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I got my permit in the mail on Friday. That's 11 calendar days from when I applied for anyone that's counting.
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2 hours ago, dawgdoc said:
The original reason why people had to go to the Probate Judge to apply for a license was so that the white judge could determine if the applicant was an undesirable character (meaning black). In fact, just about every gun control law in Georgia has its roots in racism with the goal to keep blacks disarmed After seeing that report about the Floridian who was hassled up north (Maryland, I think), I think it is a good idea to have a fragmented system to prevent a central database. In his case, it appeared that the LEO had some way to access the fact that the guy had a CC license even though the guy was not carrying and did not tell the LEO. In the case of Dekalb county (where I was born, FWIW), I think the legislature needs to put in severe, enforceable penalties for the Probate judges who violate the time constraints of the law.
I remember seeing someone comment that Dekalb Probate gives excuses like paperwork backlog as to why they can't get Georgia Weapons Carry License issued in the required amount of time, yet once gay marriage was legalized, they were ready and eager to issue those marriage licenses.
The Dekalb PD told me that they had 90 business days to process my background check, then called me a liar when I tried to correct them with the relevant GA code. The probate judge just sort of shrugs and says she's at the mercy of the PD to return background info to her, which while true doesn't absolve her of of her duty to hold them accountable. The problem under current GA law is that you can really only sue if you're denied a license on bogus grounds. There's no real recourse against taking longer than is allowed by law since the suit will (and has been) declared moot as soon as a license is issued.
As to my comment on the fragmented process, I agree that having a searchable database of license holders raises a lot of privacy concerns. My point wasn't that privacy isn't a concern, but rather that Georgians traded the potential efficiency of a uniform statewide process for a completely false sense of privacy. There may not be a database available to every local LEO, but if you have to pass an FBI and GBI background check you're on a list somewhere (to say nothing of the fact that the physical cards are all printed by one company).
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I'm going to try my hand at IDPA and/or USPSA at the ORSA range in February, and I was hoping for any pointers that experienced shooters might be able to share with me. I've read a lot of the stuff out there for new shooters, so I'm not going in completely blind. For those of you that shoot competitions regularly, what do you wish you would have known at your first match, for example? My plan is to shoot with my CZ 75, which I believe is SSP in IDPA if that helps at all.
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14 hours ago, Eray said:
I was in the first group of 8 or 10 people to get one in McMinn county. My wife's permit number was 002. Seems like mine was 005. In addition to the handgun safety class, we had to furnish a $50,000 liability insurance police. The sheriff then put in his own regulation that we undergo a psychological evaluation. He still did not issue the permits until we threatened to sue him. After that he gave every police department in the county a list with all of our names on it so they could take extra precautions around us.
That sounds just a wee bit unconstitutional.
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4 hours ago, dawgdoc said:
Sounds like you must have been somewhere like Dekalb County. Outside the Atlanta area, we have more normal times (2 weeks or so in Catoosa).
As a matter of fact, I was in Dekalb County. It was a complete disaster. The fragmented process in Georgia had a lot to do with the fact people didn't want the state to have a database of permit holders/applicants, which is pretty ridiculous.
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I applied for my TN HCP on Monday (completed the HCP class the previous weekend) and got the confirmation that it had been approved on Friday, and that the permit should be to me in 10 days or less. Tennessee certainly isn't perfect, but the state has its act together when it comes to the HCP process. Every aspect of the application process was smooth and painless. To contrast, I waited in long lines for hours to get my permit in Georgia (it took me the better part of 10 hours between the app at the probate court and waiting to be fingerprinted by the police). Once my Georgia app was complete it took my county probate court over 90 days to issue the license to me, and I had to threaten to sue them before they magically found that it was ready to go.
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On 1/24/2017 at 6:54 AM, dawgdoc said:
Although it is true that Georgia does not have a codified sign law like Tennessee, I have seen legal advice that you should not admit to ignoring such a sign because it could be argued that it would be equivalent to ignoring a trespassing notice. So "signs carry weight" is not codified in Georgia law, but there are ways the wrong LEO and DA could charge you as such. Doesn't actually happen a lot, but it is a possibility.
Very good point, and thank you for clarifying that. I certainly didn't mean that you should ignore posted places, just that you aren't necessarily committing an offense under Georgia law if you are carrying and didn't happen to see a sign prohibiting firearms.
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Georgia is pretty simple compared to Tennessee. Government buildings with security checkpoints are off limits, as are all schools. As Dave said above, handgunlaw.us is a good starting point. While it's encouraged to be respectful of no guns signs, they don't carry the weight of law. (Of course I'm not a lawyer, and nothing I say here should be construed as legal advice).
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I got a 42 as a BUG for $359. Too good to pass up.
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4 minutes ago, DaveTN said:
All states do not recognize a Tennessee HCP, but Tennessee recognizes all states carry permits.
So you have six months from the time you establish residence. Without getting into splitting legal hairs the most obvious dates would be:
1. The date your plates or Driver’s license was issued.
2. The date you tell the Officer you established residence.
I got a TN driver's license within a week of moving here, so there's really no question about when my residency was established. I'm actually glad that I procrastinated now since the price of a lifetime license was reduced. Even at $300 for a first time applicant it's still a good deal for me. I'm only 37 and I don't foresee leaving TN in the next 3 years.
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15 minutes ago, DaveTN said:
That's good info, thanks! So I can legally carry with my GA license while waiting for my TN HCP to arrive
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So I moved to TN in October, and while I've changed my DL over to TN I've yet to get a TN HCP. Am I correct in assuming that my Georgia Weapons License is no longer valid since I've established residency here?
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On 8/4/2016 at 2:53 PM, Oh Shoot said:
$300 for newbies. New statute also lowered initial price from $115 to 100.
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I moved to Knoxville from GA in October, and have put off getting my HCP for one reason or another. Now I'm glad that I did! At 37, $300 for a lifetime license is pretty likely worth it for me.
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Add me to the list of folks looking forward to getting my hands on one of these!
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12 minutes ago, gregintenn said:
As long as you don't start wearing orange, welcome to TGO!
Don't worry, I'll always be a dawg!
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1 hour ago, toby1304 said:
Go DAWGS !
Right on!
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Hello everyone,
I'm brand new to the forum, and pretty new to the state. My family and I just moved up to Knoxville from the metro Atlanta area back in October, and we love East Tennessee so far! Work has been too busy for me to set aside time for the concealed carry permit class, but I'm hoping to get that taken care of in the next few weeks. I'm also hoping to try out some IDPA matches pretty soon as well.
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Moving to Georgia? Then Support HB 292!
in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
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This would be really good news if I ever move back, especially since I would likely be moving to one of the metro counties. After my experiences in Dekalb I would likely not head back that way though!