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I was at the gun show in Knoxville and just bought a 100 bag of 9's...........oh well.  Should have past this post up.......yikes :down:

 

Did you get it from Georgia Arms or one of those zip-lock baggie guys?

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a couple of years ago the grandfather of a coworker died.  When they were cleaning out his house they found a bunch of .38 Special's and .357 Magnum's.  He gave them all to me.  Was over 500 rounds iirc.  All were reloads his grandfather had made.  

 

I have shot a lot of them.  They are about as accurate as any rounds I have ever shot.   

 

My co worker had told me previously about his grandpaws passion for guns and reloading.

 

I use them without hesitation.

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There are some that I trust and many that I would not. As someone else pointed out we are all perfectly capable of making our own mistakes, so what makes the chance that we take with ourselves less probable than what it is with someone you trust? Why would you trust someone that you don't know at a factory more than you trust someone that you do know? Considering recent ammo plant explosions, disgruntled employees, etc, why would you trust any factory ammo for that matter?

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Why i only use powder which, if i accidentally double charge, will always overflow the case. Bullseye scares the crap out of me

 

When I was looking to get started reloading, I talked with the LGS owner (who also reloads) about good powders to use for .38 Special and .44 Magnum.  He pulled one of the reloading manuals off the shelf and we took a look at it.  He said that when he was first starting out he liked Accurate #5 for loading .38 Special (and Accurate #7 for .44 Magnum).  He showed me in the book that the recipes generally called for bigger charges of those, respective powders as compared to others and said you won't get as many loads out of a pound but, because they use a little more per load, you will probably know at a glance if you have accidentally double charged a case.  I don't load high volumes of rounds, anyhow, and have liked the results from #5 so there is a good chance I will stick with it as long as I can find it when I need it.

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There are only a couple people in this world I can think of I would trust enough to shoot their reloads. I've often wondered about commercial reloads though. Never tried any, and don't really plan to, but the cheaper price can be tempting at times

 

Southwest Ammo will precision reload rifle rounds. They make a pretty nice product for people that don't want to hand load but need a match grade round. 

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That Smith doesn't look nearly as bad as the 629 that tried to digest 21.5 grains of Bullseye at the range. He was going for 11.5 grs. Just misread his scale. Fortunately no one hurt but his Dad commented from behind, "I think something came off that gun"! The weapon was sent back to Smith to see if they would compensate in any way. They sent back a letter stating the Powder and Charge within .5 a grain. And they did offer to replace at dealer cost.  He bought a Redhawk from me and commented that the Ruger might just be able to take that overcharged round! Too funny. 

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Not a story about someone else's reloads but about a guy I met shooting his own at Norris. He had been having some problems with his AR so I offered to take a look. When you pulled the trigger it would not fire, almost like it was on safe. I looked down inside the receiver and there was a primer that was in the bottom. I didn't think anything about it and shook it out. I told him he had a primer under his trigger and that was causing the problem. Knowing brass primer pockets can get loose over time I asked how many times the brass had been reloaded. He said he had no clue but he has been using the same brass for a long time. Next I asked him how much powder he was using. His reply, I swear, was "to the top". I asked what he meant and he said he would fill the case to the top of the case mouth then seat the bullet. At first I thought he was joking but he was serious. Then I thought that maybe the measured charge came to the top so I asked how much it weighed and he said he doesn't weigh the powder, just fill the case up. I told him he is lucky he hasn't hurt himself and he acted like I had insulted him.

 

When I got there I had my wife throw a bunch of clays on a bank past the 100 yard line. As I was shooting I guess I hit a couple of this guys clays. Same guy got extremely upset and yelled at me about shooting his clays. I apologized and put a stack of clays on his bench. Then he had to complain about the walk out there. I was on my crutches that I use to walk and he said I had no clue what kind of inconvenience it was to have to walk 100 yards. I chuckled and left.

 

Sorry you had to deal with such a moron, but the story should be a good lesson for those that think they don't need some guidance before they start reloading.

Of course they will not likely read anything posted in this section.

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There is exactly one person's reloads I will use besides mine, and he loads on the same equipment with the same components I use.  And he's probably the only person that is more OCD than I am.

 

The reason I don't let others use my reloads is simple.  If they malfunction on me and something catastrophic happens, I know I won't sue me.  No matter who it is or what they've said, after the bang, looking down at a mangled bloody stump and twisted hunk of metal tends to get people into "Lawyer-Up" mode real quick.

 

Mac

 

FWIW, I used to run a Tanfoglio Gold Custom open class gun in .38 SuperComp.  When I loaded for it, it was 7.2g of VV N350 on a 125g bullet.  The powder ALMOST filled up the case, and seating the bullet created a compressed charge.  This was all done on purpose.  Needless to say, no one shot that thing except for me.  Tell you what, though, flirting with disaster aside, pumping out 1300+fps 9MM rounds with NO recoil was a hoot!

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That Smith doesn't look nearly as bad as the 629 that tried to digest 21.5 grains of Bullseye at the range. He was going for 11.5 grs. Just misread his scale. Fortunately no one hurt but his Dad commented from behind, "I think something came off that gun"! The weapon was sent back to Smith to see if they would compensate in any way. They sent back a letter stating the Powder and Charge within .5 a grain. And they did offer to replace at dealer cost. He bought a Redhawk from me and commented that the Ruger might just be able to take that overcharged round! Too funny.

I did something similar a long time ago. I had accidentally bumped the balance on my scale up by 5 grains. When I triggered one of those off, I knew something was wrong.

Fortunately, I WAS shooting a Ruger Redhawk. And the powder was H110. There were imprints of the breech face on the case heads, but the Ruger didn't seem to mind. Edited by Clod Stomper
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