school shooting in Nashville at the Covenant School

[MacGyver]

1 hour ago, Snaveba said:

It is my opinion that one reason the PD is now reluctant is because they have been asked to release everything. This means everything. If they release the EVERYTHING they release Information about how children were shot, personal information about the children, body cam footage of the children. I know I would not want that information out about a child I lost. 
 

also, there is I am sure lots of extraneous body cam footage not pertinent to the issues at hand. IMO,  asking for the release of everything is just voyeuristic. The Nashville PD is not “hiding” things. 

As someone who’s read a bunch of manifestos over the years professionally, I can say what I’m about to say with absolute certainty.

Whatever it is that anyone is hoping to find in the shooter’s writings - you're going to be disappointed.

You’re not going to understand it - because there’s nothing to be logically understood. You’re not going to find a reason - because the reason was this person was terribly broken in a way that we don’t - and can’t  understand.

 The manifesto is a red herring - allowing politicians to distract people by calling for their release.

There are a lot of reasons not to release it.  One, like @Snaveba mentioned above - they contain a lot of truly graphic stuff that serves no public good by its release - and may take the trauma victims have suffered and make it worse. Look at what Sandy Hook parents have had to deal with for the last decade, and you’ll understand why they don’t want it released.

But second, and more importantly we don’t release manifestos because there are broken people out there who that stuff *does* inspire. 

[leroy]

32 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

As someone who’s read a bunch of manifestos over the years professionally, I can say what I’m about to say with absolute certainty.

Whatever it is that anyone is hoping to find in the shooter’s writings - you're going to be disappointed.

You’re not going to understand it - because there’s nothing to be logically understood. ...

But second, and more importantly we don’t release manifestos because there are broken people out there who that stuff *does* inspire. 

I tend to agree here.  This child who did this crime was insane.  Coherent statements from insane folks are very rare.  Let the murdered rest, those affected be respected, and the " notoriety " of this calamity be minimized.  I'ma thinkin it's kindest thing ya can do...

Leroy...

[pop pop]

My prayers are and have been with these victims and their families, however local news mentions this event, as sad as it was, every night since it has happened. They will not let it die because they want to influence the public, and TN Government to ban guns, IMO. Sad use of a public trust. (the air waves). Media is a small part of the problem by publicizing these events. Mental illness is a major problem in these events. 

Edited to add; Dare I mention "Gun Free Zones."

Edited May 5 by pop pop

[BigK]

1 hour ago, Erik88 said:

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true. The law was garbage and what this shooter did was pure evil. I don't really care about her motives. It won't change anything. 

On the contrary, it would be true even if @RED333 didn't repeat it. Sexually mutilating children and flaunting sexual deviance in front of small children should be so obviously wrong that it doesn't require a law, but some people are so sick that laws have to exist to stop them.

[Grayfox54]

I'm just passing along what the e-mail said. I admit to being curious as to her motives, but the rest I'm not really concerned about. 

[bersaguy]

1 hour ago, Grayfox54 said:

I'm just passing along what the e-mail said. I admit to being curious as to her motives, but the rest I'm not really concerned about. 

I'm not sure the shooter really had a true defined motive for the actions that happened that day. I think the shooter just wanted to kill someone and shoot up things. There was a lot of shooting starting with the doors to gain entrance, then 6 innocent people then shooting at a police officer that went to get his radio which was a blessing in disguise cause that was what led the police to learn shooter was on the second floor. I do wish the TV news would get passed it and quit showing the pictures of the victims as it is like rubbing salt in the wounds of the families....JMHO

[Luckyforward]

8 hours ago, MacGyver said:

As someone who’s read a bunch of manifestos over the years professionally, I can say what I’m about to say with absolute certainty.

Whatever it is that anyone is hoping to find in the shooter’s writings - you're going to be disappointed.

You’re not going to understand it - because there’s nothing to be logically understood. You’re not going to find a reason - because the reason was this person was terribly broken in a way that we don’t - and can’t  understand.

 The manifesto is a red herring - allowing politicians to distract people by calling for their release.

There are a lot of reasons not to release it.  One, like @Snaveba mentioned above - they contain a lot of truly graphic stuff that serves no public good by its release - and may take the trauma victims have suffered and make it worse. Look at what Sandy Hook parents have had to deal with for the last decade, and you’ll understand why they don’t want it released.

But second, and more importantly we don’t release manifestos because there are broken people out there who that stuff *does* inspire. 

Everything stated here is right on target.  As a therapist I have had to read and clinically process manifestos and various writings of persons before and after their death. You never get a well written, well documented "reason" for what the person did.  99.9% is illogical because it is wrapped in the reality of the writer, which only they understand.  

As to releasing this information, it has two results.  It makes a lot of hurting people who are already asking "Why?" hurt even more because there is no comprehensible answer.  Second, emotional healing is like a cut; over time an emotional "scab" forms over the heart and soul.  When a great deal of ambiguous information is released it tears the "scab" from people who are suffering in unimaginable ways, and they have to start the healing process all over again . . .