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Yes, to each his own. It is simply that this is a prime example for those that say "What bad could happen from giving over you HCP with you DL?" Seems like most in that group didn't think anything bad could ever happen, before this incident .......maybe some still don't even.

Nothing in the law says it has to be on your DD-214

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Why is that?

Here is what the law says....(interpret at your own risk )

It would have been better to find out at renewal time.....

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Probably would have been better to immediately ask about the stores No Gun policy or to have simply not entered and wrote a letter. But I do see the point they were trying to prove, that while not many, the business could be losing sales because of their policy. It is bad that it directly affected your daughter's paycheck. ....and although I know she meant it more as an offhand remark, You could let her know those signs do not prevent the "thugs" from carrying their weapons in.

Hmmmm.....well maybe my view is skewed based on the uncommon occurence of having NEVER been asked about weapons when stopped.

I have been pulled over when not carrying, should I have still handed over my HCP? Yes, I know the law, that if you are asked for your permit, you must show it. 39-17-1351(n)(1) But being stopped for speeding and being asked for you DL is NOT being asked for your HCP or if you are armed. I never meant any response in this thread as an attack on LEO's or to be taken as derogatory. Simply that there can be negative consequences for blindly handing over you HCP ever time you interact with a LEO. At times it has been asked for someone to cite a specific incident where there were negative consiquences...well here it is. We also have a former LEO stating that it can depend on the situation and that it may not be a good idea to just hand it over with your DL right away. Even now have a HCP instructor reconsidering what he advises students.

How in the world can you think it happened for any other reason other than handing over his permit?! If had he not handed it over the officer may have checked his DL, it would have (did) say HCP Status canceled, I don't think officer routinely ask on ever speeding stop if someone is armed, especially if a check shows they do not have a HCP. While no one can say for certainty, but it it more likely than not, had he not handed over his HCP he would have either got speeding ticket or a warning and been on his way. I do agree that each situation is unique...also I would tell an officer before he found by search etc.... But if you are CCing, not sure how he could see it as long as you don't exit the vehicle.

I have to ask...... Will this make you think twice about handing over you HCP without being asked for it?

Glad you have it back!!

Just depends on how you carry the weapon and the ammo.... So you can't have the weapon concealed or the ammo in the immediate vicinty of you or the weapon. It would seem if you are walking....you are going to have to make two trips, one with the weapon, the other with the ammo.

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Incorrect....you are missing 39-17-1322..... it says that if you use your weapon in self-defense or defense of another you can not be charged with a violation of any 39-17-13xx law.

Good point...and I agree. I disagree on this.

Did they also tell you that you don't have to conceal?

At 19 & 17 neither can carry anywhere let alone on campus.

Have saddlebags? I talked with a Natchez Trace Parkway ranger....he said gun in one saddle bag and ammo in the other would be good enough. At least for him, can't say that would necessarly go for all National Parks.

That is correct.....at least State and Local anyway.

That law just says "served" not "sold"

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