing in society, some on gender, some on their chosen lifestyles. Everyone seems to get offended by everything these days and the big part of society that is now saying tough! That just does not cut it anymore, we are going to act and communicate as adults not spoiled feelings hurt 4 year olds is really pushing things into the light.

    It is going to have to get worse before it gets better as both sides will have to open their eyes and minds and shut their mouths long enough to see things from all perspectives. To date most have proven themselves incapable of that.

    But you make my point. What you say my be true, but it is also the start of a dialog that can be built on.

  9. 4 hours ago, john455 said:

    I disagree, no one is having a dialog about a difficult subject, they are pissed as hell about a clear cut show of disrespect to our flag and national anthem. I don't care how many of them say it's not a show of disrespect that it BS, the same as Shannon Sharpe saying the flag is just a racist piece of cloth nobody would fight for.

    Actually many of us are. We are talking about the protest, the flag, racism, and what we can do to make this county better. I've discussed these things with friends, family, neighbors, strangers, and on various message boards. Many of these folks are fellow vets. We don't all agree, just like here, but we are talking about it. And that is a good thing.

    Sure, there are plenty of folks who have their undies bunched up about the method of protest, but once you get past that, and discuss the reason for the protests, the dialog begins. 

    John, even you are discussing this right here in this thread.

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  10. 1 minute ago, MacGyver said:

    But, one question that I've really been struggling with this week is, what does it say about our country when some folks try to start a conversation about racism in America today and it gets turned into a debate about love for our country itself?

    That is an excellent question...

  11. 7 hours ago, Omega said:

    If they would have stayed in the locker room, and said they are just pulling away from the politics I'd have a different opinion. But no, they want to stay in or lock arms in protest so, we are where we are.

    It is my understanding, that it was the US Army, with their big sponsorship dollars, that pressured them to be out on the field for the anthem, flyovers and other ra-ra stuff.

  12. 10 hours ago, Omega said:

    Yea, you'd be wrong.  Nobody is saying they don't have the right to protest, just that they don't like they way their doing it.  I highly doubt the Army is OK with it, and I will be surprised if they don't pull back their advertising once the paid for commercials run their course.

    Before the US Army started advertising with the NFL, the players stayed in the locker room for the anthem...

    Anyway, the thing about protests, is the are supposed to be uncomfortable. Mission accomplished.

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  13. 1 hour ago, jgradyc said:

    Anheuser Busch is a big sponsor of the NFL. Call 1-800-DIAL BUD (342-5283) and press 1 for their stand on the NFL and then leave a message. I told them I was boycotting Anheuser Busch products and urging my friends to boycott them as well. They sell bud, bud light, michelob, stella artois, and a few other craft brands.

    Please feel free to copy and paste this to your other forums and Facebook. 

    Damn man, I boycotted their beer years ago, because it taste bad....

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  14. 10 minutes ago, jgradyc said:

    It's not enough to boycott the NFL. Everyone should boycott every brand that advertises during NFL games. Here is the list. If you're a vet or a USAA member, as I am, you should definitely contact USAA directly and ask them to cut their affiliation with the NFL. Look at the list of products made by Proctor and Gamble and avoid buying them. Call the Anhauser Busch (Bud, Bud Light, etc) Help Line, press 1, and when asked to leave a message tell they, "I am boycotting all Anhauser Busch products as long as the company continues to sponsor NFL games. I'm also asking my friends on all forums to join me in boycotting your products.) Don't use those exact words, but you get the idea. 

    http://newlypress.com/here-are-the-nfls-25-corporate-sponsors-boycott-time.html

    Should I also boycott the United States Army, since they are sponsors? As a vet, I would rather not.

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