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On 9/24/2017 at 7:17 AM, hkusp40cal said:
If you ever held a government clearance this will happen to you quite a bit. When I lived in NH it happened all the time. For pistols they used state police checks and I was always approved instantly. For long guns they used NICS and I always was delayed. After looking into it I was told it was due to having been fingerprinted in the federal system which flags you for a deeper check.
22 hours ago, tnhawk said:I did have security clearances during active and reserve duty. The holds were on purchases in MS and GA. TN purchases haven't been a problem.
Has anyone filed a Voluntary Appeal File Application with NICS? It requires providing information and fingerprints to prove identity.
Interesting... I too have been fingerprinted on a Federal level for work, but have only had checks through TICS with no problem. Make me wonder if I ever go through a NICS chceck....
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Many state parks still have "No Firearms" signs. This is because when the bill was introduced to allow carry in state parks, if signs had to be taken down or modified it would have added a fiscal note to the bill and many opponents would have used that as a reason to vote against the bill. So it was amended so that parks were not required to do anything with signs...said it still applied to those without a permit...like anyone without a permit could have carried anyway..but I digress.
It is good to hear that they replied to your query and gave you the correct information.
If I remember correctly....when normal maintenance requires a sign to removed or repaired, the new sigh should not have "No Firearms" on it or if it is a No Firearms sign only, not be put back up.
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16 minutes ago, desertsubi said:
Im not originally from around these parts only moved here in December after escaping my tyrannical state of Commifornia so anytime I see anything I ask questions. I mean in CA if you carry in a bag to your car and someone see's a logo they call it in.. So out here I feel like a criminal every time I do anything. I knew that if the park was posted and/or a school function that firearms are not permitted, but just saw people stating between federal and state parts and new Natchez Trace in Lexington has a range, thats how my question came to mind. (Once again I did state it was a stupid question, even though the only stupid question is the one you dont ask.)
And thank you for the response.
Always good to ask in not sure. Oh and welcome to TN, firearms laws here aren't perfect, but much better than California I imagine.
Just to note if you didn't notice in the thread....You are close to Natchez Trace "State" Park. But there is also The Natchez Trace Parkway, a "federal" park that is not too far in Middle Tennessee (and Alabama and Mississippi as well)
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11 minutes ago, macville said:
What park can't you bring your guns in? There's not a park in TN, local, state, or federal that you can't bring a firearm into either without a permit in your car, or on your person outside your car with a permit. The only way they can currently ban guns is if a area is sectioned off and there is an entrance with metal detectors.
Correct. Although to note, you can't carry into federal buildings in National Parks. But federal law requires such building be posted with that notice.
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I'm pretty sure because you have to sign the application, under penalty of perjury, that you answered all the qualifying questions correctly. But they probably could come up with some way to do it electronically I'd think.
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See T.C.A. 55-8-181
55-8-181. Rights and duties of motorcycle operator.
Every person operating a motorcycle is granted all of the rights and is subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of any other vehicle under this chapter and chapter 9 of this title, except as to special regulations in this chapter and except as to those provisions of this chapter and chapter 9 of this title that by their nature can have no application.Although it doesn't say it applies to Title 39, Chapter 13, to me it is saying a motorcycle rider has the same rights as the driver of a car.
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According to the rules for DOS handgun schools in TN, no one under the age of 16 may take the course. Ref- rules 1340-2-3-.05-8
I have read the rules before, knew I got "16" from somewhere, thanks.
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It's a safety class that is required to get your HCP, but AFAIK nothing prevents an instructor from allowing a 16 year old to take it if they want to. Just because you take the class doesn't mean you have to get your HCP...that's just the reason 99.9999999999999999% of the people do
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www.handgunlaw.us
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^^THIS^^
As well as may want to check the states you'll be travelling through
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A diagnosis by a doctor is not the same as being adjudicated by a court. I really don't think you'll have a problem. The only reason to show your DD-214 is if you have handgun training you can substitute for the safety class
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He didn't just carry past a sign, he carried past a sign posted on a government building. This makes it a bigger issue than carrying past a sign at your local mall.
How is it a bigger issue?
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It's worth mentioning that there are different ways of open carrying, and it's the ones that make the open carrier look like a pompous asshat crying "look at me, I have a gun which makes me badass" that makes a lot of people get turned off to open carry. There was also the argument about how an open carrier might be the first one shot, which is speculative at best.
Either way, I support the right of open carry as long as its just that, carrying openly. Carry your weapon for your own defence if needed, don't turn it into a statement.
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Who am I to argue with a moderator, If you agree that most of the TGO members crap on our OC members then so be it.
Not the members themselves nessecarily, but the act of OCing
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To say that "most" TGO members are craping on people that OC is like saying "most" people that OC are mall ninjas. I'm sure there are a few that push the issue over the top on either side, but I feel safe to say "most" don't really give a damn if you OC or CC as long as you have the choice to do so. Again my :2cents:
This place has a long history of being anti open carry. That's not just my opinion either. Do a search and you can dig up dozens of threads.
^^What he said^^
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:stir: Your painting with a pretty broad brush. There many be a few here that feel that way, but saying "most members of TGO like to take a big crap on anyone who carries openly." is pushing it a bit far. I could care less if you want to OC, it's up to you. What I've seen here is most don't agree with any one looking like Sgt. Rock when they do OC. Just my :2cents:
Oh I don't know....from what I remember, he's not pushing it that far.....
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You can get a mid-ride or low-ride holster (not drop leg) or there are LE coats you can by that have a zipper opening for holsters.
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Can't see (as under coat) is concealed
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The biggest problem I have with a HCP Badge is it just helps foster the idea that only those with badges should be armed....
But nothing illegal about it.
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After reading all this it's just amazing what "...shall not be infringed" means to some.... :-\
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More of my focus was being armed with a rifle when LEO arrived.
Ok.... and?
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Things have changed a bit in 6 years
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Basically just as the law "presumes" you are in imminent fear of death or serious bodily harm if someone breaks into your house, even though it might can be proven later you weren't, also just as you can have that fear away from home. The law "presumes" you are under the influence (as far as driving) if your BAC is 0.08% or higher. But that doesn't mean you can't be charged at lower percentage, just that it might be a harder case for the state to prove.
No as far as it applies to the carry of a handgun, it is OS said there is no established BAC, it would basically be up to the officers discretion as far as if you are under the influence as far as the position of a firearm goes. Seems like most LEOs I've seen comment on this have said in their opinion if you can legally operate a vehicle you can be armed. But that is just that individual office'rs opinion.
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This. I don't think you even need the old permit. When I lost my permit I was told the receipt is good enough for carry.
I have no doubt you were told that, but the law says you must also have the expired permit with you.-
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A brush up on state laws.
in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
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I thought that was just Federal Parks, not State Parks