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If you look at the election map


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If you look at the election map
[url="http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/House/2012/"]http://www.politico....p/#/House/2012/[/url] it tells me one thing. It appears Most republicans try to avoid living in high population centers. They win tons of area, but lower on population areas and electoral votes.
A lot of the wide open plains.

I understand why they avoid NY and places like that. Edited by vontar
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[quote name='East_TN_Patriot' timestamp='1352328358' post='841386']
Yes, and our country is constantly shifting from rural to urban. I was thinking about this last night. I am afraid we may see a point when the urban centers far outnumber the rest of the country and their ideologies dominate.
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A vast majority of American already live in "urban" areas....

[url="http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html"]http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html[/url]
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[quote name='gjohnsoniv' timestamp='1352348717' post='841651']
Amazing how the smaller space controls the larger.
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It's a matter of quantity over quality.
I find it funny that such a large number if people want to live in such a small space.
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[quote name='AK Guy' timestamp='1352347512' post='841635']
If you look at the map by counties, its nearly all red. The only blue counties are the ones with major cities. Interesting.
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I think if we had another map showing where most of the government handouts are, it would explain what happened. Edited by greenego
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This guy up at the University of Michigan did a series of maps in 2008, and he's now updated them for 2012. He starts with the basic Red State Blue State, then starts distorting the map to allow for population density. Then he shows the red counties vs blue counties layout, and then distorts that map based on population density. Then lastly he uses color gradients (blue/purple/red) to show how split we really are. Even in the "deeply red" and "deeply blue" sections of the country, we are split more than you'd think. Fascinating stuff.

[url="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/"]http://www-personal..../election/2012/[/url]

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymappurple1024.png[/img]
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What blows my mind is my home state of Michigan and the heavy automotive and supplier industry. 2009/2010 they have a complete meltdown in the automotive, banking and housing market affecting nearly every resident. Many residents lose everything. Countless families leave the state. The only thing I have to compare to it is what I know of the Great Depression.

Automakers go belly up, countless automotive suppliers go belly up and Big Brother comes to rescue the UAW. GM stock becomes worthless during a bailout scheme (that all taxpayers get to pay for), which in turn, renders countless retirements based on GM stock worthless. GM comes out with new stock now owned by the UAW and Big Brother - again at taxpayer expense. Electric cars are mandated and battery plants are created in SW Michigan ......... Big surprise that they went under as well - all funded once again by the taxpayers.

And what do they do? Vote the same party back in again ......... Why? Because the same UAW, union and government leaders getting the bribes, kickbacks and payouts at taxpayer expense plea to the unionized workers to vote the same way they always have. Look at the demographics ......... tiny bits of Blue concentrated in the slums and inner neighborhoods of large, industrial, unionized cities, colleges and universities.

It really sucks and is soooo frustrating to always be out-voted by such a small number of counties - but we were used to that in Michigan. We thought maybe, just maybe, this time would be different.......... but we were dead wrong and the residents will continue to suffer.
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[quote name='BryanP' timestamp='1352469723' post='842393']
This guy up at the University of Michigan did a series of maps in 2008, and he's now updated them for 2012. He starts with the basic Red State Blue State, then starts distorting the map to allow for population density. Then he shows the red counties vs blue counties layout, and then distorts that map based on population density. Then lastly he uses color gradients (blue/purple/red) to show how split we really are. Even in the "deeply red" and "deeply blue" sections of the country, we are split more than you'd think. Fascinating stuff.

[url="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/"]http://www-personal..../election/2012/[/url]

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Very interesting how this....

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymaprb512.png[/img]

Translates into this because of population density...

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/statemap512.png[/img]
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