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I'm curious, don't folks have to have a sponsoring agency to maintain their POST certifications?

Actually, I think it isn't wood. I believe it probably is a colored polymer furniture set to designate a shotgun that is to only be loaded with less lethal rounds (sandbags, blocks) probably orange but the lights are making it appear pink.

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1178099" timestamp="1407716795"]I missed them.[/quote] Me too. I hate it when I miss a good fireworks show.

[quote name="Dolomite_supafly" post="1175804" timestamp="1407245371"]How funny would it be to place against some high end rigs. BTW, there is nothing wrong with Highpoints as far as reliability goes. They are a blowback, not locked breech, gun so they are going to be safe with any ammo you shoot out of them. And because they are blowback they are so much more reliable. I dare anyone to find someone who has actually owned a highpoint that says theirs wasn't reliable. Yes they are ugly as sin and cheap as hell but they are reliable.[/quote] The reliability issues don't stem from the blowback design, but from the magazine construction. My first handgun was a Hi-Point. It was not reliable at first. Then I purchased new magazines for it. At one time there was (and still may be) a thread devoted to the tweaking of the magazine feed lips to increase reliability as they had a tendency to spread over time when left loaded. The metal used to make the magazines is a bit thin & weak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Though I have always been a customer of RangeUSA, I know the local market will be much poorer without them.

[quote name="Dustbuster" post="1172430" timestamp="1406434034"]Now hopefully they'll pass a concealed howitzer law, and flamethrower permit law. Perfect for that filthy nasty disgusting town....dc, ptooie Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.[/quote] Your post does make me wonder if DC has a local flamethrower law. Federally (& in TN) they are unregulated and I have been thinking about building one. It would be amusing to see if they overlooked that particular device in DC as well.

[quote name="ab28" post="1167091" timestamp="1404951518"]Yeah I hate at will firing states, because you are a slave to greedy corporations. I was fired a couple of times over the years over crap someone accused me of, and at will opens the door to all kinds of discriminatory firings, or being fired simply because they don't like you. I wish the at will thing would just die, you should have a good concrete reason for being fired at a job. Corporations only care about money and would grind their employees into dust to save a few pennies. Look at Wal Mart, many of their employees are on food stamps and welfare while they made billions in profit. With that said, I worked at a gas station, and carried when I worked there. My right to self defense trumps an employer's property rights. If I would have gotten fired for using it, I would have just found another job, at least I would be alive to. [/quote] I have the opposite view. I would much rather work in an at will state.

[quote name="DaveTN" post="1165588" timestamp="1404577758"]Most of our machine tool manufactures are already overseas which would cause us major problems in a large scale war. Do we really want our guns manufactured in a foreign country? American gun manufactures are still the best in the world.[/quote] I think you are talking about now, I was talking about the initial issue of the M14 and its replacement by the M16. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1165580" timestamp="1404576751"]I knew about that. Didn't have anything to do with sand. Had to do with longer engagement ranges. [/quote] I didn't say it did. I was just answering the question of M14 reissue. To be honest, I don't think we should have ever issued the M14. The FAL is/was a superior rifle that was available at the time and in wide use amongst ally nations. The M14 was a poor offering and it was well replaced by its successor. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1165568" timestamp="1404575854"]I think you are getting the M14 and the M4 mixed up. AFIK, the M14 hasn't been issued in any significant quantity since the early Vietnam years. Did I miss something?[/quote] Yeah. M14s were dusted off, upgraded and reissued to troops in 2010 for use as a DMR. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I specIfically designated a particular type of training in reply to the references to the explosion of "tactical" trainers. For the vast majority of participants that's exactly what they are, a fantasy camp. If you are LEO and using this in your daily job, I'm not talking about you, in this thread. (See threads on militarization of LE for my words for that!) If your rifle is part of your home defense setup and you attend class using your gear in the same manner you would at home (like me) I'm not talking to you. If you are .mil and using these classes to increase your skill set for combat, obviously not talking to you. If you are someone who gets all dolled up in tac vests, plate carriers and camo that only comes out for class. You are who I am talking about.

I know you'll be really happy to get back here Earline. Hope it happens for ya.

[quote name="Sam1" post="1165246" timestamp="1404486628"]Shouldn't take any kind of training serious because any kind of a self-defense situation will end up with both parties out on the lawn with dueling pistols, right?[/quote] That's not at all what I wrote. Try again. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Let's be honest here. Carbine classes, tactical training, etc. arefor the vast majority of participants nothing more than a fantasy camp for the gun crowd. Very much in the same vein as a football fantasy camp where you get to spend a weekend working out and scrimmaging with a couple of over the hill NFL second stringers.

Now, take that treadmill speed it up to a full run and hop on, get the heart rate up. Hop off engage a set of targets, holster & repeat. I can see that. But I am not going to be on a treadmill with gun in hand where I run the risk of a trip on the moving treadmill. That would be some bad juju. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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[quote name="kingarmory" post="1164853" timestamp="1404358463"]Nah, much love for the Memphis crowd, its just a town with an abnormally high amount of "rough areas". Don't look at it as "Memphis", more like "FOB Elvis" ;)[/quote] That is just damned funny. Bravo. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

True story.

We're there at least twice a week. We will still continue to be there at least twice a week. Our carry guns will be too.

In all seriousness, MSRP on the Sig is $460. Call it $400 street new, $350 in trade value. Plus 1k of .22lr. I think they are actually reasonably equitable in value. I look at it as an even trade. 

These days that 1k of .22 is probably worth more than the Sig it comes with. :lol:

Simple answer is that they don't.

Accountability that won't ever come as long as the concept of qualified immunity exists in American jurisprudence. While the equipment is less important than accountability, it is still an important issue. I know you are familiar with the concept "the clothes make the man." I remember it being used to great effect when I was in basic training. "Here is your uniform. You look like an Airman, now it is time to act like one!" This is the concept currently at work in the militarization of LE across the nation. LEAs are increasingly being equipped like military units, dressing like military units, using military terminology to describe themselves, recruiting former military personnel and using military tactics to carry out their missions. All of this engenders a war/combat mindset in the officers. Law enforcement is not a military mission. You and I have lightly touched upon this subject before. You don't object to the use of military hardware and tactics stateside, I do. While a 3am raid where you kick down a door of a structure and rush the occupants before they can respond in a clear headed manner may be an entirely appropriate tactic when the targets are enemy soldiers in a combat zone, it isn't in a US city when dealing with citizens. 

I informed a couple of LE friends of mine about it in the last couple of weeks. Neither one had seen any information at all come through the official departmental channels. That was for MPD and SCSO. I found that more than a little bit unsettling to be honest.

Cool! An invisible knife. I guess you could use it for an assassination or something since nobody would see it and know you had it.  :rofl: