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Guest 6.8 AR

Y'all just want to get it over and put the chains on earlier, don't you?

Ronald Reagan was being torn apart by the media just like Romney is now. He always by-passed the media

every chance he got, ran a strong positive, populist campaign and projected his goals. It was thought that

he didn't have a chance until a couple months before the election.

Not that this time will be the same, because I doubt Romney could hold to Reagan's principles, but Romney

appears to be going with similar messages and understands what needs to be done. He is diametrically

opposed to what Obama's actions are producing and is actively campaigning against them.

A lot of you espouse to love the NRA. If that's the case, then why don't you pay attention to what they are

saying? They are behind Romney, aren't they? I think some are being guided down the wrong path by one or

two places on the internet and some MSM(yes, places like Time and Newsweek, also) sources. You haven't

made the connection between propaganda and the White House press room and are allowing some real

heavy crap to influence and sway your opinion, but there will always be some like that.

The other thing that mystifies me is that somehow some think that Romney might be kicked off the ticket and Paul

is the man and will come in on a white horse saving the day. You don't understand how the Republican Party

works and who controls the majority. That's a problem for another day and is slowly eroding, anyway. Ever

since Goldwater lost, the Republican Party has been effectively controlled by the Rockefeller style of moderates.

Anyway, it takes more than one position to win in November. Corker has to go, like several other Rockefeller

RINO's and very good progress is being made by the Tea Party crowd. Jim Demint is challenging the GOP in

old, well entrenched Senate seats who are ruining the party for all of us. They need to go. He's winning in

some of them, maybe even enough to gain a Senate majority. He has people like Rand Paul on his side.

I don't know what else to say to someone who is stubborn and wishes to ignore some of the gains, but if it's all

or nothing and you choose nothing by default you aren't going to accomplish anything. We'll just have to see

how this plays out in November. God Bless you cynics.

There's nothing wrong with preparing for the worst, while working towards a workable goal. You live with your

conscience and I'll live with mine.

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Guest Lester Weevils

You don't understand how the Republican Party

works and who controls the majority. That's a problem for another day and is slowly eroding, anyway. Ever

since Goldwater lost, the Republican Party has been effectively controlled by the Rockefeller style of moderates.

"The food tastes bad today."

"It tastes bad every day. Rotten pig slop tastes better."

"With food so bad, how do they stay in business?"

"Beats me. I've been eating here every day for 30 years expecting it to improve but it keeps getting worse."

"They say it will get better with that new cook."

"Yeah he promises to cook like that old guy 20 years ago. He was the best cook so far and only gave me food poisoning a few times per month."

"We'll have to wait and see. Every new cook promises to cook like that old guy."

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Y'all just want to get it over and put the chains on earlier, don't you?

Ronald Reagan was being torn apart by the media just like Romney is now. He always by-passed the media

every chance he got, ran a strong positive, populist campaign and projected his goals. It was thought that

he didn't have a chance until a couple months before the election.

Not that this time will be the same, because I doubt Romney could hold to Reagan's principles, but Romney

appears to be going with similar messages and understands what needs to be done. He is diametrically

opposed to what Obama's actions are producing and is actively campaigning against them.

A lot of you espouse to love the NRA. If that's the case, then why don't you pay attention to what they are

saying? They are behind Romney, aren't they? I think some are being guided down the wrong path by one or

two places on the internet and some MSM(yes, places like Time and Newsweek, also) sources. You haven't

made the connection between propaganda and the White House press room and are allowing some real

heavy crap to influence and sway your opinion, but there will always be some like that.

The other thing that mystifies me is that somehow some think that Romney might be kicked off the ticket and Paul

is the man and will come in on a white horse saving the day. You don't understand how the Republican Party

works and who controls the majority. That's a problem for another day and is slowly eroding, anyway. Ever

since Goldwater lost, the Republican Party has been effectively controlled by the Rockefeller style of moderates.

Anyway, it takes more than one position to win in November. Corker has to go, like several other Rockefeller

RINO's and very good progress is being made by the Tea Party crowd. Jim Demint is challenging the GOP in

old, well entrenched Senate seats who are ruining the party for all of us. They need to go. He's winning in

some of them, maybe even enough to gain a Senate majority. He has people like Rand Paul on his side.

I don't know what else to say to someone who is stubborn and wishes to ignore some of the gains, but if it's all

or nothing and you choose nothing by default you aren't going to accomplish anything. We'll just have to see

how this plays out in November. God Bless you cynics.

There's nothing wrong with preparing for the worst, while working towards a workable goal. You live with your

conscience and I'll live with mine.

The good news is that Tennesse will go Romney no matter what. If somebody feels like writing in some obscure candidate, this is the place to do it. I'm just hoping Romney's money can overpower Obama's smart strategists in the swing states. Obama may be a crappy president, but he (his people) is capable of running a helluva campaign.

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Guest ThePunisher

Still doesn't change the fact Romney did sign an AWB into law in his state.

Dolomite

Read 6.8's well written and astute post #52

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Read 6.8's well written and astute post #52

And how does 6.8's post change the fact that what I said is fact. Romney signed into law, while he was at the helm, a very sweeping assault weapons bans as well as some other very hard hitting gun laws. And I believe if he found the same sweeping law waiting on his signature while he sat in the Whitehouse he would do the same except on a national level.

Doesn't mean I am going to vote for Obama or anyone else for tha matter. Just that he is not a friend to gun owners.

I guess if we, as gun owners, keep telling ourself he is our friend it will be easier to swallow when we have to vote for him in November. He is a just as dangerous as Obama but just not as quick. What Obama will try to do in his second 4 years Romney will take 8 to do the same. But hey its OK because he is a business man and will fix the economy.

Dolomite

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Obama said to Mr. Medvedev recently, "After my election, I have more flexibility."

"With one person dying every minute because of armed violence, there is an imperative for powerful states to lead. President Obama has asked for more time to reach an agreement. How much more time does he want?" - Sailil Shetty, Secretary General of Amnesty International on 7/27/2012

Obama's answer is obvious- "This is my last election."

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Guest ThePunisher

And how does 6.8's post change the fact that what I said is fact. Romney signed into law, while he was at the helm, a very sweeping assault weapons bans as well as some other very hard hitting gun laws. And I believe if he found the same sweeping law waiting on his signature while he sat in the Whitehouse he would do the same except on a national level.

Doesn't mean I am going to vote for Obama or anyone else for tha matter. Just that he is not a friend to gun owners.

I guess if we, as gun owners, keep telling ourself he is our friend it will be easier to swallow when we have to vote for him in November. He is a just as dangerous as Obama but just not as quick. What Obama will try to do in his second 4 years Romney will take 8 to do the same. But hey its OK because he is a business man and will fix the economy.

Dolomite

According to you and others here, we're screwed no matter which one is president. I make my judgement on Obummer by what I've seen of his policies and his lies the last 4 years, and also reserching his ideology, crony connections, and lack of real knowledge he refuses to reveal about himself. There is certainly not any doubt about his Marxist ideology, and his intentions of transforming America into Amerika.

As for Romney, I only know that he had a record as Repubican Governor of the second most liberal commie state of the union where he wasn't working with a republican majority in the Mass. legislature. How he even got elected as Republican Governor in Mass. is a tribute to his abilities as a businessman and first time effort at running for political office. It took real courage to run as a Republican for governor in such a liberal democratic state as Mass.

Based on the records and knowledge of Obama and Romey, with both having executive political experience, one being POTUS and the other a governor of a liberal state, I would take my chances of Romney turning our country back to American principles of constitutional government and capitalism instead of Obama's Marxism/socialism and Sharia law that will doom our nation from America to Amerika.

The deciding factor in my decision is that I know without a doubt, that Obama is a Marxist commie trying to destroy my country I've always loved and known with liberties and freedoms.

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Guest ThePunisher

Can't stand it that I may not vote for your guy, eh?

I suspect that you voted for Obama the last time, but that is OK, this is America so far, and you can choose anyone you like.

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I suspect that you voted for Obama the last time, but that is OK, this is America so far, and you can choose anyone you like.

You have NO idea how wrong you are. But, hey, this is America, and you can believe whatever you like.

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According to you and others here, we're screwed no matter which one is president. I make my judgement on Obummer by what I've seen of his policies and his lies the last 4 years, and also reserching his ideology, crony connections, and lack of real knowledge he refuses to reveal about himself. There is certainly not any doubt about his Marxist ideology, and his intentions of transforming America into Amerika.

As for Romney, I only know that he had a record as Repubican Governor of the second most liberal commie state of the union where he wasn't working with a republican majority in the Mass. legislature. How he even got elected as Republican Governor in Mass. is a tribute to his abilities as a businessman and first time effort at running for political office. It took real courage to run as a Republican for governor in such a liberal democratic state as Mass.

Based on the records and knowledge of Obama and Romey, with both having executive political experience, one being POTUS and the other a governor of a liberal state, I would take my chances of Romney turning our country back to American principles of constitutional government and capitalism instead of Obama's Marxism/socialism and Sharia law that will doom our nation from America to Amerika.

The deciding factor in my decision is that I know without a doubt, that Obama is a Marxist commie trying to destroy my country I've always loved and known with liberties and freedoms.

I have been saying Romney is not gun friendly not that he will ruin the country. Romney's business pactices are no doubt going to be better than Obama's. But Romney's view on guns alone aren't that far off from Obama's. Romney is going to be the worst for us gunowners (not the country) since Clinton if Romney gets elected, which I hope he does just to oust Obama. Obama has ruined the country but has left us gunowners alone for the most part since taking office. I suspect that no matter who wins the gun owners are going to suffer. And remember almost any gun law that gets passed will likely be permanent this time around. And there is ZERO chance for a law to be repealed once it has passed.

Dolomite

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Guest ThePunisher

I have been saying Romney is not gun friendly not that he will ruin the country. Romney's business pactices are no doubt going to be better than Obama's. But Romney's view on guns alone aren't that far off from Obama's. Romney is going to be the worst for us gunowners (not the country) since Clinton if Romney gets elected, which I hope he does just to oust Obama. Obama has ruined the country but has left us gunowners alone for the most part since taking office. I suspect that no matter who wins the gun owners are going to suffer. And remember almost any gun law that gets passed wil.l likely be permanent this time around. And there is ZERO chance for a law to be repealed once it has passed.

Dolomite

Dolomite

I believe if Romney wins and we get control of the House and Senate, we won't have to worry about any more gun control laws for awhile.

Glad to know you want Obama out.

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Dolomite

I believe if Romney wins and we get control of the House and Senate, we won't have to worry about any more gun control laws for awhile.

Glad to know you want Obama out.

Agree.

My biggest focus now will be voting out any encumbent. I want to send a message that I do not want any more lifetime members of congress. I want our representatives to know that when they take office they will be back in the workforce the next election. It is only when they realize they are going to have to go back to a real job that they will make changes to improve it for those who have real jobs.

Even if we get saddled with Obama we can slow some of his agenda by holding the house and senate. Even if Obama vetos a bill it can still be passed with a 2/3's vote in the senate. The senate is the most important because they are the ones who override any veto.

Dolomite

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Guest ThePunisher

The guy in the video talks of freedom, and yet a fool knows that Obama is taking our freedoms everyday by trampling the constitution with his executive orders and would already have taken more if he had a more liberal SCOTUS. He says we will be better with 4 more years of Obama. Yeah...right.. sure we will.

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Guest Lester Weevils

According to you and others here, we're screwed no matter which one is president.

Hi Mr P

Glancing over Romney's crony connections, you are probably correct.

Send Romney your salary til election day for all I care. Just keep your eyes open, no blind faith in ANY information source. Not tryin to tell ya what to do, I just feel for ya if you go hook line and sinker then get disappointed. You already know that Obama sux so there is no need further researching that joker. It won't hurt you to spend time looking at Romney details. Not to change your vote. Assuming Romney wins, if you can guess how things might unfold then maybe you can benefit compared to those entirely blindsided by whatever happens.

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Guest ThePunisher

Hi Mr P

Glancing over Romney's crony connections, you are probably correct.

Send Romney your salary til election day for all I care. Just keep your eyes open, no blind faith in ANY information source. Not tryin to tell ya what to do, I just feel for ya if you go hook line and sinker then get disappointed. You already know that Obama sux so there is no need further researching that joker. It won't hurt you to spend time looking at Romney details. Not to change your vote. Assuming Romney wins, if you can guess how things might unfold then maybe you can benefit compared to those entirely blindsided by whatever happens.

Lester

It appears that a whole bunch of people went hook line and sinker with the commie in 08', and look at the results our country got; the first Marxist/commie to sit in Oval office in our history. The MSM would not vette the commie, but there still was enough knowledge out there to know Barry was a Marxist/commie; I knew it, and a lot of other people knew it.

Although Romney is not conservative enough for me, he still is the most conservative a candidate that we may ever get to run for POTUS as Oh Shoot notes, until the crash. I would blindly vote for a monkey before I would ever pull the lever for Obama or a third party candidate that would only ensure O's re-election. I know what is in store for our nation if we get 4 more years of Obummer; total destruction and collapse of our economy, complete trampling and disregard of our constitution, and lost liberty and freedoms. Obama's dream and plans for an Amerika is not acceptable to me, because I've always known my country as America.

Romney is the only choice our country has of displacing the commie from the WH. Whether or not he will be a good or bad president, we will only know if he gets elected, just like it has always been the case in our history of presidents. But knowing what we've got with Obummer, our country can not take the chance of re-electing the commie.

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Guest 6.8 AR

That video is partially correct. He's just naming the wrong people who don't want Ron Paul, or for that matter,

any real conservative. It's the internal control by the Rockefeller crowd, the McCain types who reach across the

aisle, the ones who have accepted cronyism within the Republican Party.

I wish I could agree with him that the Republicans would fall into line and vote for a Ron Paul, but a similar group

of Republican voters would most likely not show up to vote, similar to the effect that McCain felt when he showed

he was actually a pansy of a politician instead of the so-called "maverick". Just the primary process alienates a lot

of voters when their choice gets tossed out. There is the effect of "grab my toys and go home" mentality scattered

through the whole process.

I know how I am going to vote and you do, too, so jab away at each other. That's what we have to work with. The

chips will fall in November.

Maybe this is what the Democrats really wanted with a Romney primary win. They may have been right in their

tactics.

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Guest ThePunisher

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Maybe this is what the Democrats really wanted with a Romney primary win. They may have been right in their

tactics.

Don't give the Dumacrats too much credit, their idiocy has really been showing lately. And I believe that Romney has got them a little worried.

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This has nothing specific to to with the topic of the thread but I'm wondering who among us (and it may be many) who feel they need or should give reputation points (negative or positive) to posters based on what that poster says about a candidate or issue?

It was my understanding, based on David's post on the subject, that reputation points was not intended to become a popularity contest but it looks to me as if that's exactly what they are being used for, at least when it comes to posts about political issues or candidates.

I would hope that we are grown up enough that we can disagree with each other without making it personal but maybe that's a false hope.

Okay..soap box put away now...have a nice day.

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