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Ok, honest question here, I am intrigued by the .357 sig but I have never shot one. I use to own a .357 mag but ended up selling it because the arthritis  in my hands made it to painful to shoot anymore. Now I mostly shoot a .45, G30 and M&P. 

I guess my question is, would the .357 sig be viable for me, when the .357 mag was not? 

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Th.357 Sig is nothing more than a .40 necked down to 9mm (.355) caliber.  I imagine if you can handle a .40 it would be about the same.

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I shoot 357Sig occasionally I find it little more snappier than 40 but less than the 10mm, somewhere in between.  

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I have two Sig P320's in full and carry size. It's nothing more than a very hot 9mm, (approximately 200 fps faster). I don't find it particularly snappy nor having anywhere near the same recoil of a 230gr .45 in my old Ed Brown Kobra Karry which had a lot more weight to absorb the recoil. You should also consider the fact that there's a direct transfer of recoil into your hand from a revolver versus a semi-auto. 

If you were in my neck of the woods I'd let you shoot mine. :) 

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I have 357 barrels for my .40 pistols.   I like the round myself , accurate and flat shooting.  I am not all that recoil sensitive compared to many but do not think it is bad to shoot.

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I agree with the other responses regarding recoil of the 357 Sig.  I carry the Glock 31 with Underwood ammo, and the recoil is very similar to a hot 9mm. 

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The best way, and the cheapest, is to get a box of 9mm ranger T +p+ 124 grain ammo. Standard 357 Sig is 124-125 grains at 1300 fps. The Ranger T load is published at 1300 fps. That will give you a really really close approximate of it. 

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John, if for recreational or novelty purposes, go back 70ish years and look at 7.62x25 tok.

I think this is cool little round, new mfg available on line, PPU actually makes a HP.

The guns that shoot it however, are not necessarily shining examples of higher end, precision made, comfortable shooting delivery systems.

Of the handguns, the CZ (vz.) 52 uses a neat roller-delayed system and sports a Buck Rogers look. I've got one - from the internet, seems to be the best made/assembled of bunch but I havent handled a TT or it's clones. Recoil is minimum, ergos were a secondary or tertiary consideration. Parts are available from Harrington.

I recently obtained a PPS-43c; cold war stamped steel goodness.

Choices are limited if you end up going down this rabbit hole...come on down and join me.

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357 sig is my self defense round of choice. In a semi auto the recoil is very manageable. To me, the recoil impulse of the 40 is much worse. I'm also not a big fan of running super hot ammo through a weapon not designed for it. It's been a while since I read up on it but I seem to remember +p+ is not a recognized standard. 

The bottleneck cartridge also aids in feeding the beast without issues. I once ran a high round count 3 day class with one. I used range ammo but my hands took a beating a bit so it was harder on me than the 9mm I usually train with. I just wanted to see the limit of what I could endure and compare my split times with times from previous classes I shot with a 9. I was about 1/10 slower on average. 

In that class we had an opportunity to test various rounds on a car. The sig penetrated much better than the 9, 40, 45, and interestingly enough a 223 fired from a SBR. Depending on your point of view that can be a good or bad thing...

Mark

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4 hours ago, Mark A said:

357 sig is my self defense round of choice. In a semi auto the recoil is very manageable. To me, the recoil impulse of the 40 is much worse. I'm also not a big fan of running super hot ammo through a weapon not designed for it. It's been a while since I read up on it but I seem to remember +p+ is not a recognized standard. 

The bottleneck cartridge also aids in feeding the beast without issues. I once ran a high round count 3 day class with one. I used range ammo but my hands took a beating a bit so it was harder on me than the 9mm I usually train with. I just wanted to see the limit of what I could endure and compare my split times with times from previous classes I shot with a 9. I was about 1/10 slower on average. 

In that class we had an opportunity to test various rounds on a car. The sig penetrated much better than the 9, 40, 45, and interestingly enough a 223 fired from a SBR. Depending on your point of view that can be a good or bad thing...

Mark

That's why a lot of people like it and why a lot of the newer ammo for 9mm and 40 are bonded bullets. One of these days I'm going to get a barrel for either my Glock 35 or M&P Pro if I ever find one.

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