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Knoxville Rural King Employee Killed by Shoplifter


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1 hour ago, Grunt67 said:

With any sense, he'll ditch the clothes.

Considering he shot and killed someone to not get caught shoplifting, here’s hoping that his lack of sense holds out long enough to get recognized in the same outfit. 

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2 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

Handcuffs hopefully.

My first thought was for the opposite condition. But just maybe being caught and tried will provide some answers and a bit of solace for the victim's family.

In either case, I wish for the shooter to hang or fry! Yes, I know that's hardly likely anywhere anymore; but I long for the days of justice. Not just a slap on the wrist.

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I usually do not wade in on matters like this, its just a senseless crime.  However, what jerks my chain, the number of what ifs if this POS was behind bars on his previous incursions of crime.  The article below explains two recent priors:  Such as a recent aggravated robbery, felony evading, and a separate incident in Oct for shooting another individual.   Do you think the justice system has any remorse for what happened to this RK employee for failing to keep this POS behind bars?

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/kcso-shooting-occurs-behind-rural-king-in-halls-suspect-at-large/51-b221c0ef-c87f-41ad-ae26-47f8cf7df6a0

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13 hours ago, runco said:

I usually do not wade in on matters like this, its just a senseless crime.  However, what jerks my chain, the number of what ifs if this POS was behind bars on his previous incursions of crime.  The article below explains two recent priors:  Such as a recent aggravated robbery, felony evading, and a separate incident in Oct for shooting another individual.   Do you think the justice system has any remorse for what happened to this RK employee for failing to keep this POS behind bars?

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/kcso-shooting-occurs-behind-rural-king-in-halls-suspect-at-large/51-b221c0ef-c87f-41ad-ae26-47f8cf7df6a0

That's why it's a legal system rather than a justice system.  

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I don't know if the store employee was loss prevention or not, doesn't matter.  I spent a little better than 5 years working in loss prevention.  I must say it's mostly a job for the young and dumb, which was fitting for me at the time.  

I've had shoplifters threaten to shoot me and I just fought them harder.  I was in more physical altercations then I care to count.  And for what?  A couple of hundred dollars worth of a giant corporation's stuff that they are going to write off if it walks out the door, while I was earning $7-11 an hour.  

I count my blessings daily that I was never seriously hurt doing that job.  I enjoyed the hunt, and the capture immensely back then, but wouldn't do it for any amount of money today.  When you do that work you eventually pick up a 6th sense for when someone is going to shoplift.  I often get that feeling when I'm out shopping and I'll post up and watch from a distance.  I have absolutely no intention of doing a thing, there is just some satisfaction watching my hunch play out.  Not my circus, not my monkeys. 

 

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1 hour ago, 10-Ring said:

I don't know if the store employee was loss prevention or not, doesn't matter.  I spent a little better than 5 years working in loss prevention.  I must say it's mostly a job for the young and dumb, which was fitting for me at the time.  

I've had shoplifters threaten to shoot me and I just fought them harder.  I was in more physical altercations then I care to count.  And for what?  A couple of hundred dollars worth of a giant corporation's stuff that they are going to write off if it walks out the door, while I was earning $7-11 an hour.  

I count my blessings daily that I was never seriously hurt doing that job.  I enjoyed the hunt, and the capture immensely back then, but wouldn't do it for any amount of money today.  When you do that work you eventually pick up a 6th sense for when someone is going to shoplift.  I often get that feeling when I'm out shopping and I'll post up and watch from a distance.  I have absolutely no intention of doing a thing, there is just some satisfaction watching my hunch play out.  Not my circus, not my monkeys. 

 

I got called in as reserve for our loss prevention at Sears in high school. Mostly just blocking exits and trying to funnel them where we wanted them. I did end up in a wrestling match one time.  The guy made it to his car and was fighting with one handcuff on. I managed to get the other cuff hooked around the seat so he couldn't swing.  He gave up when the  cops arrived. In retrospect, that was really stupid for $5.35/hr and maybe a couple hundred in merch.  

Most places have a policy against that now... just let them go if they make it out of the store. 

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1 hour ago, peejman said:

In retrospect, that was really stupid for $5.35/hr

 

2 hours ago, 10-Ring said:

And for what?  A couple of hundred dollars worth of a giant corporation's stuff that they are going to write off if it walks out the door, while I was earning $7-11 an hour. 

I suppose that everyone has to make their own judgement about this kind of thing, but I don't want to see a world (San Francisco for example) where it's okay to steal. I see it as being less about the stolen merchandise than it is about a civil society. If a store decides to just let people walk out with whatever they can carry, the cost is transferred to the rest of us, even if it is a tax write-off. 

I think we've all seen videos of gangs of organized thieves going into a store and taking everything they can carry. I don't want our country to be like that. And while I agree 100% that it's tragic that the RK employee was killed, I admire him for having the courage and conviction to do his part to slow the downward slide we find ourselves in.

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