D B Cooper

Familiarity and use - Are you more familiar with either when it comes to shotguns? I'd lean that way in this case. What do you plan to use it for? For defensive purposes, SHTF scenarios, door entry, and house clearing, I'd go pistol grip. If you have any (as odd as this may be I've seen it) thought of hunting, or shooting clay sports, I'd go standard stock. I have an M2 for defensive purposes and went with the standard shortened stock, I'm more comfortable with it.

My son in law owns one and really likes it. I shot it and thought it was a good shooter. I've owned a bunch of Springfields (but not a Hellcat) and found them all to be very reliable. I think it's a better choice than the Ruger.

Good choice with the M&P, I was going to suggest the CZ P-01 as well, if you're ok with a DA/SA trigger

I've got a CZ P-01 and love it. It's not the smallest, nor the lightest, but it feels great in the hand and shoots beautifully. Probably not much lighter than the EMP, but capacity is better. The grip angle on both is pretty different, I'd shoot both if you can and see if you prefer one more than the other.

Sleep - I wouldn't say difficult, different yes. What works best for me is not to look for the red dot, but look for the iron sights as you normally would. This makes the red dot "appear" without actually looking for it. Using this method, I can (and have) switched between carry guns with a red dot and without. GrayFox - I rotate between a couple carry guns. I'm not a big Glock fan. I mean, you can't argue with their reliability, but I hate their triggers and their sights. I've been carrying a Shadow Systems CR920 Combat (a Glock 43X clone) with a great trigger (ok, not Walther/HK great, but still very good), night sights, and better texturing on the slide and grip. I highly recommend a Holosun EPS carry red dot (507k footprint). It's enclosed so no worries about lint, dirt, rain, snow, etc getting in the LED emitter open red dots deal with. For carry, I think it's the only way to go. Hope this helps.

I may be able to help a little - I own the Sig p365xl, it's one of my carry guns. Night sights, longer slide (compared to the 365) makes it a nicer shooter. Grip is thin and it conceals easily. Capacity is 12 +1. Flat face trigger. I don't own the FN but I've handled it in the store, I've not shot it. The trigger is better on the FN, crisper break and less creep, not saying the Sig is bad, I just like the FN trigger better. Depending on your hand size, the Sig grip "depth" measured front to back is pretty small. Some have complained the grip is too small. Smaller than others I have, but not so small it bothers me when shooting it. I recommend the XL. I had the standard 365 and sold it. If you get a chance to shoot both, I'd be interested in your opinion. I should add, my other carry gun at the moment is a Shadow Systems CR920 Combat. If you like Glocks, you'll love the CR920, better texture, slide, capacity, sights, and trigger than the Glock 43X

This is an excellent reason to get a permit - politicians in the anti gun camp, or on the fence can easily construe dwindling permit numbers as a lack of support for 2A interests. Allowing them the opportunity to try to push through more anti gun legislation. Even if you THINK you might carry, get a permit. Another reason - my son in law recently asked me this very question, if a permit was needed or "worth it". I told him any knowledge you gain is good knowledge, training required in permit acquisition is valuable. It allows the discussion and exploration of viewpoints that are not necessarily your own, making you think differently about a situation. The trainers I've had (for four permits) have been great. Knowledgeable and willing to share information without discounting or putting down an opinion not in line with their own. He got the enhanced permit and thanked me for the recommendation afterward, for those very reasons.

Good to hear you had an enjoyable time at the event, I wish I could've been there myself. Interesting Lt Gov Randy McNally was in attendance since he is anti second amendment from his actions. I guess he's more "pro tax money" than anti 2A.

I have some 9mm reloads I bought some time ago - I shot some of them this past week and had a number of issues. It's not worth it to me to continue to shoot ammo that may cause a problem. Is there a safe recommendation how to discard live ammo without actually shooting it? Can I take it to a range to dispose of it?

Seriously good to have everything back. On a side note, I just purchased a Shadow Systems CR920 Combat to replace my P365, very nice firearm, accurate, fits a Glock 43X MOS holster, night sights. 13+1 capacity. Compared to a Glock 43, steel night sights, better grip texture, more capacity, much better trigger (not Walther / HK better, but much better than a Glock). Just a bit bigger than the 365, a little easier to shoot for me. I still have a 365XL which I like better than the 365. YMMV, just my experience with each.

Baldr O-light light/laser on the bedside pistol. Nothing on my carry pistols.

Jon - Gov Lee and McNally (among others) are RINO's. They claim to support the second amendment, but their interpretation of the second amendment. That may be my opinion only, so take it for what it's worth. Luckily, they are currently outnumbered by real conservatives, and I personally doubt Lee has the votes to pass his modified red flag law. We need a real conservative to run against Lee and boot him from office. Then we can get a replacement for McNally who is an unelected official. I moved here five years ago, and never regretted the move at all. Would have done it sooner but work kept me where I was. Impossible to say what's best for you, but I'd suggest you take a look at East Tennessee and see if it fits what you're looking for.

Hey Sleep - I'm in Loudon as well and just put the same sights on one of my CZ's. If you still need help, message me. Mike

Gov Lee's pressure to strip Tennessee citizens of their constitutional rights with his Red Flag law, gets the attention of a 2A supporter in the state of Washington. I appreciate the video's this guy puts out there in YouTube, bringing attention to news around the nation, and explaining things in an easy to understand manner. Tennessee, a state teetering on the brink of gun control

Been reading for awhile, just signed up. Moved to east TN almost 3 years ago now. Love the place, the people, the weather, the roads, everything. Got some long guns, got some short guns, I usually make it to the range about every two weeks. I'm retired so I can make it a habit. Really enjoy Sporting Clays and Skeet the most, I drive out to Crossville to shoot when I can. Pistols mostly for carry purposes. Just getting into some (rifle) distance shooting. If I'm not shooting, riding motorcycles, computer technology, and vintage (early 70's) two channel audio keeps me busy. Hope I can contribute some usefulness to a discussion soon.