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[quote]Unfortuantely we are going to see our economy collapse from his policies. For everyone who hates big business and the millionaires they are the ones who create jobs, not the government. Governement, now, is only there to take away from those who work hard so those who don't work hard can live better than they should.[/quote]

Dow is down nearly 300 points day one. Welcome to the Socialist revolution.
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[quote name='nysos' timestamp='1352313641' post='841171']
Canada is starting to loosen up some of their gun laws, that is my prime choice at the moment.
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Press 1 for English or 2 for French. No thanks. I'm moving to Texas. I figure they're about ready to seal the borders.
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You will get what you ask for (and deserve) in voting for him.

A representative Republic can only stand until people realize they can vote themselves prosperity.

I now feel like a fool for risking my life in war(s) for people like you. Edited by 141FE
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[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352313806' post='841175']

Press 1 for English or 2 for French. No thanks. I'm moving to Texas. I figure they're about ready to seal the borders.[/quote]

It is actually written in there constitution that they can leave if they they want. They are self sustaining have a major port decent military.


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[quote name='Lions Fan' timestamp='1352311252' post='841118']I don't think Obama is doing a great job, could Romney do better, I don't know. I just think that if you are having finanical issues you take that to a person that has financial experience. If you are having diplomacy issues you take that to a carrer politician. I think that right now our financial issues here in the US are worse off than the diplomacy issues. I did not think that Romney was going to save the country but I thought he could slow the bleeding.[/quote]

I'm kind of with you on this one. R is a successful business man. Couldn't someone like that help the economy? It doesn't matter at this point anyway. It's time to save up, strap in, hold on.


TNBrat :) Hiding in the woods… ;)

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It is actually written in there constitution that they can leave if they they want. They are self sustaining have a major port decent military.


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I've lived there twice. The subject comes up. I'm betting it has reached a dull roar about now.
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[quote name='jtmaze' timestamp='1352314492' post='841191']
It is actually written in there constitution that they can leave if they they want. They are self sustaining have a major port decent military.


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Texas does sound more appealing than Canada. Canada is down to #2 on the list, and Texas is #1 if it secedes.
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[quote name='nysos' timestamp='1352315458' post='841205']
Texas does sound more appealing than Canada. Canada is down to #2 on the list, and Texas is #1 if it secedes.
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They stay in a state of patial secession. :) I won't be living with a bunch of frozen liberals. I like most of the Canadians I've met, but you can have that place.

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I have a favorite quote from Sam Adams that I like to tell people from time to time when the political disscusion gets deep

"If you desire wealth more than liberity,the tranquility of servitude over the antimating contest of freedom.-then go from us in peace,we seek not your counsels or arms.Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you,may your chains rest lightly upon you,and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Edited by jcoosi
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[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352315214' post='841201']
I've lived there twice. The subject comes up. I'm betting it has reached a dull roar about now.
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This morning, Davy Crockett's famous line of "Y'all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas." was going through my mind.

But then, I thought back to my two years spent in Houston. You can't find a pork sandwich down there to save your life.
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[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352311162' post='841115']
I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop
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I'll just assume this is a joke/sarcasm post just to stir up some other good posts because everybody knows the economy is getting worse and unemployment is on the rise because the media hides the numbers of people who gave up on looking for work and are not recieving unemployment benifits. I know there are some naive people who swallow the crap MSNBC feeds them, and many who have some pipe dream that things are getting better but reality is far different from the fantacy some are living in.
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[quote name='MacGyver' timestamp='1352316619' post='841221']
This morning, Davy Crockett's famous line of "Y'all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas." was going through my mind.

But then, I thought back to my two years spent in Houston. You can't find a pork sandwich down there to save your life.
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Houston for me too. There's plenty of pork down there, and it's free. I have a smoker, and a pretty good way to get free pork. :)

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[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352311162' post='841115']
I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop
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So in other words, you don't really have an answer to my earlier questions. I was asking for an honest response on WHY you think he's doing a good job and HOW you quantify that belief. You don't appear to have that info.

The economy is worse now than when he took office, the national debt is higher, the deficit is higher, and job growth is at a crawl except for the government sector. He's proposed no policies to fix Social Security, Medicare, or entitlement spending. He hasn't proposed any policy to address immigration. He has yet to propose a successful policy approach to energy problems. His foreign policy ideas are primarily extensions of Bush-era policies or quite similar to Romney's. He has not redeemed the USA in the eyes of the international community, we are still engaged in armed conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's ignored atrocities/genocide in Darfur and Syria. He oversaw the Benghazi debacle. He oversaw the "Fast and Furious" debacle. He hasn't gotten ONE SINGLE VOTE from Republicans or Democrats in Congress for his proposed budgets nor has he been able to lead a compromise between the two parties on budget issues. He oversaw the passage of the healthcare reform act, which most Americans don't approve of, that he's exempted dozens of businesses from, and that he had to lie to sell to the American people (hence the penalty vs. tax issue). Violent crime increased last year for the first time in almost 2 decades. He's increased the use of federal authorities to raid state-sanctioned medical marijuana facilities in conflict with his campaign promises. He's appointed members of special interest groups to positions in his administration in conflict with his campaign promises. He took a meaningless stance on same-sex marriage. His own administration has the gender-based pay disparities he claims to abhor. Crime and unemployment is at extraordinary high levels within the black community. He's apparently doing such a good job that he won by a much smaller margin this year than in 2008.

Please tell me one single clear achievement that demonstrates he's doing a good job.
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