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14 minutes ago, Defender said:

I didnt know they stopped...i was going on what i saw when i got mine...

Nothing reported when I got mine years ago.  

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Has the 2nd amendment been changed since the last time I read it? No where did I read about any mandated training to own  a firearm. Can't have it both ways, either you want gov. to control firearms or you believe the 2nd amendment  as written. Tn will eventually get Constructional carry, one baby step at a time. Where has personal responsibility gone to? You cannot legislate stupid out of existence, humans do stupid things all the time, not very many of them involve firearms. 

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46 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

Absolutely. And I’m too old to run or fight. All I can do is either bust a cap or do nothing. :cheers:

 

38 minutes ago, Defender said:

I didnt know they stopped...i was going on what i saw when i got mine...

My training certificate from 06', has my gun's info on it but no SN, just make, model, and caliber.

 

56 minutes ago, E4 No More said:

When I was a LEO I read about a lot of cases where highly trained LEOs didn't react as they were trained. Some ran away and some missed their target from 3 feet. Training does not predict how an individual will react when :poop: gets real in a hurry!

That was my biggest concern when I deployed, what I would do under fire.  In my head, I felt I would react properly but one never knows until it happens.  Fortunately my reactions were what I thought they would be, and I was much calmer than even I suspected I would be.  Some of my fellow troops needed some encouragement, but nothing as bad as all that.

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2 hours ago, Defender said:

This!  I dont care what they say, when you have to report a gun serial number with the qualification sheet, thats a record somewhere of who has the guns,

First time I filled out a 4473 and was told it would be destroyed and not recorded...I laughed.

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19 minutes ago, hipower said:

First time I filled out a 4473 and was told it would be destroyed and not recorded...I laughed.

Well, it is supposed to be after 20 years :lol: ...assuming the dealer stays in business that long, if they don’t they’re sent off to the ATF.

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8 hours ago, DaveTN said:

I don't think HCP requires gun information anymore, are they bringing it back for this new permit?

I got my permit Sept. 2018 and they did not record any firearm information.

(Thanks to Garufa for pointing out my error on the date)

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46 minutes ago, Jun E. said:

I got my permit Sept. 2019 and they did not record any firearm information.

What is the future like?

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5 hours ago, DaveTN said:

I have faced a gunman trying to take my life, more than once, and lived through it. I’m not the only one around here that has. Some of us have experienced what it is like. Please explain how you train someone for that. I have a pretty good idea of what I will be able to do when the "bullet slinging" starts; do you?

I’m not saying training is not a good thing. I’m saying that you implying that our lame azz HCP class helps prepare someone for a shooting, in any way shape or form, is just way off base.

BTW… “We” don’t get a say so, “They” came to the conclusion that live fire is not required and they don’t care what we think.

Nope, never had anyone trying to shoot me.  What exactly does that make one qualified for by itself ?  I know how I train and hope I react, but no one can predict your situation or their reaction....the possibilities are endless.  My training is fairly extensive and ongoing.  I share that with many people including my HCP classes.  Trained to a point of unconscious competence is certainly better that the average citizen who may be packing.  My reference to being down range is understanding how incompetent the average HCP holder is should they be pressed to draw their firearm.  Lowering the training standards certainly does not make me feel any better about my safety.  Hopefully the HCP course would encourage further training but it does not; so no mistake on my part on that being sufficient training, but some formal training is better that none.  

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On 6/25/2019 at 6:39 PM, Garufa said:

Well, it is supposed to be after 20 years :lol: ...assuming the dealer stays in business that long, if they don’t they’re sent off to the ATF.

Btw, no requirement to ever destroy them, only that they are kept for 20 years. Since it's extra work to cull them, have read that few dealers ever zap any. 

And only requirement to ever send in any 4473s a dealer has is if they go out of biz.

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