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  1. We need to watch this, but it probably won't even pass the Senate, and pretty sure won't pass the House.

    As a side note, I wondered when the Lefties would go after ammo. I'm even hesitant to say it for fear that some of the banners would see it, but if you have no ammo you could have a safe as big as Ft Knox full of guns and they wouldn't be worth anything without ammo.

  2. On 5/2/2023 at 12:36 PM, chances R said:

    Not entirely correct.  Carry laws are the sole responsibility of the State. (TCA 39-12-1314 ) The change you refer to has to do with a lawsuit Knoxville filed.  To circumvent the suit, if the City wants to prohibit carry these procedures are noted by law to be legal TCA 39-17-1359(g)(1).  These laws  were  to prevent a patchwork of varying laws across the state.  Memphis has to follow this as well.  As noted previously, school functions take precedence in public parks across the state

    Yes, but that still doesn't mean you won't get charged and prosecuted in Memphis. The problem lies with the fact that liberal police departments and DAs pretty much do what they want, regardless of what State law says, and nobody has the backbone on the state level to make them behave.

  3. On 5/21/2023 at 10:31 AM, Grayfox54 said:

    If you're involved in a shooting, you better expect to be arrested. The police are gonna arrest everybody involved until they can sort out the details. Odds are the charges will be dropped AFTER the police get the complete story. 

    i know of several self defense shootings where the person claiming self defense didn't get arrested at the scene. Now admittedly some were arrested later on after the investigation. 

    I know of a guy personally that shot a guy and never was arrested, and it wasn't even a very good shoot. with the circumstances involved I was actually worried he might get charged but he never was. He pulls into his driveway with his grandkids in the car and this guy approaches him off the street. The guy said something angrily in Spanish as he approached the car, and he just got out of the car and shot him. He is a older fellow, and the bad guy was pretty built, and the DA said that because he was apt to be overpowered by the bad guy and he was protecting his grandkids in the car it was justified. Also, right or wrong the bad guy was an illegal and had no family pushing for charges or to file a civil suit. 

     

    As for the incident in question, I hate the guy was arrested but he also shouldn't be firing a weapon if he can't keep his eyes open while doing so. If he had shot a family across the street he would have a lot more charges and there would be innocent people dead. This is what worries me about a lot of well meaning people armed, they don't have the training to actually handle the firearm when called to do so. Looks like they only thing that saved him was the robbers were as bad of a shot as he was. 

     

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  4. On 8/24/2022 at 8:00 AM, monkeylizard said:

    Beat me to it.

    Unfortunately, I think the end of the NFA would actually skyrocket prices on things like the MG42. The supply can't get any bigger and the demand would surge. Only guns in current production, or where a new production version would be just as or nearly as desirable as an original would see prices plummet. Glock 18, MP-5, Uzi, M-60, or M-4/M-16 for example.

    I don't think so. Demand really wouldn't change, I mean they are available now if you're willing to pay. Also, even though guns like the MG42 was already out of production, there are still a bunch of them that are post-1986 guns (built after the ban). Only MG42 I've ever shot was a post-sample, SOT I was friends with got a police demo letter for it, lol. All that being said, I think prices would likely hold for original guns. 

    I've got a couple of MGs that I've had for a long time, I wish I had bought more at the time. I guess a MP5 and M249 would be on my list. Any belt gun is still going to hold a pretty good price though, I could actually turn my M16 into basically a M249 now with the right upper, but I choose not to. 

    Then of course there is the M134. Everybody wants one, but very few can afford to feed it, and even post guns are still expensive. I mean, you've got to have 10k rounds just to have a little range time. 

    Aside from MGs, I'd probably pickup a few cans and SBR almost everything. I currently don't own a single can, I'd like to have one if I could just go to the local gun store and pick one up, but don't want one bad enough to go though the paperwork hassle and pay a $200 tax to own one.

  5. On 4/3/2023 at 3:42 PM, Links2k said:

     
     

    Times change, and those unwilling to adapt are left behind longing for the good old days. 
     

     

    I understand times change, but it's a little different with things like technology changing and your moral values changing. For instance, I don't want a electric vehicle, but the current trend is to eventually do away with ICE vehicles. I won't like it but I suspect if I live long enough I could very well be driving a EV. I will not change or adapt my moral values, and I will submit anybody willing to do so didn't have very good values to start with. It's also up to us older people to instill our moral values into the younger people.

    I just can't buy into the notion that we should just accept changing times and jump on board or get left behind. Like has been said "you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything". 

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  6. On 4/3/2023 at 1:13 PM, BigK said:

    As much as I hate to admit it, I suspect the 2A issue is something like 30% pro-2A, 30% anti-2A, and 40% don't care. If that's even close to accurate, decisions like this only anger a little over 1/4 of their fans. 

    They don't take these positions as casually as you think. I bet they already know exactly how big the hit will be and how long it will last. After all, the shot-callers are money-grubbing record execs not the leftist artists, right?

    I don't think that's how it works nowadays. What you now have is these liberal groups that threaten them if they don't take certain stances on certain social issues. Yes, they do these things in a calculated manner, but these Soros funded groups are threatening to make all out war against them if they don't do their bidding.

    Look at the whole Bud Light deal. They aren't stupid, they knew they were going to get some backlash by having a trans in their advertising, but they calculated that it wouldn't be as bad as if they had told Soros no. I think they miscalculated pushback, but they are really in a no win situation money wise. This same thing has happened to NASCAR, the NFL, banks, and all other sorts of big corporations.

    There is a whole lot more to this than just some association and corporation executives deciding they want to "go woke". Most associations and corporations had rather just stay out of politics, and concentrate on what they make or otherwise offer the consumer, but their hand is being forced by these Soros funded groups. These woke groups have a lot more power than we do, they have the media on their side and have to power to completely destroy even the biggest corporations. About all i can do is spread the word and just not give them any of my money.       

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  7. 1 minute ago, BigK said:

    I find zero fault with that reasoning, but I thought they were idiots before you started poking holes in their logic with facts and common sense. LOL

    Believe it or not, I've had some positive results from people we would consider "anti-gun" on Facebook with that argument in the last few days. People are just running on emotion (as almost all liberals do), but when you force them to look at the facts it can make them think a little. I think we have a real chance at least softening some of these ignorant sheep if presented with hard facts, and most of these numbers I posted can be found on liberal sites (giving them credibility in their eyes). 

    The people that really concern me are the people that know the facts I presented above, but choose to hide them or twist them. They are the ones trying to completely disarm us by any means necessary. They know that banning "assault weapons" won't do anything to prevent killings, and know that gives them a open door to ban other firearms. Now what their final plan is when we are completely disarmed I don't know, but I know it will be very bad.    

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  8. I have yet to find statistics on how many people are killed each year with "assault weapons". You would think with all the talk of banning them somebody would have compiled the statistics. I will submit they have, but they didn't like the results, so they don't release them. 

    Only thing I can find is for 2019 and it list a total of 13,922 homicides, of which 364 were committed with rifles. Now if you break that down to homicides committed by "assault rifles", I'd say the number would be a fraction of 364. Since we don't have the data on what they call "assault weapons", lets go ahead and give them the 364 number and assume every rifle murder was from the barrel of a AR-15. Ask your gun grabbing "friends", lets say we get rid of every gun you call a "assault weapon" from the whole U.S., ok you've prevented 364 deaths, but what are you going to do about the other 13,558? 

    When confronted about a new "assault weapon ban", I have never got a answer to the question and that will shut them up, because they don't have an answer. 

    This also goes to show you that banning what they call "assault weapons" will do nothing to stop murders. Even if you stopped every murder committed my all rifles, you would only decrease murders by less than 0.03%. The reality is though, the actual murders by "assault weapons" are much less than that 364 number, and most people that did commit murders by what they call "assault weapons" would just use something else. Then you add the fact that by banning them you'll never actually get rid of them, it's a non issue that will change nothing. 

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  9. We all complain about TN gun laws, but it could be much worse. It's really not all that bad.

    Seems just about every state has some strange firearms laws. The thing that always bugged me about FL was the concealed part, and not allowing open carry. While I don't open carry, I still have to worry about my shirt or something riding up and revealing my gun, which can put me in violation of the law.

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  10. 10 hours ago, Grayfox54 said:

    I'm right there with ya, but I am by no means a mental health expert. I wouldn't even know where to begin. 🙄

    And that right there is the gist of the issue. Trying to deal with the current mental illness epidemic would be very complex and expensive. Nobody, especially the politicians, wants to be bothered by it. Then there's that whole woke thing where you might accidentally hurt somebodies feelings. 😲

    Nope, it’s just so much easier to blame the gun.  That's the easy answer.  That's exactly what the antis have been doing for years and they aren't interested in the truth. 

    First we need some peespecirve. While very tragic, the odds of somebody getting killed in a mass shooting are very very slim. I get that everybody wants to end these shootings, but completely ignore other things that are more likely to kill you. You’ll hear “if it will save just one child”, but if we banned everything that would save at least one child they would live their lives in a padded room.

    All that being said, these school shootings is a problem we need to deal with. I’m not sure it will ever happen though, because it is a society problem. When I was in school in the ‘80s a lot of the kids carried guns on school grounds daily, but there were no shootings. Guns were more accessible to everybody back then, but there were no school shootings. You have to ask yourself what has changed.

    I think a lot of it is the breakdown of the nuclear family, the internet, and video games. When I say video games, I don’t think they affect everybody, but I do think somebody that is a little unstable can be greatly influenced by them and de-sensitized to killing. I’ve personally met people that had trouble telling the difference between video game play and reality. My kids play them, but they are also exposed to real guns and know the responsibility you need to handle them and the real damage they can do.

    Also all this work agenda forced on kids at a very young age lends itself to emotional problems. It really all boils down people turning farther and farther away from God. 
     

    That’s what it will take to solve it, but I bet there are some on this very thread aren’t willing to do what it takes, and it has nothing to do with taking away anybody’s gun. If I’m wrong, I’d love somebody to explain to me what has changed from 40 years ago until now.

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  11. I've been trying to find the data but I've been having a hard time finding it, I think on purpose. 

    What I've been trying to find is the actual numbers of kids being innocently murdered. Everything is lumped together to make a higher number. Once you take out suicides, accidents, and gang activity, the actual number of kids murdered by firearms each year is pretty low. I'm trying to compare those numbers, or the numbers of kids killed by "assault weapons"  to the amount kids killed by drunk drivers.  Once I find this data I'm going to point out the fact to my anti or on the fence "friends" that nobody seems to care or talk about banning alcohol, because we know that it wasn't the Budweiser that did it, it was the guy that decided to drink and drive. 

    There were 5 other kids and 1 adult also killed in TN recently, a car wreck on I24. Nobody wants to talk about things like that much.  

    Gang activity is also a big killer in places like Chicago. I think this is why they group 18-19 year old in the children statistics, because it inflates the number a bunch due to gang activity. 

    Also look at abortions. There were over 600,000 children killed legally killed though abortion last year, the number one killer of children by a long shot. A argument can be made that the only thing different in abortions and the kids killed at Covenant is the ones at Covenant were wanted.  

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  12. On 3/28/2023 at 7:48 PM, Alleycat72 said:

    You need an HK mp5k. It'll fit under your jacket. People will know you have it, but It'll be out of sight out of mind. It will not be comfortable and it will not defeat body armor, but getting shot in body armor will change most people's minds. 

    Well I do have a M11/9 with a Lage Max-31. It's about the size of a MP5, but a little longer than the K.

  13. 7 hours ago, pop pop said:

    Metro Police Got it right. Kudos Glad the Chief is so open with posting body cams about these matters. The way it should be, IMO. No guessing about this. SAD SAD SAD Prayers for all

    Edited to add; Could you do this with your chosen carry, if forced too? Hope and pray I never am faced with it. No mouse guns for me. Something to think seriously about. 

    In my opinion the days of carrying sub-compacts and pocket pistols are past. At one time you could likely get by with these smaller firearms, because you were most likely to encounter a single bad guy (or girl in this situation) at very close quarters. Now I won't carry anything but a full size 9mm minimum.   

    I'm on our church security team and I've been trying to figure out how to carry a AR without freaking some of the members out.

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  14. It my personal opinion, it was a good shoot. Sadly I'm not authority on this though. 

    Legally speaking, I'd say it would be hard to justify deadly force over just a punch, but there could be factors we don't know. At the end of the day, a lot of these cases boil down to how well of a defense you can afford. 

    Never tell the police "I made a mistake". 

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  15. 3 hours ago, Worriedman said:

    Watch the Department of Safety come in and "Oppose" the bill, at about 3:01 see Stroeker show she has not read the bill when she asserts it takes out the criminality of 2 DUIs in 10 years, stalking and being adjudicated mentally defective (which it does not do, and she is corrected by legal at 8:22) and Todd's response starting at  16:50 and Grills question of the Department at 11:17. 

    Parkinson ask why they are not opposing the 18 year old shift this year and she does when they opposed it last year?  It was Constitutional then as well, they were just made to do it via a court challenge, or they would still be opposed.

    I will not comment further except to say that MS Stroker admits the Governor told her to "oppose" the bill, and that it would in fact achieve "Real Constitutional Carry" (her words) and the Department and the Governor are against that for the average Citizen.

    I watched it and that was somewhat a cluster. I wish the proponents of the bill knew a little more about firearms, especially when machine gun regulations came up. They were trying to convey that it isn’t easy to buy a machine gun, but it’s actually a lot harder than they made out.

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  16. On 1/16/2023 at 10:04 PM, Wheelgunner said:

    I hear you and agree.  But to me it's all about my assessment of the threat to personal safety.  If in that moment I think I can end the threat to my safety by giving the thug my car, I'll do that and consider it among the best outcomes.

    I honestly don’t know what I’d do, but I hope I would just give him the car if that ended the threat. You are right, the goal is to end the threat, and if that means giving up your property without somebody getting hurt, then so be it.

  17. 7 hours ago, JohnSutton1980 said:

      Starting to make me want to buy a bulldozer............

    Too many people do that and the ATF will start regulating what "accessories" you can have on your bulldozers. You'll have to register your "assault bulldozer", and then another registration for the muffler (suppressor), and then will come a ban for fuel tanks that hold over 9 gallons, nobody needs over 9 gallons to push over a tree. 

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  18. On 1/13/2023 at 11:45 PM, Danger Rane said:

    Also remember, for those of us living in TN, SBRs and SBSs are no longer illegal according to the state. Unless you live in one of the liberal cities you don’t have any real concern about local, or state law enforcement enforcing the federal aspect….unless you are doing something else wrong. Similar to CA and CO in regards to drugs, and several states in regards to illegal immigration.

    In theory you would be correct. Federal agents are everywhere in the State though, and some state or local LEOs will still report you to the feds, they won't "officially" report you, but they can call up the ATF just like any citizen can. 

    All that being said, most (especially away from the big cities) state and local officers don't care what you have in the way of firearms, as long as you aren't doing something stupid with them.   

    If you do decide to ignore an ATF ruling, I would either be very private about it, or go ahead and draw that line in the sand and prepare to defend the line, either though the judicial system or other means. 

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  19. To each their own, but I don't like to swap carry guns too much. Now I know I could be blindfolded and pick up a 1911 and the feel of it would cause muscle memory will take over, same if I picked a Glock up blindfolded. I still worry that it could cause a issue in a tense situation where I had to use my gun. I just feel I'll have a quicker reaction if I always carry at least the same action firearm. 

    Basically, I carry a Glock 17 when size doesn't matter, or a M&P 9mm when I need something smaller, and that is it. 

  20. On 11/18/2022 at 5:57 AM, Worriedman said:

    We added a number of solid 2nd Amendment supporters to the House side of our General Assembly in this last election cycle:
    Jody Barrett in District 69, Ed Butler in District 41, Kip Capley in District 71, Elaine Davis in District 18, Monty Fritz in District 32, Brock Martin in District 79, and Bryan Richey in District 20.

    These are legislators who we can count on to carry and sponsor restorative issues for us.  

    They will be an adjunct to, Rusty Grills, Chris Todd, John Ragan, Jay Reedy and Clay Doggett who have been our Champions to date.  

    I don't know much about any you just posted except Jody Barrett, he is a personal friend of mine and can be counted on.

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