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Also, I would really, really, really like to hear your thoughts on Satan and Eve getting it on. Assuming that the bible is your source, how do you get that from this?
4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Adam knew Eve, they bore Cain. A+B (E really in this case) = C
Study from the Hebrew, the original language.
The word lord is NOT God/Creator but another lord/master/owner.
She CONTINUED in birth, twins.
Cain did not obey God.........of the other seed.
Cain is not of Adam's descendants.
The serpent was NOT a serpent until he was cursed to be a serpent. To eat dust (man), to nip at his heal (to be man's adversary).
The creature was the most cunning (shinny, meaning cunning or the smartest) of all creatures on earth........It was Lucifer in the form of a man.
There were others, Adam was not the first human.
Two adams (man), Gen1 and Gen2.......go read it.
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Freed us from the CURSE of the Law (Torah) which is death.
You really need to study apart from the christian POV.
For that matter-
God divorced Israel. The only way God can remarry Israel is if Israel's husband dies.........go to the Law.
This is the reason the Messiah was murdered.
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And second?
If you are called, God will deal with you.
Between you and him.
I'll leave you all with this-
Proverbs 28:9
If anyone turns a deaf ear to my instruction (Torah), even their prayers are detestable.
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Thus should one become circumcised if uncircumcised?
Circumcision of the heart comes first.
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10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air.13 Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."14 "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."15 The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
Again, has nothing to do with meats.
You will have to read the ENTIRE bible to understand what is really going on here.
Gentiles, nations, uncircumcised, people of other nations, the others, non jews as you would know them.
The Gospel or 'good news' was that the gentiles, peoples of other nations, could now join the faith, could now receive salvation, could now join the jews.
The jews saw the gentiles as unclean and they would not eat with them, would not associate with them.
The gentiles, those who Shaul (Paul) sought out, were not gentiles at all, they were Israelites. Those with 'ears to hear and eyes to see', the called out ones. Those who had lost their identities. God was calling them back to the faith, to follow Torah. Just as he is today.
Peter would sit with the gentiles and break bread. When the jews were present Peter would disassociate himself with the gentiles (Israelites) and join with the jews. This caused further confusion among the gentiles, strife.
This is what God was showing Peter, that the gentiles were really God's people.
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FWIW-
Someone posted Mark 7, this has nothing to do with meat/pork or unclean meats/foods.
That Which Defiles
7 The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus 2 and saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. 3 (The Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they give their hands a ceremonial washing, holding to the tradition of the elders. 4 When they come from the marketplace they do not eat unless they wash. And they observe many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pitchers and kettles.[a])
5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[b]8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
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Isaiah 66:17
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
It's my perception that the one tree in the midst is the crucifix, pagan symbol. (Messiah was actually murdered on a stake, not a cross)
Pig eaters will be destroyed. They refuse to follow God's instruction.
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Profile pic fits. No offense.
As does yours, apparently.
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While I wont claim to be a religious scholar, I did have a religious education.
Most of my bible seems to point towards the Gospel, and I'm definitely not seeing that here - either in this thread or in our actions towards those who aren't like us. Truthfully, my reading of the Old Testament seems to be pretty concerned with the treatment of the foreigner/strangers in our midst.
There will always be folks who look to use religion to further their own power - I just don't see reading the bible like some secret code book pointing towards white conservative American superiority.The Gospel can be found in Genesis.
I won't bother with that here, most are not interested anyway.
There is really nothing new regarding the NT. Besides, it's one testament, not two.
As to amerikan superiority? that's your assertion.
Blessings have always been lands. This land was a blessing, the blessing has since been removed.
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@Shepherd Master
Unless you care to further explain what you actually do believe, I'm calling this.
You follow something along the lines Messianic Judaism. You have a mixing of the above "White Identity" whether you realize it or not, sometimes it is easy to go along with a belief you have been sold on without entirely identifying with the root; I am not yet sure how deep your root in Christian Identity is.
You believe that Jesus was and is the Messiah, but you also want to bring along the traditions of the Jews along with it such as dietary restrictions, Saturday Sabbath, etc.
You are Irish, Dan. You find conflicting emotions from this because you feel you are hated for that reason.
I suspect you do believe something along the lines that non-caucasians have no soul. This would explain your eagerness to go shoot vans of Syrians, because in your mind their destiny is sealed and have no chance of anything but perish.
You wouldn't lie for a 5% discount claiming that you are Christian, so I wouldn't expect you to lie here. But I do suspect you will not quickly own up to what you do believe.
What I believe is precisely what the Scriptures say.
Not what man says it says.
I reject the traditions of man, christianity and judaism and paganism.
as to the 5% discount? My faith is not for sale. Money changers come to mind, hypocrisy.
I have no idea where you get that non whites have no soul? Soul is the entire being.......it must be the spirit you are referring to...?
As for my identity?
This is my identity-
Exodus 31:13
"Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.
Yes, I keep the Sabbath, the 7th day.
The Mark of the Beast is the 1st day (sunday).
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You got that right. I can't recall where it is in The Bible right now, but it is written in the new testament that Jesus was plain-looking. I chuckle at the people who look at the painting, (well, copies of it anyway), of an artist's rendition of what Jesus looked like that was painted hundreds of years after He died and think it really is a picture of Jesus.
Actually not in the NT, but the OT-
Isiah 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
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Wow, "non-Caucasian peoples have no souls and therefore can never earn God's favor or be saved" and such.
And I thought maybe he was just a misguided Pastafarian or something. ;)
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Who said anything about race?
Wasn't me.
This is the most popular one I grew up around, at least among Baptists. How could them folks not like hippies too? :)
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What part of the second Commandment don't you understand?
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am o jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of then that hate me; and shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.' Exod 20: 4-6.
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Oh, well thanks for explaining that.
I'd pull out my handy dandy Constitution pocketbook and thank God that it exists, but I suppose God would not approve of all those pesky little freedoms guaranteed in there. Instead, I'll just thank the founding fathers.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou are guaranteed nothing.
And you have lost most of what you think you have.
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My conclusion, unless you go into actual meaningful discussion rather than point, jab, and deflect, is that you identify yourself as one of the "super sects" of Christianity or
Judaism. I am not familiar with all of these so I cannot comment, but it seems to fit.Unless you are a political troll or undercover Muslim.I'm affiliated with no one, no sect, no cult, no church.
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Wouldn't participate in a rifle drawing...afraid of gambling?
It is a biblical principle...
The rifle isn't worth my time or yours.
Has nothing to do with a belief system.
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If you aren't a Christian, who are you gonna repent to?
The Creator, God of the bible.
To repent is to turn to his instruction, Torah.
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So...quotes a lot of passages from the bible, going into lengthy detail about what it means, etc.
Advocates going and shooting at buses full of refugees.
Calls everyone else stupid and claims to be enlightened himself.
Troll? Muslim?
Instead of playing smoke and mirrors why not tell us what you really think.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkInteresting how you insert yourself.
I called no one stupid.
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You have spewed nonsense the pipit this thread yet you have not mentioned one practical thing we or YOU could do to change this. Oh besides shooting at refugee buses.
You will not change this.
You cannot even identify the problem.
There are two answers.
1) As a nation we must repent, as a people. This will not happen until it is too late, and even then..........
2) There was a reason in the OT that God commanded so much slaughter. It was not because he is a blood thirsty god. It was to protect the Righteous people, his people. Protect them from being destroyed from within. To protect them from worshiping other gods. This is the main reason we are not to inter-marry with other peoples/cultures.
Foreigners were to be treated fairly, kindly, but they were also to keep and obey the laws of God, if they refused they were expelled or killed.
We are now a lawless nation, with no identity, no borders. Anarchy.
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Im so glad you are here to enlighten all us simple folk.
OK, since you are simple, I'll ask the same simple question again-
Why are we (US) being flooded with Syrian men of military age?
Answer that simple question.
US rejects 'christian' refugees, admits muslim refugees.
Just yesterday
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/obama-shameful-not-american-to-reject-syrian-refugees-567787587888
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This is straight up Christian Identity teaching. So I'll go ahead and ask the elephant in the room directly so we can know with whom we are really dealing with here. What white supremacist orgs are you currently or have in the past been a member of? You can deny the source of your words, but as you referenced earlier in relation to the president, we will know by the fruits. Your poisonous fruit makes what you are abundantly clear. If you would kindly take that crap somewhere else it would be much appreciated. You will not find fertile soil for those rotten seeds here.
Firstly, I'm not christian........you should have figured that out by now.
Secondly, I'm not a racist, nor a suprematist. What I stated had nothing to do with race.
The White Hut comment is a reference to Obummer being a third worlder, with a third world mentality, who see you as a white colonialist. He and his ilk are the racists.
Borders, language, culture.........and we've lost it. It is YOU who bought the lie of multi-culturalism.
Learn something-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQlvsP4Xp0
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Do you actually believe this stuff?
That doesn't even scratch the surface.
It's a funny thing........people..........
It matters not what YOU believe, it matters what others believe.
OTHERS act out on their beliefs.
Give you an example:
What is actually taking place here is an act of Shame.
Obama was raised within a near east culture, he understands biblical Honor and Shame.
Obama is Honoring Islam and Shaming the God of the bible and his people/nations.
For one to be Honored the other must be equally Shamed.
Honor and Shame is a biblical principle.
Do I think Obummer is a muzzie, Yep. You'll know him by his fruits.
And BTW, most of you consider yourselves to be 'christian', the Islamist is more educated about the christian bible than you are.
Amerikans/westerners have no idea what's really go on here.
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III% be damned, you're the .01%
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkExplain why the King of the White Hut and his regime are hell bent on diluting our population with people from the south and the ME?
Edit: has nothing to do with politics or votes.
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If by "them" you're referring to those whom aren't willing to stand beside you in a firing line when the buses pull up...you're talking about basically everyone on this site.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm talking about the 99.999999%
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Tell you what, you lead...I'm sure there's liable to be at least one more that'll follow
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI tried to educate the Sheeple for many years, to alert them as to what was coming.
No, I got out of the herd.
Let them suffer.
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Yep. What's Bill or any other guv gonna do, meet the federal immigration buses at the state line and fire on them?
And sure, after the fact, anyone with a green card can legally go anywhere he likes -- hell, realistically even total illegals can, eh?
I still say this whole hoopla is a drop in the bucket compared to the ongoing threat of radicalized second and third generation Muslim US nationals, regardless of what part of the world from which they originally immigrated. That one possible Syrian refugee kid in Paris didn't make that happen, it was all the French and Belgian citizens that did it.
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No.
If there were any good (real) men left in this country......they would fire on it.
But, there isn't.
And I ain't a martyr for a bunch of idiots.
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Terror attack in France
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You may find this interesting-
The good and the bad seed. One hears one doesn't.
Kenite
Strongs 7017 Hebrew.
patron from 7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe Kajin.
Kajin
Strongs 7014 Hebrew
Same as 7013 Kajin, the name of the first child. Cain, Kenite.
Kenite first appears in Genesis 15:19.
Then, having sent the crowds away, יהושע went into the house. And His taught ones came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the darnel of the field.” And He answering, said to them, “He who is sowing the good seed is the Son of Aḏam, and the field is the world. And the good seed, these are the sons of the reign, but the darnel are the sons of the wicked one, and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. And the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the messengers. “As the darnel, then, is gathered and burned in the fire, so it shall be at the end of this age.
Matthew 13:36-40
Messiah links the devil and murderer in the same seed line.
They answered and said to Him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you are Abraham's children, do the deeds of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God." Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God."
John 8:39-47
Cain was the first murderer in scripture.
There is no Cain shown in the genealogy of Adam.
This is the book of the genealogy of Aḏam. In the day that Elohim created man, He made him in the likeness of Elohim. Male and female He created them, and He blessed them, and called their name ‘Aḏam’ in the day they were created. And Aḏam lived one hundred and thirty years, and brought forth a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name Shĕth. And after he brought forth Shĕth, the days of Aḏam were eight hundred years. And he brought forth sons and daughters. So all the days that Aḏam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died.
Genesis 5:1-5
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